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Here is another story. I believe the ACC will need 8 to disband the conference to get everyone out of the GOR. They need to find homes for 2 more schools.

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FSU, Clemson, and four other ACC schools could join Big 12 in stunning development

The Big 12 could be aggressively making moves to become a true "Power 3" counterpart to the Big Ten and SEC by poaching FSU and Clemson, as well as four other s
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CTFAN4LIFE said:
I believe it becomes 9 needed on August 1st.
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If that's true, I wonder if this includes Notre Dame.

I assume it does.

If so, you have Virginia and Notre Dame to the B1G.

I also assume the B1G wouldn't want to stop there. They'd want UNC as well, which would have to be paired up with another school (Miami, FSU, Duke, Virginia Tech, NC State, etc.)

Regardless, the dissolution would have to happen quickly before August 1st, because otherwise, there is little chance that 9 would leave or that 9 would find as much money outside the ACC.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Here is another story. I believe the ACC will need 8 to disband the conference to get everyone out of the GOR. They need to find homes for 2 more schools.

glorycolorado.com

FSU, Clemson, and four other ACC schools could join Big 12 in stunning development

The Big 12 could be aggressively making moves to become a true "Power 3" counterpart to the Big Ten and SEC by poaching FSU and Clemson, as well as four other s
glorycolorado.com glorycolorado.com
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How messed up is that; in 2 years it's possible that 2 major conferences get blown up into virtual nonexistence, meanwhile the B12, which was on life support after the TexOka defections, comes out as the clear #3 conference (until the P2 take what they want). And as usual, UConn is feeling like this:

Good thing I have the Mets to let me down and divert my attention from CR woes.
 
The ACC members should vote to dissolve with an invitation to the Big 12 in hand. Then the Big 12 invites a couple of others, UConn & USF, although CR#1 would dictate they take the Pac 2. The Big 12 will have 36 members which can be sliced 3 ways with promotion/relegation within the divisions. They can figure out who makes how much and when. Time for the programs to earn their way if they think they are so valuable. Also gives them the option to put football and basketball in different divisions within one conference.

The Big 12 Divisions are:
The Big 12
The Bigger 12
The Biggest 12

B1G 18
SEC 16
 
Kolumbo said:
The ACC members should vote to dissolve with an invitation to the Big 12 in hand. Then the Big 12 invites a couple of others, UConn & USF, although CR#1 would dictate they take the Pac 2. The Big 12 will have 36 members which can be sliced 3 ways with promotion/relegation within the divisions. They can figure out who makes how much and when. Time for the programs to earn their way if they think they are so valuable. Also gives them the option to put football and basketball in different divisions within one conference.

The Big 12 Divisions are:
The Big 12
The Bigger 12
The Biggest 12

B1G 18
SEC 16
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Honestly, I kinda like this idea.
 
At the moment Yormark is sending shots across the bow of the ACC primarily because he can. In and of itself it will accomplish little beyond some press during a summer lull.

I would be amazed if members of the ACC call an expedited vote (to be the August 1 additions to the conference) and I sero=iously doubt that there would be enough votes to dissolve the conference either way. There are schools that know they won't have a home close to equal to the current ACC and there are schools who really aren't sure if they would find a landing spot. We can project all we want about what a 24 member B-12 would look like but at some point well before 24, there diminshing returns of added content would make it a net loss per B-12 school to add the last few ACC members needed to destroy that conference.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
At the moment Yormark is sending shots across the bow of the ACC primarily because he can. In and of itself it will accomplish little beyond some press during a summer lull.

I would be amazed if members of the ACC call an expedited vote (to be the August 1 additions to the conference) and I sero=iously doubt that there would be enough votes to dissolve the conference either way. There are schools that know they won't have a home close to equal to the current ACC and there are schools who really aren't sure if they would find a landing spot. We can project all we want about what a 24 member B-12 would look like but at some point well before 24, there diminshing returns of added content would make it a net loss per B-12 school to add the last few ACC members needed to destroy that conference.
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Is it a net loss if The Big12 removes the only competition for the #3 spot? If they effectively end the ACC, they will stand alone at #3 and no one else is even close. The diminishing returns might not be so the next contract renegotiation. By giving Colorado their “signing bonus” to move before the media deal was presented, they have already succeeded in eliminating the PAC. I’m pretty sure they would do the same to the ACC. An ACC with Duke, Cuse, BC, WF, GT and Pitt is not a threat to the Big12 for football. Think about the renewed interest in UConn. Preemptively taking the one program that could replace UNC in basketball clout. It seems Yormark is playing 3D chess while the PAC and now ACC is playing Go Fish.
 
dayooper said:
Is it a net loss if The Big12 removes the only competition for the #3 spot? If they effectively end the ACC, they will stand alone at #3 and no one else is even close. The diminishing returns might not be so the next contract renegotiation. By giving Colorado their “signing bonus” to move before the media deal was presented, they have already succeeded in eliminating the PAC. I’m pretty sure they would do the same to the ACC. An ACC with Duke, Cuse, BC, WF, GT and Pitt is not a threat to the Big12 for football. Think about the renewed interest in UConn. Preemptively taking the one program that could replace UNC in basketball clout. It seems Yormark is playing 3D chess while the PAC and now ACC is playing Go Fish.
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It was $2m signing bonus.

We're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars here.
 
A lot of "stuff" going on...disinformation by click baiters..

And some maybe deliberate....

Psychological operations (PSYOP) are operations to convey selected information and indicators to audiences to influence their motives and objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of governments, organizations, groups, and large foreign powers.

I give Yormark and Sankey credit for being the two best Commissioners at furthering their conference's interests....Yormark is determined to position the Big 12 favorably.

In contrast, Phillips at the ACC has been in a desperation mode...

Phillips savings right now has been that North Carolina politics is discouraging potential conferences while the NC BOT dither around in UNC's ability to leave the ACC...The ACC accounts for $100s of millions to the state according to insiders (taxes, visitors to championships, etc). The NC BOT, supposedly is looking out for the "state system of colleges". The guys on Western Mounatin Youtube said that if FSU-Clemson left, they had heard from their sauce there would be a push to replace with App State-ECU . cue emoji for eyes rolling.
 
Blades said:
It never ends from these guys....WTF is this about ???? and why would Cincy, SMH !

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By sources, does that mean it's some jobless college kid posting something on TikTok, maybe somebody Kobe ticked off?
 
dayooper said:
Is it a net loss if The Big12 removes the only competition for the #3 spot? If they effectively end the ACC, they will stand alone at #3 and no one else is even close. The diminishing returns might not be so the next contract renegotiation. By giving Colorado their “signing bonus” to move before the media deal was presented, they have already succeeded in eliminating the PAC. I’m pretty sure they would do the same to the ACC. An ACC with Duke, Cuse, BC, WF, GT and Pitt is not a threat to the Big12 for football. Think about the renewed interest in UConn. Preemptively taking the one program that could replace UNC in basketball clout. It seems Yormark is playing 3D chess while the PAC and now ACC is playing Go Fish.
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Agree. At least Yormark recognizes that BB is undervalued & the sees the value of adding one of the top BB brands & expanding into the northeast. We’re hearing more about P2’s interest in NC & Kansas.

And yet despite all the noise about the ACC’s best BB brands being coveted by the P2 & B12, the ACC isn’t proactive enough to try to lure Uconn & take the top available brand off the board for the B12. They really deserve to go down like the PAC did.

The B12’s basketball reputation is also at risk if Kansas is lured away by one of the P2.
 
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ZooCougar said:
There is actually some truth behind it as far as I know.

I’m not saying it will result in anything.
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The only way a rumor to be true is for it to happen???

Unless you are saying it's true there is a rumor without attaching any truth to the content of the rumor.
 
ZooCougar said:
There is actually some truth behind it as far as I know.

I’m not saying it will result in anything.
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Lol you are killing me. What does this mean? Does it mean that you're aware, at some level, that there have been actual recent discussions regarding Connecticut joining the big 12? Does it mean that 1 of the towel guys at your local car wash mumbled something about Huskies will be a great big 12 team and then winked as you as he was drying your rims? What? What was it?
Matt Smith Talk GIF by Doctor Who
 
Kowalski said:
Agree. At least Yormark recognizes that BB is undervalued & the sees the value of adding one of the top BB brands & expanding into the northeast. We’re hearing more about P2’s interest in NC & Kansas.

And yet despite all the noise about the ACC’s best BB brands being coveted by the P2 & B12, the ACC isn’t proactive enough to try to lure Uconn & take the top available brand off the board for the B12. They really deserve to go down like the PAC did.

The B12’s basketball reputation is also at risk if Kansas is lured away by one of the P2.
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I wouldn't count on Yormark to throw out a life raft...or ESPN for that matter. DeFillipo was right about ESPN pulling all the strings.
 
CL82 said:
Lol you are killing me. What does this mean? Does it mean that you're aware, at some level, that there have been actual recent discussions regarding Connecticut joining the big 12? Does it mean that 1 of the towel guys at your local car wash mumbled something about Huskies will be a great big 12 team and then winked as you as he was drying your rims? What? What was it?
Matt Smith Talk GIF by Doctor Who
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I means what it means.

Plus there was a Ross Dellenger article the other day that is highly credible.
 
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