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kcc1442 said:
Your reaction is worse. All he is saying is that Sanogo was open and hitting and he wanted him to continue to have confidence and knock down shots he had already made. He feels that could have altered the game and opened up other options by doing so. All he is trying to do is instill confidence in his player. He saying he believes in him and wants him to continue to shoot those. Were there other problems on offense? For sure. He's not blaming the game on him. Relax.

True number 1 players understand that they can be critiqued even when they were the best player on the court for their team.
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I’m pretty relaxed my man. As I said, it’s a dumb thing to say. Adama took 7 threes and Danny wanted 10. Saying we probably would’ve won if he did. If he misses the extra 3s its a whole different story. Coaches shouldn’t cast blame like this, especially when Adama was our most effective player by far.
 
jpeakin said:
He equaled his season avg in points and was above his 3 pt%. So how is Hurley right to say it was his fault? You're really relying on your 5 to be draining 3's all day? Seems like he did more than his share of the work today.
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Why does everyone think Hurley is blaming Sanogo for the loss? Cripes y'all are programmed by cable news.

Hurley said he'd hoped AS would've taken 2-4 more shots from deep. That's not blaming him for the loss. There's no guarantee he makes any of them anyway. Maybe it gets Kalk away from the hoop and opens up other options. Whatever, y'all have lost your minds.
 
navery12 said:
I'm just saying watch the full flip from 4:10 all the way through 5:10 when they move on to the next subject. The reporter asks him about Sanogo developing a 3 point shot. The part you quoted you can see some frustration in his face, but with the full quote by the end he's talking about how great Sanogo is and how he developed that part of his game so fast. It doesn't remotely come across as blame
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Not flat out blaming him (blame wasn't his intention with what he said) for the loss but he thinks Sanogo taking more threes than he did is the way we win that game.

Sanogo shot 7 threes today, he shot 5 threes total in his last 8 games and our coach thinks we need 10 three point attempts out of him to beat Creighton. That says a lot about his coaching/strategy that he thinks that's the way we were walking out of there with a win and he's so comfortable with that he says it publicly.
 
This is exactly why other coaches ain’t scared of UConn. They know whose running the game plan for them.

Ideal situation for the opposition in every facet.
 
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superjohn said:
Not flat out blaming him (blame wasn't his intention with what he said) for the loss but he thinks Sanogo taking more threes than he did is the way we win that game.

Sanogo shot 7 threes today, he shot 5 threes total in his last 8 games and our coach thinks we need 10 three point attempts out of him to beat Creighton. That says a lot about his coaching/strategy that he thinks that's the way we were walking out of there with a win and he's so comfortable with that he says it publicly.
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That's a reasonable take, and I don't completely disagree. I guess my only caveat would be that I don't think we should ever be going into a game with the plan of Sanogo taking 10 3's or really any 3's, or even running the offense through Sanogo. But given what was happening in game, I don't think Sanogo taking more 3's would have hurt. Obviously it's on Hurley to figure out a plan to not need Sanogo 3's for when we meet in the BET
 
jpeakin said:
From Foxsports.com...

Speaking about Sanogo:

"I’m mad at him a little bit right now," UConn coach Dan Hurley said. "I thought he should have shot two or four more 3s in the second half. For us to win that game, I almost felt like at half he was going to have to make another 3 or two."

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I simply cannot even fathom that this is the reason Hurley thinks we lost the game. Im done.
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I think Hurley being mad at Sanogo here is a bit tongue in cheek. I don't think he's really mad at him; maybe a little disappointed is more like it. I do agree that Sanogo was making 3's in the 1st half, and no one else was, so yeah, he should have/could have shot more in the 2nd half and maybe made some. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanogo said he wishes he did as well.
 
jpeakin said:
From Foxsports.com...

Speaking about Sanogo:

"I’m mad at him a little bit right now," UConn coach Dan Hurley said. "I thought he should have shot two or four more 3s in the second half. For us to win that game, I almost felt like at half he was going to have to make another 3 or two."

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I simply cannot even fathom that this is the reason Hurley thinks we lost the game. Im done.
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Danny is proving to be an utter moron. How about AJ? Maybe getting a 5th O player on the court that is guarded might help? What a frigging clown.
 
Coach J said:
How about someone teach Jackson to take two dribbles and a pull-up jump shot, and we won't have to worry about Sanogo taking 9 threes a game.
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That would be great and I love Andre's attitude and enthusiasm. But right now he can't shoot and the other team barely bothers to put a man near him. The correct answer is replace him with a player who's a better defender, gets more rebounds, and has a better shot from anywhere on the court than he does. That happens to be Donovan Clingan. We scored 53 points today and that's an unacceptable result especially when you have better options.
 
giddyup said:
Danny is proving to be an utter moron. How about AJ? Maybe getting a 5th O player on the court that is guarded might help? What a frigging clown.
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Like Alleyne who went 1-6 or Calcaterra who went 0-2? As much as I defend Andre, I’d be okay with him getting fewer minutes but unless they slotted Karaban down to the 3 and played either Johnson or Clingan up front, there aren’t better overall options than Andre.
 
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Huskyforlife said:
I love the idea that someone was sold on Hurley, but then heard him say “I wish Sanogo shot more,” and concluded now he’s a terrible coach.

I can’t believe this place is free.
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I don't know what you meant by the sentence, "I can't believe this place is free."

I offer no criticism of it, nor can I agree with it. I'd appreciate an explanation, but I don't mind you ignore or decline doing so. I find it quite easy to accept my uncertainty because the sentence did no more than rhetorically state your belief.

By contrast, if you'd said, "This place is unbelievable," I might be tempted to evaluate the sentence and offer my agreement or disagreement with something you'd have rhetorically offered as though it were true for all people rather than simply you.

I will not bother to count, but I feel comfortable offering that this thread has 10 or more posts that either:

jump to an unsupportable conclusion that applies beyond the poster's individual opinion or emotion;

substitute stronger phrasing than can be accurately quoted;

quote and build from such too-strong words; or

otherwise resemble a post-dinner table game of "telephone" in which the final person repeats what was whispered into threir ear by the person sitting next them.

The result is often laughably different from what was whispered by the first person into the second person's
ear.

Dan Hurley was asked by a reporter to talk about Adama Sanogo's 3-point shooting, and he said, "I'm a little mad..."

If I were challenged to close my post with language that would prove my point in the paragraph about "telephone" above by expressing myself similarly, I'd say, "It's absolutely insane that people do this."

I hold a high exaggeration in low regard, but I have no standing to call it "absolutely insane." That would be an attempt to control the uncontrollable.
 
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Coach J said:
How about someone teach Jackson to take two dribbles and a pull-up jump shot, and we won't have to worry about Sanogo taking 9 threes a game.
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Love AJ, but I can’t fathom how he can’t/won’t do that. I learned that when I was 7 years old
 
He blamed lack of converting offensive rebounds more than anything but that is just baffling. He said what he said regarding Adama in the context of drawing Kalkbrenner out… and that’s actually what happened. He went up for a fake, someone closed on him, and then he would try to make a play. Then he says Adama passed up on a couple that were in rhythm. Confusing.

Odd quote “Creighton does a great job of not fouling”. Our stark FT differences is not just some Creighton thing; it’s been a trend all conference season.
 
I mean, Danny is right? Sanogo pumped on at least 2 threes in the second half and tried to then drive into the lane where he got doubled and had to pass out to “reset the offense.”

But, Alleyne hitting the rim, or Jordan/AK getting up more shots would have been beneficial too.

4 on 5 offense is tough man.

This is the purest example of a game where you need 4 out 1 in offensive style of play. Jackson cratered that efficiency today. It affected Sanogo AK and Newton dramatically.
 
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My biggest issue with what Dan Hurley said was the phrase "for us to win that game"...

No coach, there were MANY other things that could have been done "for us to win that game".
Maybe it was the heat of the moment or too soon after the loss, but those were not wise words.

You don't say stuff like that about your team's leading scorer by who all accounts, has an above average game while the rest of the team underperformed.
 
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superjohn said:
Not flat out blaming him (blame wasn't his intention with what he said) for the loss but he thinks Sanogo taking more threes than he did is the way we win that game.

Sanogo shot 7 threes today, he shot 5 threes total in his last 8 games and our coach thinks we need 10 three point attempts out of him to beat Creighton. That says a lot about his coaching/strategy that he thinks that's the way we were walking out of there with a win and he's so comfortable with that he says it publicly.
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Somebody might want to point out to Hurley that the reason Sanogo would need to take more 3s is because he kept Jackson floor much too long in the 2nd half. I know he wanted Kalkbrenner out of the paint so Newton or Hawk could drive, but they didn’t, mostly because even then Jackson’s defender was a straight help defender in the paint.

There’s one reason we lost and Hurley looks at it in the mirror. Yes, the guys needed to be better, but he hamstrung them.
 
superjohn said:
Not flat out blaming him (blame wasn't his intention with what he said) for the loss but he thinks Sanogo taking more threes than he did is the way we win that game.

Sanogo shot 7 threes today, he shot 5 threes total in his last 8 games and our coach thinks we need 10 three point attempts out of him to beat Creighton. That says a lot about his coaching/strategy that he thinks that's the way we were walking out of there with a win and he's so comfortable with that he says it publicly.
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Seems pretty clear to me that Danny is a coach who believes in letting his players shoot shots they think they can make and tries to give them the confidence to do it. Obviously that has hurt us at times this season (Andre in the Xavier game, and every other time he has taken 10 shots) but I don't think it's necessarily wrong to encourage guys to shoot when they get open looks. I think it's part of the reason that Hawk is such a willing shooter even on the nights where the efficiency isn't there.

Sanogo is shooting 40% from three over the course of the season, if they're going to sag off of him and give him space to get a good look in rhythm, that's turning into a good thing for us. I agree I don't necessarily want him shooting 10 a game though
 
tentoes4rings said:
Like Alleyne who went 1-6 or Calcaterra who went 0-2? As much as I defend Andre, I’d be okay with him getting fewer minutes but unless they slotted Karaban down to the 3 and played either Johnson or Clingan up front, there aren’t better overall options than Andre.
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But that’s the point….. there are better options, play DC more than AJ and you win more games , it’s that simple. He out rebounds him, out defends him ( blocks or alters shots), out scores him, requires one and sometimes two players to guard him freeing up the other talented offensive players to do their thing offensively. When they doubled DC they were playing 3 on 4 defensively against the rest of the team vs 5 on 4 when Jackson is in there. It’s not complicated and it shouldn’t be for our 4 million dollar a year coach but it is apparently over his head. He not putting the team in the best possible position to win games. I played at South Catholic high in Hartford under the legendary coach Joe Reilly and our assistant coaches were Gary Palladino ( U of H) and Dom Perno ( UConn ) and any of the 3 including Perno we’re better in game coaches than Hurley. They did more with less consistently because of game prep and in game adjustments. We played Calvin Murphy in a tournament game, and they played every defense possible, man to man, various zones, double teams , help defense and box and one and box and two. They didn’t keep playing a style that didn’t work, they strategized every possible defense to slow him down including slowing the pace to limit possessions ( no shot clock ). The goal is to win the game not be stubborn or egotistical or a lunatic madman unwilling to make changes until it’s too late.
 
Agree with Danny- my tweet from in game yesterday:



Pick and pop was generating our best looks (outside of AJ). Kalks close outs were not hard enough to warrant Adama’s pump and gos. He had the space to shoot and should have.

We had the right line up to win. Creighton scored twice from the field in the last 12 min of the game.

All game long they struggled to get into their offense. If it wasn’t for Trey Alexander hitting 3 really tough contested shots for 8 pts, we win this in a walk. Give me those guys on Friday in msg.
 
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He's not really mad.

He said it in the presser. He could have have said I wish he shot another couple of threes. Don't make "mad" mean anything it doesn't. He also explained why he said it. He felt it would have drawn Creighton out to the line and opened up the middle more.

Hurley was actually giving Sanogo a compliment. He was saying Sanogo picks things up so fast he is becoming a three point threat and that he wants him to be even more confident with his shooting.

But this was an excellent bit of trolling by the OP.
 
UConniki said:
But that’s the point….. there are better options, play DC more than AJ and you win more games , it’s that simple. He out rebounds him, out defends him ( blocks or alters shots), out scores him, requires one and sometimes two players to guard him freeing up the other talented offensive players to do their thing offensively. When they doubled DC they were playing 3 on 4 defensively against the rest of the team vs 5 on 4 when Jackson is in there. It’s not complicated and it shouldn’t be for our 4 million dollar a year coach but it is apparently over his head. He not putting the team in the best possible position to win games. I played at South Catholic high in Hartford under the legendary coach Joe Reilly and our assistant coaches were Gary Palladino ( U of H) and Dom Perno ( UConn ) and any of the 3 including Perno we’re better in game coaches than Hurley. They did more with less consistently because of game prep and in game adjustments. We played Calvin Murphy in a tournament game, and they played every defense possible, man to man, various zones, double teams , help defense and box and one and box and two. They didn’t keep playing a style that didn’t work, they strategized every possible defense to slow him down including slowing the pace to limit possessions ( no shot clock ). The goal is to win the game not be stubborn or egotistical or a lunatic madman unwilling to make changes until it’s too late.
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Appreciate your comments but have to disagree with the “it’s as simple as that” comment. What about matchups? So you are saying that you play Clingan at SF with Sanogo over Jackson against a team that is playing one big? In a scenario when Clingan would be guarding a guy 6’6” SF who can step out and hit a three and also drive to the basket? Coaching is never that simple…..I did not play college basketball but have coached many years. With Jackson, you have to weigh what he gives you as far as his defense, his ball handling, energy and leadership and on the other side his limitations on offense….not “that simple” when being a coach.
 
Palatine said:
He's not really mad.

He said it in the presser. He could have have said I wish he shot another couple of threes. Don't make "mad" mean anything it doesn't. He also explained why he said it. He felt it would have drawn Creighton out to the line and opened up the middle more.

Hurley was actually giving Sanogo a compliment. He was saying Sanogo picks things up so fast he is becoming a three point threat and that he wants him to be even more confident with his shooting.

But this was an excellent bit of trolling by the OP
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I get where he was going with it but how about for once he just take a little blame on himself? I wouldn't care if we lost to Creighton because they were better than us, but it's the way we go about losing.

I would say that while I've sometimes questioned his in game coaching, I've never been in the fire Hurley camp. I've been rooting for UCONN since the 80's. My son is in school there now. Doesnt matter who was coaching, JC, KO or Dan Hurley, all I want is to see them win.

Sorry you were offended by my take on the quote and the opinion I offered but I can assure you the last thing I was doing was trolling. Apparently many others get where I was going with it.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Somebody might want to point out to Hurley that the reason Sanogo would need to take more 3s is because he kept Jackson floor much too long in the 2nd half. I know he wanted Kalkbrenner out of the paint so Newton or Hawk could drive, but they didn’t, mostly because even then Jackson’s defender was a straight help defender in the paint.

There’s one reason we lost and Hurley looks at it in the mirror. Yes, the guys needed to be better, but he hamstrung them.
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Yep. The scary thing is Hurley also said he wanted Jackson taking more "rythm" threes that he was turning down. We have issues at the top.
 
Devil’s advocate…

While there were many other ways to win the game much easier than Sanogo launching more threes, he made the most threes in the game and shot the highest percentage other than Trey’s 2-3 and Diarra’s 1-1

shrug
 
He’s shooting 40% from 3, if he’s getting open looks, like he was yesterday he should be taking them. There was several he did pass up on. The context of the quote was answering a question about Adama improving so much from 3 and he responded by saying yea he’s improved so much he should take even more. In yesterdays game absolutely right.
 
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