NFL Offseason - Teams other than the Northeast Three

[Husky25]

Because the NFL is a coast-to-coast league, the calendar is year round, and folks are fans of teams outside their local region, it might be helpful to have a central repository instead of hijacking the Patriots, Giants, or Jets threads from time to time.

 

[Husky25]

I'll start with Washington.

They've traded for Deebo Samuel and only gave up a 5th. Then traded for Laremy Tunsil for a legit rock at Left Tackle. I thought they gave up too much (2 2025 picks and 2 2026 picks, including a 2nd rounder), but this one trade solidifies two positions along the OL, because it frees up 2024 3rd rounder DitR, Brandon Coleman, from playing out of position. I'm also feeling a little better after listening to Logan Paulsen, who feels that Adam Peters can compile draft capital through other means.

Besides their own (Bates, Wagner, Ertz so far), the first FA signed was Javon Kinlaw, DL. Big body who did not work out for the Jets. He will be a rotational piece along with Payne, Newton, Baptiste, and whoever they pick up in the Draft.

Washington lost Cornelius Lucas, swing tackle, to the Browns for $10M. Short money for a quality piece, but I think playing time was a significant factor in him leaving.

Safety Jeremey Chinn's name seemed to always be in the game recaps last year, and it wasn't for negative reasons. He went to Las Vegas for double the money/year he made last season, but half the money LV was paying the guy he is replacing. Tough to see him go, but Washington's defense, particularly against the run, was not good enough to run it back with the same personnel. Logan Paulsen seems to think Chinn is replaceable.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I'll start with Washington.

They've traded for Deebo Samuel and only gave up a 5th. Then traded for Laremy Tunsil for a legit rock at Left Tackle. I thought they gave up too much (2 2025 picks and 2 2026 picks, including a 2nd rounder), but this one trade solidifies two positions along the OL, because it frees up 2024 3rd rounder DitR, Brandon Coleman, from playing out of position. I'm also feeling a little better after listening to Logan Paulsen, who feels that Adam Peters can compile draft capital through other means.

Besides their own (Bates, Wagner, Ertz so far), the first FA signed was Javon Kinlaw, DL. Big body who did not work out for the Jets. He will be a rotational piece along with Payne, Newton, Baptiste, and whoever they pick up in the Draft.

Washington lost Cornelius Lucas, swing tackle, to the Browns for $10M. Short money for a quality piece, but I think playing time was a significant factor in him leaving.

Safety Jeremey Chinn's name seemed to always be in the game recaps last year, and it wasn't for negative reasons. He went to Las Vegas for double the money/year he made last season, but half the money LV was paying the guy he is replacing. Tough to see him go, but Washington's defense, particularly against the run, was not good enough to run it back with the same personnel. Logan Paulsen seems to think Chinn is replaceable.

My sense with Washington is urgency. They need to catch the Eagles. They filled some holes and should be very good. But I think deals like the Tunsil trade will shorten their window. I understand they need to do it while they have Daniels on a rookie contract.

 

[Deepster]

2 teams that have been surprisingly quiet.

1) Kansas City. The only news of note has been backup type bench strength guys. Kelce's tank is just about empty and Worthy just made headlines for the wrong reasons. Hopkins signed in Baltimore. They've gotten away with piecemealing parts together and being very successful, but I feel like the league is catching up to them and they need to get some real talent.

2) Dallas. What are they doing? They dropped the bag of money on Dak and Ceedee and now for the 2nd straight year have been quiet in FA to surround them with anything. Oh and the Eagles and Redskins are now noticeably ahead of them in talent and future. And there's no way Jerry ever will do a rebuild at his age. It feels to me like now would have been the time to make a huge FA spending spree and focus hard for something in the next 2 years. Jerry is 82 right now.

 

[HuskyHawk]

2 teams that have been surprisingly quiet.

1) Kansas City. The only news of note has been backup type bench strength guys. Kelce's tank is just about empty and Worthy just made headlines for the wrong reasons. Hopkins signed in Baltimore. They've gotten away with piecemealing parts together and being very successful, but I feel like the league is catching up to them and they need to get some real talent.

2) Dallas. What are they doing? They dropped the bag of money on Dak and Ceedee and now for the 2nd straight year have been quiet in FA to surround them with anything. Oh and the Eagles and Redskins are now noticeably ahead of them in talent and future. And there's no way Jerry ever will do a rebuild at his age. It feels to me like now would have been the time to make a huge FA spending spree and focus hard for something in the next 2 years. Jerry is 82 right now.

Dallas is a disaster. Every instinct they have is wrong. They are messing it up with Parsons.

Chiefs landed the best guard on the market, even if it was their own guy. They got a new starting left tackle after having to use LG Thuney there last year. I suspect that last year's rookie LT will shift to LG and take Thuney's old spot. Fulton brought in a CB opposite McDuffie. Mahomes just restructured so they now have some space to do more. But teams like this are supposed to lose talent.

Bengals are the Cowboys of the AFC. Could have extended Chase and waited, now it will cost them. Same with Tee. Same with Hendrickson. They may now lose two of them and not get much back. Higgins should have been traded. Teams trying to carry two high $ WRs are doomed. Keep one, fill with rookie contract guys and cheap vets.

 

[Deepster]

Dallas is a disaster. Every instinct they have is wrong. They are messing it up with Parsons.

Chiefs landed the best guard on the market, even if it was their own guy. They got a new starting left tackle after having to use LG Thuney there last year. I suspect that last year's rookie LT will shift to LG and take Thuney's old spot. Fulton brought in a CB opposite McDuffie. Mahomes just restructured so they now have some space to do more. But teams like this are supposed to lose talent.

Bengals are the Cowboys of the AFC. Could have extended Chase and waited, now it will cost them. Same with Tee. Same with Hendrickson. They may now lose two of them and not get much back. Higgins should have been traded. Teams trying to carry two high $ WRs are doomed. Keep one, fill with rookie contract guys and cheap vets.

The Metcalf contract really screwed the Bengals. I’d take both Higgins and Chase over Metcalf right now.

 

[HuskyHawk]

The Metcalf contract really screwed the Bengals. I’d take both Higgins and Chase over Metcalf right now.

The Bengals screwed the Bengals. They could have extended Chase a year ago for much less. The whole attempt to keep Higgins was misguided. Should have traded him for picks, drafted a WR last year in an epic WR draft and they'd be in good shape now. Should have extended Hendrickson too, but now Crosby's new deal inflated that cost as well. Just a badly run organization. They thought they were on the cusp of a Super Bowl and kicked the can down the road.

In the smart team category, the 49ers are trending up. If they can move Aiyuk for a 2nd they will be in a really good position to quickly revamp the team. Sometimes you just have to admit that the window is closed for a year or so.

 

[Husky25]

My sense with Washington is urgency. They need to catch the Eagles. They filled some holes and should be very good. But I think deals like the Tunsil trade will shorten their window. I understand they need to do it while they have Daniels on a rookie contract.

I don't think that is the case just yet. Albeit being among the teams with the least number of 2025 players signed, Washington had the 3rd highest amount of cap room entering free agency, a position that affords them a mistake or two.

Needs entering Free Agency were OL, DL (incl. Edge), LB, CB, WR. They've addressed OL (steep price pick-wise, but trading for Tunsil addresses two front five positions). and DL (Detrick Wise and Kinlaw), CB (Jonathan Jones), and WR to an extent. Samuels was a good pick-up for the cost, but is also not a traditional #2. Dyami Brown earned a larger contract with his late season play, but at $10M not with Washington. They could bring back Noah Brown and have Luke McCaffrey waiting in the wings, but WR2 is still up in the air.

Losing Chinn created a need at safety, so they brought in Will Harris pretty quick after Chinn walked. Washington also has young safeties ready to fill the rotation.

FA is not over by any extent, Washington only has 5 picks (of which are in the top 100, and still have needs at Edge, WR, LB (Neither Wagner, nor Luvu are getting younger), and OL (can never have too many), They make moves to get more late round picks, in which case a RB flyer could be in the works. They re-signed 3rdD Rodriguez, and McNichol, but 4th year Robinson is rumored to be on the chopping block and an aging, injury-prone Eckler is no longer an every down back.).

 

[Deepster]

Well. Looks like Cincy is going to try and win their way 48-45 every week. Not sure they can win their division with the Ravens there but I will sure be betting lots of Overs for the Bengals this season.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Well. Looks like Cincy is going to try and win their way 48-45 every week. Not sure they can win their division with the Ravens there but I will sure be betting lots of Overs for the Bengals this season.

Good luck with that model. They don't even have a good offensive line. Or RBs or Tight Ends. Teams need to know when to turn an asset into picks and Tee last year was that time.