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That seems problematic to me.
Yes it's a major issue. It's one thing to get fined by the town, it's another to have to go in front of an arbitrator or honor board and beg they don't suspend you because you were just trying to throw a party.

Suzie caved to the townies like @Stainmaster because she wanted to get buildings put up. She basically gave them whatever they wanted with no care for the students.
 

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Yes it's a major issue. It's one thing to get fined by the town, it's another to have to go in front of an arbitrator or honor board and beg they don't suspend you because you were just trying to throw a party.

Suzie caved to the townies like @Stainmaster because she wanted to get buildings put up. She basically gave them whatever they wanted with no care for the students.
I knew it was @Stainmaster's fault. It always is.
 
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Hunting Lodge Rd got shut down, too.
That road brings back a memory. My uncle once owned some land on Hunting Lodge (back in the late 79’s-early 80’s) on which he planned to build some off campus apartments for students. Problem was he needed a sewer permit. It was not easy to obtain. One night he got a call saying he could have it for $50,000! His answer was a tougher equivalent of “no way”. He never got the permit. The land laid dormant until after he died. Not sure what happened after that.
 

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Some of the rules prohibit what is already not allowed in the Rentschler General Population. So the e-mail could have just been a "friendly" (Should have been friendlier in tone) reminder.

I'm wondering how they can enforce it, without ges.ta.po tactics.

- Hard liquor has been mixed with and in juice, water, or soda bottles for eons.

- Kegs are not allowed in the General Population at Rentschler. It is a general violation.

- The third bullet looks to be aimed at common source punch bowls of sorts. At floor parties in the late 90's we used a trashbag lined 25 gallon Rubbermade container.

- The 4th bullet seems to be aimed at floats. Other than a shelf coming out a trailer hitch, I do not recall trailers being allowed in General Population.

The final 3 seems like overreach.

- The no standing in or on truck beds seems to be a bit of overkill. That's what they are for.

- I guess the no glass rule is to prevent it from being used as weapons in a potential fight, but also a popped tire can ruin a person's night.

- No Pets? Is this really a problem? Are pets allowed in school or the dorms (because they weren't when I was there)? A guy on the floor below me housed a ferret in his room, but was in direct violation of Housing and he knew it. I knew a few people who had fish as well.

On the other hand, what if someone needs a trained personal service dog (not emotional support. Actual service animal)? I believe it is illegal to substantially interfere with service animals.
 
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Oh I said on twitter this is 100% litigation management and nothing more. It just a shame because this country is really becoming an absolute tedious nanny state bore. I have been doing some international travel lately and it’s interesting and really refreshing to see other 1st world nations still believe in personal responsibility. I’d long those countries and short us. We are spending an inordinate amount of resources in this country (ie waste) on belt and suspenders non sense and paper to insulate from a casino style legal system. It’s a big drag on the economy and it’s making us dumber.
I have been out of the usa for going on five years now. I miss some things but this post makes a lot of sense too.

Btw, I assume by "first world" you mean Europe/ have been to Europe? Because I have to agree with this. I would say the ideal country (though no place is perfect of course) would be Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Netherlands or parts of France. Maybe Finland, especially for the education which is tops in the world or way out there in New Zealand. Perhaps even Ireland but that is more of a stretch (gorgeous place though). Many of those countries have crazy cost of living, of course but with a local salary that would be remedied and even considering some problems still existing, they just have the best quality of life for me. I have been to most of those aforementioned countries and just in general felt more....Not sure how else to put it, free in my day to day life. But even in other countries in Asia and Latin America I have noticed some of what you say, believe it or not. Less of a hassle for some of these types of things.

Any way, I digress too much. The rules seem like a joy kill/buzz kill, for sure. I think students are creative, they will find a way to have fun. I remember, especially as an 18-20 year old, my friends and I and, well, tons of UNI students always liked finding ways to "stick it to the man" a little (or a lot for some students) and I don't think much has changed since I attended UNI. In other words, I think these current students will find their way to enjoy tailgating too...Or I can hope for the long term sake of the (popularity of the) fball team.
 
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Soooo...love me some UConn football....love a tailgate and more than a few beers. I’m an adult now, I like to think I’m responsible. Been a college kid, remember not being responsible but was always respectful....

That being said...

I also worked EMS...I’ve worked hundreds of large scale events from concerts, to fairs to football games. I’ve taken dozens of highly intoxicated patients into the ED who have been so drunk they’ve bought a tube! (Intubated) I’ve had to deal with hundreds of drunk balloon knot kids who can’t handle there booze....spit on, punched, kicked and puked on. I’ve seen young girls passed out drunk that have been sexually assaulted by other drunk balloon knot guys!

I don’t think it’s asking a lot to say....hey kids stick to beer and wine! Help keep it in check a little bit....have your fun but be responsible! We all know that most of these kids go without even intending on going into the game anyway! Is it that big of a deal!? They didn’t close the student lot...
 

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I have been out of the usa for going on five years now. I miss some things but this post makes a lot of sense too.

Btw, I assume by "first world" you mean Europe/ have been to Europe? Because I have to agree with this. I would say the ideal country (though no place is perfect of course) would be Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Netherlands or parts of France. Maybe Finland, especially for the education which is tops in the world or way out there in New Zealand. Perhaps even Ireland but that is more of a stretch (gorgeous place though). Many of those countries have crazy cost of living, of course but with a local salary that would be remedied and even considering some problems still existing, they just have the best quality of life for me. I have been to most of those aforementioned countries and just in general felt more....Not sure how else to put it, free in my day to day life. But even in other countries in Asia and Latin America I have noticed some of what you say, believe it or not. Less of a hassle for some of these types of things.

Any way, I digress too much. The rules seem like a joy kill/buzz kill, for sure. I think students are creative, they will find a way to have fun. I remember, especially as an 18-20 year old, my friends and I and, well, tons of UNI students always liked finding ways to "stick it to the man" a little (or a lot for some students) and I don't think much has changed since I attended UNI. In other words, I think these current students will find their way to enjoy tailgating too...Or I can hope for the long term sake of the (popularity of the) fball team.

Yes, I am referring to many of the countries you are referring too in Europe. My observation is that say whatever you want about politics, at a basic level personal responsibility (ie don't fall off that cliff/ladder/sidewalk into the ocean/ground/on coming bus) is where it should be, on you to not be an idiot. We keep moving the goal posts towards zero responsibility.
 
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Oh I said on twitter this is 100% litigation management and nothing more. It just a shame because this country is really becoming an absolute tedious nanny state bore. I have been doing some international travel lately and it’s interesting and really refreshing to see other 1st world nations still believe in personal responsibility. I’d long those countries and short us. We are spending an inordinate amount of resources in this country (ie waste) on belt and suspenders non sense and paper to insulate from a casino style legal system. It’s a big drag on the economy and it’s making us dumber.

I mostly agree. As to the rules, it's not really very different than the rules that apply at many concerts and pro events. The risk of a head injury from a drunk person taking a dive from a truck bed is real.

Lawsuit, Underage Drinking Test Liability Of Kraft, Gillette Stadium
 

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I mostly agree. As to the rules, it's not really very different than the rules that apply at many concerts and pro events. The risk of a head injury from a drunk person taking a dive from a truck bed is real.

Lawsuit, Underage Drinking Test Liability Of Kraft, Gillette Stadium
I have a completely different POV regarding the case you linked.

As for dives off objects, its simple - no diving...but dont be so ridiculous to tell me I can't walk the back of my flatbed pick up. That's ridiculous. Diving = bad, walking back of pick up = my business.
 
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There is no hard liquor at the Rent? Really? Another reason I guess why I never park there. Love a bloody mary at brunch before a noon or early afternoon game. Am I gonna bring them premixed? Hell no. No one ever stopped you at the Aircraft Club.
 
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There is no hard liquor at the Rent? Really? Another reason I guess why I never park there. Love a bloody mary at brunch before a noon or early afternoon game. Am I gonna bring them premixed? Hell no. No one ever stopped you at the Aircraft Club.
This is just for the student lot, I believe.
 

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There is no hard liquor at the Rent? Really? Another reason I guess why I never park there. Love a bloody mary at brunch before a noon or early afternoon game. Am I gonna bring them premixed? Hell no. No one ever stopped you at the Aircraft Club.
I think it is just in the student lot. I don't drink a lot of beer anymore, but beyond the late morning whisky (or whiskey, depending on the style), I've had either a bloody or a screwdriver before almost every game.

My guess is to cut down on the chances of inexperienced students getting super drunk real quick without realizing it.
 
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Whats the student lot like? Tone is bad, and some of the rules seem terrible, but if the lot was resembling x-lot during spring weekend i guess something had to be done
 

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Whats the student lot like? Tone is bad, and some of the rules seem terrible, but if the lot was resembling x-lot during spring weekend i guess something had to be done

It was about the same
 

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Ok, so here’s my thoughts:

A. WHY is AD Dave sending this out directly to the student body - couldn’t there have been someone else in the school this could have come from?

2. If he REALLY wanted to score points w/ the students and get them pumped again about football and coming to The Rent he’d be out there in the lot with them flipping burgers week 1!

C. I know the tickets are now free - which is great, but even with that this will hurt attendance in the Dog Pound for sure. When you see this kinda stuff come out it’s almost as if they’re trying to screw over Randy and this program and force them into going to FCS to save money, and giving up completely a few years down the road once the P5 scheduled games they have run their course. I give us 2-3 seasons if the losing continues before we start seeing tarps up in the upper deck at The Rent and one end zone.
 

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no way. nobody flipped over cars.

Sure but people certainly tried to reach the gates of heaven out there is what I’ve heard
 

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Some of the rules prohibit what is already not allowed in the Rentschler General Population. So the e-mail could have just been a "friendly" (Should have been friendlier in tone) reminder.

I'm wondering how they can enforce it, without ges.ta.po tactics.

- Hard liquor has been mixed with and in juice, water, or soda bottles for eons.

- Kegs are not allowed in the General Population at Rentschler. It is a general violation.

- The third bullet looks to be aimed at common source punch bowls of sorts. At floor parties in the late 90's we used a trashbag lined 25 gallon Rubbermade container.

- The 4th bullet seems to be aimed at floats. Other than a shelf coming out a trailer hitch, I do not recall trailers being allowed in General Population.

The final 3 seems like overreach.

- The no standing in or on truck beds seems to be a bit of overkill. That's what they are for.

- I guess the no glass rule is to prevent it from being used as weapons in a potential fight, but also a popped tire can ruin a person's night.

- No Pets? Is this really a problem? Are pets allowed in school or the dorms (because they weren't when I was there)? A guy on the floor below me housed a ferret in his room, but was in direct violation of Housing and he knew it. I knew a few people who had fish as well.

On the other hand, what if someone needs a trained personal service dog (not emotional support. Actual service animal)? I believe it is illegal to substantially interfere with service animals.
Re: beds of trucks...WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CALL IT TAILGATING?!?!?? I understand the concern of some 19 yr old girl dancing and falling out and breaking her neck. If they’re not allowed up there they can’t fall from there.
 

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Re: beds of trucks...WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CALL IT TAILGATING?!?!?? I understand the concern of some 19 yr old girl dancing and falling out and breaking her neck. If they’re not allowed up there they can’t fall from there.
Are you agreeing with me? I can't tell.

Maybe the the broader focus of should be the level of intoxication of whomever is dancing in the truck bed.

I'm interested in how these regulations are going to be enforced and what the consequences will be. Is it zero tolerance? Are they immediately whisked to County before they can get the Brinkmann out of the truck bed? This and the "no pets" one are just an odd things to make a rule against.

Alas, I am not too interested. I'll be cooking and consuming bourbon in Blue Lot.
 

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Are you agreeing with me? I can't tell.

Maybe the the broader focus of should be the level of intoxication of whomever is dancing in the truck bed.

I'm interested in how these regulations are going to be enforced and what the consequences will be. Is it zero tolerance? Are they immediately whisked to County before they can get the Brinkmann out of the truck bed? This and the "no pets" one are just an odd things to make a rule against.

Alas, I am not too interested. I'll be cooking and consuming bourbon in Blue Lot.
I’m agreeing with you. I have no idea how they will enforce a lot of this or if the fuzz will bother. Maybe they should offer a post game no rules rumspringer tailgate for those who actually go to the game
 
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Didnt get a chance to read anything yet, can someone confirm White Claw Seltzers will still be allowed?
 

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