New PAC-12 Forming

[Blades]

The new Pac12 is absolute garbage and there’s zero reason for us to want anything to do with them. The only way they can improve that conference is by moving it further west until it drowns offshore.

The idea that we would somehow be able to enhance recruiting by playing in the Pac12 is just so far on the wrong side of stupid. There isn’t a recruitable football player in this solar system who will spend even one second thinking about the Pac12 conference title.

+1....As a bunch of us having been saying all along, there's a reason Uconn turned down any PAC 12 talk as FB only awhile back. Sounds like some of their new members have received the not so glowing report on their TV/media deal. "A little lean" but better than $4mil ??? ....( report is it'll be great exposure though, I think I've heard that one before, LOL!)

Report also says regarding the PAC 12 bringing in any new members, "they probably won't be able to afford to pay any they've looked at in the past"

 

[Fishy]

It was insane that people thought this conference was actually going to be appealing to the media. The actual Pac12 only got offered a very conditional $20M per by Apple and people thought this collection of Mountain West scrapple was going to pull $10-15M?

It’s not a good conference. The American is orbits better.

 

[huskymedic]

Speaking of Mountain West…

 

[nelsonmuntz]

It was insane that people thought this conference was actually going to be appealing to the media. The actual Pac12 only got offered a very conditional $20M per by Apple and people thought this collection of Mountain West scrapple was going to pull $10-15M?

It’s not a good conference. The American is orbits better.

The departing schools will spend like $15MM each in exit fees, plus losing their cut of the Pac 12 OSU/WSU exit fees, which I think was around $40 million, just so they can make $4/year in the Pac 12? We have seen some dumb stuff in realignment, but this crew just set a new standard of stupidity.

 

[Kolumbo]

I think the PAC is a fine G conference for its State members. It's an extremely tough pill to swallow for Oregon State and Wazzu, going from the P5 to a very mediocre G league. I think SDSU can't be too thrilled either because it was primed for something bigger. It's like everyone is chasing dollars but losing financially and what makes sense from a regional standpoint. It's a tragic comedy before our eyes.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

It’s obvious that the PAC12 is banking on being the auto-G5 representative in the CFP but I’m not so sure that’s a guarantee.

 

[Windham4th]

It’s obvious that the PAC12 is banking on being the auto-G5 representative in the CFP but I’m not so sure that’s a guarantee.

It says the CW will carry their games... their games might be on tape delay for a Charmed marathon, but dont worry.... they are a major player in college football

 

[huskymedic]

-> The eight-member league will play a seven-game round-robin to determine the conference standings. Additionally, every school will have a “flex” rematch game on the final weekend that will not count toward conference standings but will be scheduled based on interests of the league, such as College Football Playoff or bowl considerations, according to the conference. <-

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Kolumbo]

Is this a joke?

So let's say for arguments sake SDSU and Boise St are the two best programs playing each other in Week 12. Maybe the conference would want to see the 2 best teams face off again the next week 13, or it would want to see the top 2 programs beat the bottom 2 programs again. Then the top 2 meet again in the championship game! Let's have SDSU and Boise St play each other 3 times in the same season!

 

[Storrs South]

Is this a joke?

So let's say for arguments sake SDSU and Boise St are the two best programs playing each other in Week 12. Maybe the conference would want to see the 2 best teams face off again the next week 13, or it would want to see the top 2 programs beat the bottom 2 programs again. They the top 2 meat again in the championship game! Let's have SDSU and Boise St play each other 3 times in the same season!

It's effectively a championship game that is controlled by the conference rather than strictly performance based. I would think the majority of the time it would be whoever is 1 and 2 in the conference but if 1 is clearly the best and 2 is not good and can only play spoiler but is good for an upset, they would drop the opponent down -- especially if that team is already in pole position for a CFP spot.

 

[KryHavok]

Have you heard the news coming through the grapevine
Fletch Flex is working overtime

So there will be basically a roulette in-season rematch before the conference game, that's the flex?! How unbrilliant! Great job newPac, that'll get arses in seats.

 

[Purple Stein]

It's effectively a championship game that is controlled by the conference rather than strictly performance based. I would think the majority of the time it would be whoever is 1 and 2 in the conference but if 1 is clearly the best and 2 is not good and can only play spoiler but is good for an upset, they would drop the opponent down -- especially if that team is already in pole position for a CFP spot.

They would be better served running a semifinal and then conference championship game (with the other 4 teams playing 5 v 8 and 6 v 7 for "bragging" rights during semifinal week).

It's really weird to plan a conference week that does not impact conference standings. We're going to start seeing regular season opt-outs with that kind of thinking.

 

[Kolumbo]

They don’t have enough members to hold a conference championship- hence, this will suffice for now.

the graphic said Nov 28 Week 13 Flex and Championship game Dec 4 but no championship game makes more sense. Sounds like the top 2 teams won't play in Week 13 but rather in the Championship game, and I don't know why I am wasting so much time on this!!!

 

[gioff2323]

I tried to delete post as my info was dated and wrong. And we’re here because after a tsunami of UConn fb info washing over us for 2 months, we’re in a desert looking for something/anything

 

[Patman]

It's effectively a championship game that is controlled by the conference rather than strictly performance based. I would think the majority of the time it would be whoever is 1 and 2 in the conference but if 1 is clearly the best and 2 is not good and can only play spoiler but is good for an upset, they would drop the opponent down -- especially if that team is already in pole position for a CFP spot.

i think they'll find a way to have 1 play 8 if the number 1 team is 5th in the country

 

[Kolumbo]

i think they'll find a way to have 1 play 8 if the number 1 team is 5th in the country

so the former head coach will get in the championship game through the backdoor

 

[pj]

Well, at least Jim Mora got good skiing and hiking.

 

[pj]

Yes, it would. The alternative is telling a recruit, “hey we have lots of games, most close to home, but we aren’t playing for anything. No conference standings, no conference championship, but hey, if we go undefeated for 2 or 3 years we may be considered for the playoff…”

I get that right now being independent works…but we need to be in a conference before too long…

Now that many teams and players skip bowl games, what are they playing for anywhere? Independent status is fine as long as you can schedule, and we've been getting great schedules.

 

[Purple Stein]

Now that many teams and players skip bowl games, what are they playing for anywhere? Independent status is fine as long as you can schedule, and we've been getting great schedules.

But this is the existential threat, right? What is anyone playing for outside those 12 CFP spots? There are over 130 teams.

Every solution seems to produce more stratification.

 

[pj]

But this is the existential threat, right? What is anyone playing for outside those 12 CFP spots? There are over 130 teams.

Every solution seems to produce more stratification.

I think the structure of college sports right now won't permit UConn to become one of those competitors for the 12 CFP spots. If there is a limit of ~$20 million on payouts to athletes across all sports, and UConn will always prioritize men's and women's basketball, then we'll always have the lowest football budget in the pool of sports-dedicated universities that spend the full $20 million. That may be ~40 schools. So no matter what conference we get in, there will be at least 39 schools with better football funding than us. I think we have to look to compete successfully with our competitor pool who is spending below $10 million on football. Those schools are not going to the CFP and we can compete with them.

Yes, there will be stratification, but we can be in a higher tier than we are now (i.e. the ~40th best football program) vs where we've been recently (~80-100). More like a mid-tier ACC or Big 12 program. That's success in my view.