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Rufus said:
You would think the PAC-12 was a Power Conference based on the stats they are throwing out.....

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CBS Sports and Pac-12 extend partnership through the 2030-31 season

CBS Sports and the Pac-12 Conference today announced an extension of their partnership which is set to begin with the 2025 football season. The extended partnership will continue with the league’s transformation and begin with the new Pac-12’s launch ahead of the 2026-27 season and carry through...
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  • Top Five League in Football- Over the last four seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026 season, the new Pac-12 has had:
    • Five of its seven football programs ranked among the College Football Playoff’s (CFP) Top 25, or 71% of its programs, the fourth-highest total percentage of programs ranked in the CFP Top 25 among all conferences in that time, as displayed here.
    • Six of its seven football programs ranked among the Associated Press’ (AP) Top 25, or 86% of its programs, the third-highest total percentage of programs ranked in the AP Top 25 among all conferences in that time.
    • A collective average Football Power Index (FPI) ranking of 74th among 136 total FBS teams (as of the 2026 season), the fifth-highest average FPI ranking among all conferences.
    • Boise State earn the No. 3 overall seed in the first edition of the expanded 12-team CFP in 2024.
  • Top Five League in Men’s Basketball- Over the last five seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026-27 season, the new Pac-12 has had:
    • The fourth-best average NET ranking among all conferences, as displayed here.
    • Seven of its eight men’s basketball programs make the Men’s NCAA Tournament since 2021, including two appearances in the National Championship game.

Average NET Ranking over last 5 years:

1. Big 12 - 53
2. B1G - 55
3. SEC - 56
4. PAC 12 - 73
5. Big East - 74
6. ACC - 96
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When it says "Over the last four seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026 season, the new Pac-12 has had:"

What does that mean? Did they take out the results of the schools that left and add in the new schools?
 
jostar1 said:
When it says "Over the last four seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026 season, the new Pac-12 has had:"

What does that mean? Did they take out the results of the schools that left and add in the new schools?
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I have no idea what that wording means. I assumed they were trying to say that had the current 8 PAC 12 schools played together as a conference for the past 4 years, these would have been the PAC 12 results. Maybe it's a west coast thing.
 
Inconveniently, the new Pac-n’s CBS/CBSSN football contract may push UConn CBSSN broadcasts to Fri evening or Sat 12 noon kickoffs. IMHO, that’s less desirable than Sat 3:30 pm or Sat evening kickoffs.
 
huskymedic said:
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-> JohnCanzano.com’s eponymous publisher is being told by sources to “keep an eye on Warner Bros. Discovery as a possible player as the new-look Pac-12 Conference’s media rights packages,” adding: “TNT Sports (TNT, TBS, truTV, and Max) will air more than 65 regular-season Big East basketball games starting next season. I asked a long-time media-world executive what he thought of marrying some Pac-12 basketball to that deal. He said, ‘Big East/Pac-12 doubleheaders would be a good combo.’” Canzano also points out that WBD “recently lost the NBA rights. It hasn’t traditionally played in the college space, other than the NCAA Tournament. It now has some college football games, NASCAR, professional wrestling, and some regular-season MLB games. I’m told that WBD and the Pac-12’s media consultant, Octagon, have been in discussions.” Canzano also reports that St. Mary’s officials “have been told by the Pac-12 that possible basketball additions will be considered after it finalizes the addition of at least one more full-time member and inks the media rights deal.” Meanwhile, Canzano is “cooling my jets on the ESPN front. The network grabbed two Oregon State football games as part of the 2025 TV deal. I’ve wondered for a while if ESPN might come in with some regular ‘Pac-12 After Dark’ games in 2026 and beyond, but that late-night inventory is likely to land with another partner, per a source.” (link) <-
 
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huskymedic said:


-> JohnCanzano.com’s eponymous publisher is being told by sources to “keep an eye on Warner Bros. Discovery as a possible player as the new-look Pac-12 Conference’s media rights packages,” adding: “TNT Sports (TNT, TBS, truTV, and Max) will air more than 65 regular-season Big East basketball games starting next season. I asked a long-time media-world executive what he thought of marrying some Pac-12 basketball to that deal. He said, ‘Big East/Pac-12 doubleheaders would be a good combo.’” Canzano also points out that WBD “recently lost the NBA rights. It hasn’t traditionally played in the college space, other than the NCAA Tournament. It now has some college football games, NASCAR, professional wrestling, and some regular-season MLB games. I’m told that WBD and the Pac-12’s media consultant, Octagon, have been in discussions.” Canzano also reports that St. Mary’s officials “have been told by the Pac-12 that possible basketball additions will be considered after it finalizes the addition of at least one more full-time member and inks the media rights deal.” Meanwhile, Canzano is “cooling my jets on the ESPN front. The network grabbed two Oregon State football games as part of the 2025 TV deal. I’ve wondered for a while if ESPN might come in with some regular ‘Pac-12 After Dark’ games in 2026 and beyond, but that late-night inventory is likely to land with another partner, per a source.” (link) <-
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St. Mary’s to the PAC12 makes sense. The WCC is cooked.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
St. Mary’s to the PAC12 makes sense. The WCC is cooked.
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I could see St. Mary's being quite happy as the "big dog" in the WCC. Easier path to an auto bid, in a conference that will support them and travel that makes sense. Outside men's basketball, essentially only under Randy Bennett who is getting up there in age, they're a very small-time athletic department. They can still play Gonzaga yearly in the OOC.
 
Texas St officially added to PAC

Time for another round of backfills!

Rumor has it that LaTech is front runner for the SunBelt. This seems dumb. For years CUSA added the existing programs while the SunBekt went after motivated FCS schools like Coastal, AppSt, and JMU. Result was that the SunBelt became almost on par with the American and MW whileCUSA was roadkill quality.

Sunbelt should be thinking about Sam HoustonSt or maybe MTSU, not another rural LA school that has nothing in the last 40 years.

Whichever CUSA school goes to the SB, does CU backfill with more FCS like McNeese or Tarleton to get above 10?
 
The New PAC-

6A. Expansion era 2023 Pac 12 - Sept 2024----8 teams.jpg
 
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Good read by Vannini:



-> While this round of conference realignment nears its end, we might be only a few years away from the next round, when Power 4 media rights deals begin to come up. Schools that joined the new Pac-12 have acknowledged this move isn’t about setting up the next 20 years. It was about positioning themselves for five years from now and whatever the next change in college sports looks like. We have a Big Ten with 18 teams and an ACC on both coasts.<-

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The Oregon State reporter is saying that Texas State is likely to only receive a half share until 2031. An interesting point considering they will be a a full-member.
 
If they stay at 8 football programs they will each need to schedule 7 OOC games. That might benefit UConn in terms of scheduling games. Looks like Texas State is a winner, now joining OSU, WSU, Boise St, Colorado State, SDSU. Nice little upgrade for the kids from San Marcos.
 
Kolumbo said:
If they stay at 8 football programs they will each need to schedule 7 OOC games. That might benefit UConn in terms of scheduling games. Looks like Texas State is a winner, now joining OSU, WSU, Boise St, Colorado State, SDSU. Nice little upgrade for the kids from San Marcos.
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14 regular season games?

dont you mean 5 OOC?

west coast teams will likely play
1-2 former PAC
1-2 MW
1-2 other
 
Vowelguy said:
14 regular season games?

dont you mean 5 OOC?

west coast teams will likely play
1-2 former PAC
1-2 MW
1-2 other
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Yes, I meant 5. I was typing that they'd have 7 conference games but I guess I was looking at it half empty instead of half full. :D

8 programs x 1-2 other gives UConn some opportunity there.

For anyone overly interested in TXST and PAC:

 
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MW will have 9 FB and 10 non-FB. They should add a couple more to shore up stability.

NMSU, SacSt, Sam Houston, Tarleton should be under consideration
 
I think if PAC could get side deal with BE to park all sports, Memphis, UConn and Temple would be interesting FB only adds.
I’d throw in USF, but not sure BE would want that BB. JMU athletics have been on an upswing and is a great FB school.

I think something to get BE some exposure would be a good And Temple and Memphis would be decent adds to add some depth for BB.

PAC could be Pacific-Atlantic Conference if they could get an eastern pod of 4 schools.
 
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uconnyankee said:
I think if PAC could get side deal with BE to park all sports, Memphis, UConn and Temple would be interesting FB only adds.
I’d throw in USF, but not sure BE would want that BB. JMU athletics have been on an upswing and is a great FB school.

I think something to get BE some exposure would be a good And Temple and Memphis would be decent adds to add some depth for BB.

PAC could be Pacific-Atlantic Conference if they could get an eastern pod of 4 schools.
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I can't see the ten BE schools that don't play FBS football having any desire to add Memphis or Temple.
 
Kowalski said:
I’m not familiar with BE exit fee rules
but why would there be exit fees for moving football? FB isn’t in the Big East.

B12 (any P4) is clearly the goal but Uconn has to get an invite first. And at this point, I think showing FB commitment by winning in a top G5 is what they need to make the case for a P4 invite. Demonstrated success there should clearly position UConn ahead of Memphis, Tulane, UNLV, WSU, SDSU, USF for an invite. Otherwise, some will have the FB edge over UConn.

I don’t expect UConn to get a PAC invite anyway, but if they do and can negotiate low or no exit fees, it may be the opportunity to definitely prove they’re next in line.
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It's not a great fit based on geography but I'm sure they're aware of the benefits of adding UConn which would be significant for the conference.
 
uconnyankee said:
I think if PAC could get side deal with BE to park all sports, Memphis, UConn and Temple would be interesting FB only adds.
I’d throw in USF, but not sure BE would want that BB. JMU athletics have been on an upswing and is a great FB school.

I think something to get BE some exposure would be a good And Temple and Memphis would be decent adds to add some depth for BB.

PAC could be Pacific-Atlantic Conference if they could get an eastern pod of 4 schools.
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I've read a lot of posts on message boards where people seem to think that any school can just park their basketball and Olympic sports in the Big East, no problem.

It doesn't work that way. Adding UConn was a unique situation for the Big East---a long-time member of the Big East, a championship program, in the conference footprint, familiar rivalries, and bringing a guaranteed crowd to MSG.

Not saying that the Big East couldn't add another football-playing school, but it's not as easy as some people think.
 
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jostar1 said:
I've read a lot of posts on message boards where people seem to think that any school can just park their basketball and Olympic sports in the Big East, no problem.

It doesn't work that way. Adding UConn was a unique situation for the Big East---a long-time member of the Big East, a championship program, in the conference footprint, familiar rivalries, and bringing a guaranteed crowd to MSG.

Not saying that the Big East couldn't add another football-playing school, but it's not as easy as some people think.
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My comment didn’t weigh how hard or easy it would be.
I just stated that the Big East needs to do something. Leveraging their BB brand to grow with a few BB schools that play football could be an option. Especially if the FB is in another conference and if said conference was willing to work with Big East.
It’s worked for UConn. I realize Uconn is very unique and was a grand slam for the Big East.

Not everything has to be a grand slam though. Adding some decent BB programs without watering down overall product could be a great opportunity.
 
uconnyankee said:
My comment didn’t weigh how hard or easy it would be.
I just stated that the Big East needs to do something. Leveraging their BB brand to grow with a few BB schools that play football could be an option. Especially if the FB is in another conference and if said conference was willing to work with Big East.
It’s worked for UConn. I realize Uconn is very unique and was a grand slam for the Big East.

Not everything has to be a grand slam though. Adding some decent BB programs without watering down overall product could be a great opportunity.
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The seven members that left the then BE a dozen years ago (yes, they left the football members) left almost entirely because they didn't want football ruling the conference.

I realize that many fans (and a few talking heads) are speculating that the BE needs to do something, but I am not sure that the member schools (who plan on remaining in the BE forever) feel they need to add members just for the sake of having a larger conference with more middle of the pack basketball programs.

If they do add any members it will be like minded schools.
 
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