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New PAC-12 Forming

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The dance for life or death dictates you keep playing. The only alt to making the B12 is making the ACC. Either way, failing to seal a deal has no bearing on whether the effort continues. The effort continues. The entire purpose of the UConn Men’s BB out of conf scheduling effort is to collect more data points for the B12.
 
The dance for life or death dictates you keep playing. The only alt to making the B12 is making the ACC. Either way, failing to seal a deal has no bearing on whether the effort continues. The effort continues. The entire purpose of the UConn Men’s BB out of conf scheduling effort is to collect more data points for the B12.
Where is that little thing called getting a better seed that is involved
 
What good is 5-8m per year if we going 3-9 every season because the travel has zapped our recruiting? The next 5 years for UConn football is about wins above anything. Must change the narrative with winning. Must be winning!

Also, no point joining the P12 when we are on the doorstep of the B12. If the B12 plans go bust by 2030, then its a whole new situation.
Sure, if I accept your premise that they can’t compete in the best G5 but I don’t. And if you support an all sports invite to the B12, it doesn’t make a very convincing to B12 presidents to argue at the same time that we’ll be competitive there because the long trips there are only 2000 to 2500 miles, even it’s for virtually every sports team (including FB) - not just 4 or 5 FB games.
 
What good is 5-8m per year if we going 3-9 every season because the travel has zapped our recruiting? The next 5 years for UConn football is about wins above anything. Must change the narrative with winning. Must be winning!

Also, no point joining the P12 when we are on the doorstep of the B12. If the B12 plans go bust by 2030, then its a whole new situation.

I’m not expecting us to go 3-9 under Mora, but I guess that could happen. Why can’t we go 7-5? If we cannot do that in the reconstituted PAC12 why would the B12 ever invite us?
 
Agree with Exit 4 for different reasons. We are in the process of establishing an identity. That identity involves having a winning FB program that is Independent. A few years of 10-2 or 9-3 with a decent bowl win and our new identity is solidified. Does it lead to the golden ticket? Who knows? It certainly has more cache than what we were the decade from 2014-2023.
 
Sure, if I accept your premise that they can’t compete in the best G5 but I don’t. And if you support an all sports invite to the B12, it doesn’t make a very convincing to B12 presidents to argue at the same time that we’ll be competitive there because the long trips there are only 2000 to 2500 miles, even it’s for virtually every sports team (including FB) - not just 4 or 5 FB games.
Can’t justify the BE exit fee for the p12 and too risky to our recruiting momentum.

Meanwhile, if we get into the B12, we will at least have a seat at the power table and eventually revenue to offset the travel pain. No doubt, the B12 does bear some risk- but it’s worthwhile vs the P12 risk.
 
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Can’t justify the BE exit fee for the p12 and too risky to our recruiting momentum.

Meanwhile, if we get into the B12, we will at least have a seat at the power table and eventually revenue to offset the travel pain. No doubt, the B12 does bear some risk- but it’s worthwhile vs the P12 risk.
I’m not familiar with BE exit fee rules
but why would there be exit fees for moving football? FB isn’t in the Big East.

B12 (any P4) is clearly the goal but Uconn has to get an invite first. And at this point, I think showing FB commitment by winning in a top G5 is what they need to make the case for a P4 invite. Demonstrated success there should clearly position UConn ahead of Memphis, Tulane, UNLV, WSU, SDSU, USF for an invite. Otherwise, some will have the FB edge over UConn.

I don’t expect UConn to get a PAC invite anyway, but if they do and can negotiate low or no exit fees, it may be the opportunity to definitely prove they’re next in line.
 
I’m not familiar with BE exit fee rules
but why would there be exit fees for moving football? FB isn’t in the Big East.

B12 (any P4) is clearly the goal but Uconn has to get an invite first. And at this point, I think showing FB commitment by winning in a top G5 is what they need to make the case for a P4 invite. Demonstrated success there should clearly position UConn ahead of Memphis, Tulane, UNLV, WSU, SDSU, USF for an invite. Otherwise, some will have the FB edge over UConn.

I don’t expect UConn to get a PAC invite anyway, but if they do and can negotiate low or no exit fees, it may be the opportunity to definitely prove they’re next in line.

It’s dangerous. That’s a tough football league and we would be recruiting kids to play in a conference clear across the country. We might struggle in that conference as a fish out of water. However, the schedule is appealing to me.
 
Agree with Exit 4 for different reasons. We are in the process of establishing an identity. That identity involves having a winning FB program that is Independent. A few years of 10-2 or 9-3 with a decent bowl win and our new identity is solidified. Does it lead to the golden ticket? Who knows? It certainly has more cache than what we were the decade from 2014-2023.
Yep ....the BYU approach, already tried the Houston, Cincy, UCF plan and failed
 
I’m not familiar with BE exit fee rules
but why would there be exit fees for moving football? FB isn’t in the Big East.
I think UConn could move football to a conference without any penalty from the Big East.
If UConn moved to a new all sports conference, UConn would have a high exit fee:

Years 1 through 6 = $30 million
Years 7 to 10 = $15 million
After year 10 = $10 million

So, after this upcoming basketball season, the exit fee drops in half to $15 million.
 
I think UConn could move football to a conference without any penalty from the Big East.
If UConn moved to a new all sports conference, UConn would have a high exit fee:

Years 1 through 6 = $30 million
Years 7 to 10 = $15 million
After year 10 = $10 million

So, after this upcoming basketball season, the exit fee drops in half to $15 million.
So big news coming next April. I knew it!!!

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Can’t justify the BE exit fee for the p12 and too risky to our recruiting momentum.

Meanwhile, if we get into the B12, we will at least have a seat at the power table and eventually revenue to offset the travel pain. No doubt, the B12 does bear some risk- but it’s worthwhile vs the P12 risk.

I think you are on your own journey there.

No one has ever theorized that we would leave the Big East in all sports for the P12.



As predicted, their media rights landed with a thud.
 
You would think the PAC-12 was a Power Conference based on the stats they are throwing out.....



  • Top Five League in Football- Over the last four seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026 season, the new Pac-12 has had:
    • Five of its seven football programs ranked among the College Football Playoff’s (CFP) Top 25, or 71% of its programs, the fourth-highest total percentage of programs ranked in the CFP Top 25 among all conferences in that time, as displayed here.
    • Six of its seven football programs ranked among the Associated Press’ (AP) Top 25, or 86% of its programs, the third-highest total percentage of programs ranked in the AP Top 25 among all conferences in that time.
    • A collective average Football Power Index (FPI) ranking of 74th among 136 total FBS teams (as of the 2026 season), the fifth-highest average FPI ranking among all conferences.
    • Boise State earn the No. 3 overall seed in the first edition of the expanded 12-team CFP in 2024.
  • Top Five League in Men’s Basketball- Over the last five seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026-27 season, the new Pac-12 has had:
    • The fourth-best average NET ranking among all conferences, as displayed here.
    • Seven of its eight men’s basketball programs make the Men’s NCAA Tournament since 2021, including two appearances in the National Championship game.

Average NET Ranking over last 5 years:

1. Big 12 - 53
2. B1G - 55
3. SEC - 56
4. PAC 12 - 73
5. Big East - 74
6. ACC - 96
 
You would think the PAC-12 was a Power Conference based on the stats they are throwing out.....



  • Top Five League in Football- Over the last four seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026 season, the new Pac-12 has had:
    • Five of its seven football programs ranked among the College Football Playoff’s (CFP) Top 25, or 71% of its programs, the fourth-highest total percentage of programs ranked in the CFP Top 25 among all conferences in that time, as displayed here.
    • Six of its seven football programs ranked among the Associated Press’ (AP) Top 25, or 86% of its programs, the third-highest total percentage of programs ranked in the AP Top 25 among all conferences in that time.
    • A collective average Football Power Index (FPI) ranking of 74th among 136 total FBS teams (as of the 2026 season), the fifth-highest average FPI ranking among all conferences.
    • Boise State earn the No. 3 overall seed in the first edition of the expanded 12-team CFP in 2024.
  • Top Five League in Men’s Basketball- Over the last five seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026-27 season, the new Pac-12 has had:
    • The fourth-best average NET ranking among all conferences, as displayed here.
    • Seven of its eight men’s basketball programs make the Men’s NCAA Tournament since 2021, including two appearances in the National Championship game.

Average NET Ranking over last 5 years:

1. Big 12 - 53
2. B1G - 55
3. SEC - 56
4. PAC 12 - 73
5. Big East - 74
6. ACC - 96
When it says "Over the last four seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026 season, the new Pac-12 has had:"

What does that mean? Did they take out the results of the schools that left and add in the new schools?
 
When it says "Over the last four seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026 season, the new Pac-12 has had:"

What does that mean? Did they take out the results of the schools that left and add in the new schools?
I have no idea what that wording means. I assumed they were trying to say that had the current 8 PAC 12 schools played together as a conference for the past 4 years, these would have been the PAC 12 results. Maybe it's a west coast thing.
 
Inconveniently, the new Pac-n’s CBS/CBSSN football contract may push UConn CBSSN broadcasts to Fri evening or Sat 12 noon kickoffs. IMHO, that’s less desirable than Sat 3:30 pm or Sat evening kickoffs.
 

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