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freescooter said:
Hardly worth doing if it's only $60 million. It might be worth each team trying to put together its own deal for its product and paying a fee to the Big East. Similar to what UConn does with the womens games.
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That's just ignorant.

This is NOT Bowling or Tennis. (where by the way ... there is a central body too)
 
If the final number was $5 to $6 mill per school, UConn would be better off selling its own rights. We already get $1 mill for secondary women's bb rights, so wbb rights are probably worth $2 to $3 mill alone. Football should be worth $4 to $6 mill and mbb would be worth $3 to $5 mill
 
Again ... I don't think you have the capacity (unless you are ND or BYU ... a University with flock) to sell this without a Conference. I wish there was a way to strip Conferences from individual assets. It's hard to believe that Waco or Wake Forest is worth many many times our Alma Mater.

Also, the MWC contract is worth a fraction of the $5-6m we are discussing.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
And ZLS is doing a happy dance.

Actually, Dodd blows all credibility when he says anyone will go back to the MWC. That is pretty much off the table. They might decide they don't want to be in a league with UConn and cut us loose, but they aren't going back to the MWC and its toxic TV deal. If Dodd is going to write an article like this he should at least know that the MWC is a non-starter.
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McMurphyESPN 2:33pm via TweetDeck
Ok then. Now waiting for responses to "biased" CBS reporting RT @dennisdoddcbs: New Big East deal could be worth as little as $60M/year
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Comments from Aresco:

http://voices.idahostatesman.com/20..._2013_conference_games_be_announced_next_week
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It's become pretty clear to me that the best sources of info for Big East football news are coming out of the pacific time zone.

The big east football schedule for 2013 will be released next week. I'm quite curious as to whether or not that schedule will be released with or without a media rights deal in place. Me thinks there is going to be a busy weekend ahead of media talks.

I guy can hope right?
 
Pudge said:
That's just ignorant.

This is NOT Bowling or Tennis. (where by the way ... there is a central body too)
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Aren't we currently getting about $4 million? Under a $60 million deal we don't do much better. And what does bowling and tennis have to do with anything?
 
Carl Spackler said:
It's become pretty clear to me that the best sources of info for Big East football news are coming out of the pacific time zone.

The big east football schedule for 2013 will be released next week. I'm quite curious as to whether or not that schedule will be released with or without a media rights deal in place. Me thinks there is going to be a busy weekend ahead of media talks.

I guy can hope right?
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No doubt. It seems this Murphy guy out of Boise is way on top of BE stuff than writers out here. We hear nothing out of Courant regarding any of this stuff. CT writers are totally out of the loop regarding the BE conference. The only guy who gives any info is the Jersey guy blog it seems.

If Aresco even get a chance to stabilize this conference, it might have a chance. Unfortunately every time Aresco or the BE tried to do anything, another raid comes before any chance of stabilization. It is what it is.
 
freescooter said:
Aren't we currently getting about $4 million? Under a $60 million deal we don't do much better. And what does bowling and tennis have to do with anything?
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Highly doubt the new deal will be this bad even with the new lineup. The market condition alone will drive that much higher.
 
freescooter said:
Aren't we currently getting about $4 million? Under a $60 million deal we don't do much better. And what does bowling and tennis have to do with anything?
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Think about it ...

Aren't you (freescooter) and others answering your own question. IF you can get $4m on your own (because of unique local eyeballs & Cable carriage), wouldn't a conglomerate of many UConn's be worth an increment more?

That's why this McMurphy & Dodd are such crap. YOU ARE IN A DEMAND FRENZY ... there is NOT one bidder. There are many. Pac 12 just got a huge deal; which followed the B12 getting big numbers. The English Premier League is up a multiple. So ... I remain leary of this pessimism on that number.

The BIG thing? Well, we just got skunked. If Rutgers & Maryland get $40m per annum & we are at $6m ... where is this going? How does that affect our viability?
 
It is worth pointing out that the Pac 12 broadcasts about 1/3 of their football games at 10 pm east coast time, and they get $250MM for 12 teams. 1/3 of their content is virtually worthless east of the Mississippi, and they get that much.

This market is about demand.
 
The deal will suck monkey nuts.

There may be a demand frenzy, but not for the potluck Aresco's serving.
 
"When you see reports on television and revenue, just ignore it," Aresco said. "We haven't talked to any networks yet about any valuations."
Aresco said the departures of Louisville (to the ACC) and Rutgers (to the Big Ten) created a delay in negotiations as the Big East turned to expansion and grabbed Tulane and East Carolina.
"We just don't know yet" what the television deal will be worth, Aresco said.
Aresco said six networks are interested in obtaining Big East television rights and that several non-traditional entities have also inquired.
"We should start generating valuations fairly soon," Aresco said. "There's still enormous interest in the Big East."
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Fishy said:
The deal will suck monkey nuts.

There may be a demand frenzy, but not for the potluck Aresco's serving.
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What is your standard?

ALL these BY posters are b*tching because it won't be near the $$$ Rutgers or Maryland will get. And, then a full increment down, it won't be near the $$$ that Louisville is going to receive in their first year at the ACC homeshopping&football&ginzuknife channels.

If you are looking at the Variance between A ... and B ... to what Aresco is going to get, then YES: monkey nuts. But, there seems to be a concerted effort by Dodd/McMurphy and lots of our Connecticut posters here to lowball what Aresco's dollars are going to be. Fine ... go ahead & swim in that. Boise is NOT going to go back to the Mountain West ... because? The MWC contract was about $2m & they will get 3times that from Aresco. (did you know we were in trailers not long ago>?)
 
The MWC deal is less than $1MM year for all sports and it runs through 2016 or 2017. No one is going back to the MWC.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Just keep inviting sh1tty teams in big markets they said!

It will increase the tv dollars they said!
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sure ... you & zls ... we shoulda stayed Yankee Conference.
 
Pudge said:
sure ... you & zls ... we shoulda stayed Yankee Conference.
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You know, there would have been nothing wrong going with the following conference (given the circumstances):

UConn, Cinci, USF, UCF, Temple,Houston, SMU, Boise State (fb-only), San Diego State (fb-only) - 9 teams.

-No dead weight/awful teams, like Memphis, Tulane and ECU.
-4 home games, 4 road games.
-Opens up BE Basketball for more made for tv matchups.

MOST IMPORTANTLY - Without deadweight like Memphis, Tulane and ECU, our PER TEAM PAYOUT DOESN'T DECREASE!
 
The guy who just won PowerBall could buy 9 seasons of Big East TV programming.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
You know, there would have been nothing wrong going with the following conference (given the circumstances):

UConn, Cinci, USF, UCF, Temple,Houston, SMU, Boise State (fb-only), San Diego State (fb-only) - 9 teams.

-No dead weight/awful teams, like Memphis, Tulane and ECU.
-4 home games, 4 road games.
-Opens up BE Basketball for more made for tv matchups.

MOST IMPORTANTLY - Without deadweight like Memphis, Tulane and ECU, our PER TEAM PAYOUT DOESN'T DECREASE!
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I think that Marinatto ... and NOW Aresco ... is being pushed towards some of these choices. I don't think 9 really is a good size considering what Boise & SD are going to have to travel & vice versa. And I REALLY DON'T think this Per Team Payout decreases. It just isn't a dilution model that many, including the Dodds of the world, think. It is a Comcast ... a Network concept ... that a NEW market is accretive. Aresco told that Idaho reporter 14 teams with a new Football only out west.
 
Pudge said:
I think that Marinatto ... and NOW Aresco ... is being pushed towards some of these choices. I don't think 9 really is a good size considering what Boise & SD are going to have to travel & vice versa. And I REALLY DON'T think this Per Team Payout decreases. It just isn't a dilution model that many, including the Dodds of the world, think. It is a Comcast ... a Network concept ... that a NEW market is accretive. Aresco told that Idaho reporter 14 teams with a new Football only out west.
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Tulane, Memphis, Temple and East Carolina add less value than UConn, Cinci, Boise State and USF. That's a fact.

There is absolutely no way to spin that adding more teams that bring less value, increases the per team payout.

I can SEE maybe getting to 12 adds a championship game that offsets some of the weak teams to an extent.

Going beyond 12 just defies any logic whatsoever.
 
6 million. 8 million. 10 million. At the end of the day it doesn't matter which one of those numbers it lands on. The outcome is still the same.
 
Pudge said:
What is your standard?

ALL these BY posters are b*tching because it won't be near the $$$ Rutgers or Maryland will get. And, then a full increment down, it won't be near the $$$ that Louisville is going to receive in their first year at the ACC homeshopping&football&ginzuknife channels.

If you are looking at the Variance between A ... and B ... to what Aresco is going to get, then YES: monkey nuts. But, there seems to be a concerted effort by Dodd/McMurphy and lots of our Connecticut posters here to lowball what Aresco's dollars are going to be. Fine ... go ahead & swim in that. Boise is NOT going to go back to the Mountain West ... because? The MWC contract was about $2m & they will get 3times that from Aresco. (did you know we were in trailers not long ago>?)
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If the market value of the Big East contract is in the low end and Dodd/McMurphy are proven right, the result will not be because of Dodd/McMurphy. It will be because the value of the Big East is in reality low and Dodd/McMurphy just happened to be reporting accurately. It will be because the Big East replaced Rutgers with duck*ing Tulane.

If I buy a stock and its price goes down, it's probably not solely because CNBC reported on its price going down.
 
Pudge said:
What is your standard?

ALL these BY posters are b*tching because it won't be near the $$$ Rutgers or Maryland will get. And, then a full increment down, it won't be near the $$$ that Louisville is going to receive in their first year at the ACC homeshopping&football&ginzuknife channels.

If you are looking at the Variance between A ... and B ... to what Aresco is going to get, then YES: monkey nuts. But, there seems to be a concerted effort by Dodd/McMurphy and lots of our Connecticut posters here to lowball what Aresco's dollars are going to be. Fine ... go ahead & swim in that. Boise is NOT going to go back to the Mountain West ... because? The MWC contract was about $2m & they will get 3times that from Aresco. (did you know we were in trailers not long ago>?)
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By any reasonable standard, the Big East's television contract will be awful. You can capitalize DEMAND FRENZY to your heart's content, but unfortunately there's no DEMAND FRENZY for what the Big East is offering. It may be heaven for Tulane or East Carolina or whatever other grease fire we're inviting next week, but it's a horror show for networks and a horror show for Connecticut.

No one will want this grease fire for anything other than fire sale pricing. When Aresco says that the Big East has not discussed 'valuations' with anyone, he is being cute - he has and they are dismal.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
No doubt. It seems this Murphy guy out of Boise is way on top of BE stuff than writers out here. We hear nothing out of Courant regarding any of this stuff. CT writers are totally out of the loop regarding the BE conference. The only guy who gives any info is the Jersey guy blog it seems.

If Aresco even get a chance to stabilize this conference, it might have a chance. Unfortunately every time Aresco or the BE tried to do anything, another raid comes before any chance of stabilization. It is what it is.
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Delaney put some torpedoes broadside into two conferences for Thanksgiving 2012. My hope, is that somebody from UConn has been reading all my crap from the past three years or so, and has managed to put a copy of Roy Kramer's report to the UConn BOT in 1996, on Jim Delaney's desk.

Talking to you - Warde Manuel.

UConn - needs a football conference. Put us in a football conference, and we bring East Coast basketball with us.
 
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