Nebrich has to start next week. Let the Nebrich era begin.

[nelsonmuntz]

I see no reason to start McEntee. He has very few physical tools, no athleticism, weak arm, he has no more experience in this offense than any of the other guys. What does he bring to the table? Mentally, he looked like a freshman. Forcing throws into coverage, poor pocket awareness, throwing off his back foot. Even if Nebrich has the same issues, which he probably will, at least he can make some plays with his legs, and at least we would be getting a freshman some experience.

I would have bought HCPP reasoning for sticking with him if he hadn't brought Nebrich in for that one series, because I do think continuity is important. But if you are going to play Nebrich at all, he deserves more of a chance than 2 throws

So Nebrich doesn't even need to be as good as McEntee to keep the starting job? I love the logic on this board.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

So Nebrich doesn't even need to be as good as McEntee to keep the starting job? I love the logic on this board.

How are you drawing that conclusion?

It says they will most likely have the same issues in the passing game, but Nebrich has the advantage of mobility on his side.

That's the logic.

 

[bmayuc]

So Nebrich doesn't even need to be as good as McEntee to keep the starting job? I love the logic on this board.

Not once did the previous poster, or any poster, say that. You have a very annoying tendency to apply words to other posters that they simply did not ever say. It makes having a conversation with you nearly impossible.

If the bar Nebrich has to reach is 10-27 for 99 yards and 3 INTs, well, lets just say that if he ISN'T capable of equalling that, then perhaps we should just insert McCummings, turn the clocks back to 1955, and run some Wishbone Option boys, cuz its gonna be a long slog of a year.

 

[BlueMAB]

I'm not sure how anyone can defend the decision to stay with McEntee last night. No disrespect to the kid, but he didn't get it done, and he realizes that.

We couldn't run in the second half, we couldn't throw the ball all game, and we have an option QB, and a mobile QB, on the sideline getting virtually zero snaps. I just want to understand why, and "continuity" isn't cutting it. Not when the production was abysmal.

 

[bmayuc]

I'm not sure how anyone can defend the decision to stay with McEntee last night. No disrespect to the kid, but he didn't get it done, and he realizes that.

We couldn't run in the second half, we couldn't throw the ball all game, and we have an option QB, and a mobile QB, on the sideline getting virtually zero snaps. I just want to understand why, and "continuity" isn't cutting it. Not when the production was abysmal.

Especially considering that unlike professional football, confidence and composure are SOOOOO much more important in college football, and even 1500 miles away through a television, you could feel that Johnny Mac had ZERO confidence. He was just going out there with blinders on, locking in on guys, and hoping for the best. Its tough, but its true.

This may be an adjustment for HCPP/Deleone to make, coming from the pro game.

 

[Husky7793]

Just posted this on another thread because it's not just about Nebrich in my estimation . . .

Use McCummings & Nebrich in a situation-dictated, option-oriented rotation until they gain more experience and confidence. Don't put the full burden on either one of them until or unless a clear #1 emerges. Let them share the load. Utilize their mobility; feature Thunder & Lightening, the TEs, and DJ's hands. Go deeper when it opens up.​

 

[BlueMAB]

Here is where waylon or wiscy will start putting words in my mouth.

I don't expect the production to go up, and it may not make much of a difference. But if you have a true freshman and a redshirt freshman close enough to a redshirt junior that they deserve snaps in real games, then why stop giving them snaps in the second game when your starter is playing so badly?

I'm not saying McEntee should never play again, but the other guys need more reps. I won't be pissed to see McEntee start Friday. I'll be pissed if he has another stinker, and the other guys don't get any snaps.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Here is where waylon or wiscy will start putting words in my mouth.

I don't expect the production to go up, and it may not make much of a difference. But if you have a true freshman and a redshirt freshman close enough to a redshirt junior that they deserve snaps in real games, then why stop giving them snaps in the second game when your starter is playing so badly?

I'm not saying McEntee should never play again, but the other guys need more reps. I won't be pissed to see McEntee start Friday. I'll be pissed if he has another stinker, and the other guys don't get any snaps.

In college football, with few exceptions, you play the best guy available when he is available. Maybe that is Nebrich, but the idea that we would play Nebrich over McEntee just because he is younger is absurd.

I watched the second half again on ESPN3. Some of those drops were just horrendous. McCombs in particular seemed so half assed in his routes. Nebrich isn't going to help that.

 

[UCweCONN]

+1

chill out

 

[junglehusky]

I do think Nebrich should get more snaps this season, sooner rather than later, esp. since we've already burned his redshirt. And while the "continuity" justification profferred by PP rings a bit hollow, I can see why they didn't put Nebrich in there the second half vs. nashville. It was still a winnable game (down 8, then 1, then ahead), on the road, and they probably felt it wasn't worth the risk to expose a true freshman to a pressure situation that early. And.... I have no insider info or anything but I'm guessing he didn't get as many snaps in practice the prior week, and as a freshman maybe he just doesn't have as much of the offense mastered as JMac at this point. That can change over the course of a season. Heck, the coaches could just listen to the fans and promote MN to starter tomorrow, but I think it'll take at least another bad JM peformance before you hand over the reins. It's just my opinion, but I think you want to give JMac one half at least vs. Iowa State, and some time in following games to see how he handles adversity. Maybe he can improve? Maybe?

 

[ZooCougar]

Here is where waylon or wiscy will start putting words in my mouth.

I don't expect the production to go up, and it may not make much of a difference. But if you have a true freshman and a redshirt freshman close enough to a redshirt junior that they deserve snaps in real games, then why stop giving them snaps in the second game when your starter is playing so badly?

I'm not saying McEntee should never play again, but the other guys need more reps. I won't be pissed to see McEntee start Friday. I'll be pissed if he has another stinker, and the other guys don't get any snaps.

Doesn't sound like a bad idea. To bad your Gump didn't do that when he had the chance.

 

[uconnfootball12]

It wasn't a little overthrown. He missed a wide open receiver by 5 yards because he didn't put any air under the ball.

We get the same kind of moronic arguments on the hoops board, where every freshman will be the next Ray Allen/Donyell Marshall/Rip Hamilton/Emeka Okafor. There is a reason why coaches don't just start their entire recruiting class. You want to see what a freshman/sophomore starting lineup looks like, watch a replay of FIU/Louisville. And those recruits were much higher rated than ours.

a little bit nervous like LAMB was on the court, then after reps he gets better!

 

[freescooter]

Does anyone think that with 120+ Division 1 programs (most? All of whom offer scholarships) there was a plausible reason why JMcEntee was a walk on?

I thought it was established last week. He was a walkon because Edsall doesn't know anything and never gave him a chance. He was clearly the best quarterback on the team the last few years.

 

[BlueMAB]

In college football, with few exceptions, you play the best guy available when he is available. Maybe that is Nebrich, but the idea that we would play Nebrich over McEntee just because he is younger is absurd.

I watched the second half again on ESPN3. Some of those drops were just horrendous. McCombs in particular seemed so half assed in his routes. Nebrich isn't going to help that.

Nebrich shouldn't play over McEntee because he is younger, and I didn't say that. (I did say you would put words in my mouth, so thank you for proving me right.).

Nebrich should get more snaps because he has a higher ceiling, and will have more time in the program to develop. He was highly recruited, where as McEntee is a walk-on, so there are plenty of people who know more about football than you or I that saw more potential in Nebrich than McEntee. Nebrich hasn't played poorly, and McEntee certainly shouldn't have the job won based on his production, so IMO Nebrich should continue getting snaps. I didn't say he should be the guy and McEntee should be benched.

Unlike wiscy's repeated attempt to make arguments on behalf of others, I don't expect the production to go up just because a switch may be made. I do expect the team to benefit in the long term by going with the younger guy if they are close enough in practice to warrant burning his redshirt for 2+ quarters of football.

 

[BlueMAB]

Doesn't sound like a bad idea. To bad your Gump didn't do that when he had the chance.

Gump doesn't lose that game. Gump got us to a BCS bowl. Gump got us 2 conference championships.

Gump also played 3 QBs last year.

 

[CTHUSKY74]

My two cents. Even if we don't think the performance (passing and hitting correct receivers) of the freshmen is going to be much better than JM, we should expect that they can give us a dimension that JM can't -- escapability, ability to gain yards with their feet and hopefully with reps, passing accuracy. We all thought that we were getting passing accuracy at least with JM. If we're not, there's no point to having him back there. Let's face it, even with the terrible production on offense, we almost and should have won that game! The issues of finding the open guys, avoiding the rush, poor arm strength, etc. are not going to go away most likely and it would be a positive step to give others a chance to show what they have against good competition before a final decision is made. As someone else said, it's not like being named the back-up means you'll never play this year. It's more like finding someone who can produce something on offense rather than just spinning our wheels. Maybe film work will improve JM's reads, Shoemate coming back will help the running game, being home will help us win against a quality opponent and playing one QB will lead to more consistency -- BUT if we don't find out how the other QB options work against a quality opponent we may not develop our best option for having a serviceable offense this year. I don't think that an early road game is the best place to try out your alternatives, but I do think that playing at home where the fans can support your efforts is. I believe PP will give all these guys a shot on Friday. Fans better be ready to give this team all the support it needs.

 

[ZooCougar]

Gump doesn't lose that game. Gump got us to a BCS bowl. Gump got us 2 conference championships.

Gump also played 3 QBs last year.

Gump did worse. Gump was responsible for his own catastrophes. Road game loss to USF in 2006, the infamous Navy game. Losing to Rutgirls last season, losing to Temple.

You have selective memory.

 

[ZooCougar]

Nebrich shouldn't play over McEntee because he is younger, and I didn't say that. (I did say you would put words in my mouth, so thank you for proving me right.).

Nebrich should get more snaps because he has a higher ceiling, and will have more time in the program to develop. He was highly recruited, where as McEntee is a walk-on, so there are plenty of people who know more about football than you or I that saw more potential in Nebrich than McEntee. Nebrich hasn't played poorly, and McEntee certainly shouldn't have the job won based on his production, so IMO Nebrich should continue getting snaps. I didn't say he should be the guy and McEntee should be benched.

Unlike wiscy's repeated attempt to make arguments on behalf of others, I don't expect the production to go up just because a switch may be made. I do expect the team to benefit in the long term by going with the younger guy if they are close enough in practice to warrant burning his redshirt for 2+ quarters of football.

Name one example of making arguments on behalf of others. If you love Edsall Gump so much then why didn't you follow him when he fired UConn last winter?

 

[mauconnfan]

Usually vert and speed go hand and hand, but Sticks wasn't that fast for a starting 3 in the Big East. Do you remember Sticks blowing by a lot of defenders on fast breaks or going to the basket? Me neither. To give Sticks credit, he actually developed into a decent mid range shooter and adequate post up player. His touch around the hoop wasn't bad. Which is how Sticks ended up as a decent player that was fun to watch when he wasn't doing his vanishing act. Nothing more. Certainly not a "great" athlete by Big East standards.

I think of him as a taller, slower version of Donny Marshall without Donny's drive to excel or work ethic.

Twice the athlete Donny was without his head or drive I agree. But he certainly was one the great UConn and Big East "athletes" but not one of the great bball players. Stating him as a great athlete does not say he has great handle or bball intelligence it states exactly that - he coul jump out of the gym and was a freak athlete. He also had a rough Sr year but shuld best be remembered for one of the main reasons the Huskies went ot the FF in 09......his run was very very good late year!!!

 

[BlueMAB]

Name one example of making arguments on behalf of others. If you love Edsall Gump so much then why didn't you follow him when he fired UConn last winter?

I don't love Edsall Gump, I love UConn. I respect the job he did here, and don't understand why someone would essentially call him a highly functioning mentally dumb man considering what he accomplished. He wasn't perfect, but your insistence of resorting to name-calling means you understand you can't be intellectually honest and instead have to use insults. Baseless insults. If you want to insult him, call him a coward for the way he ran out on his team without telling them face to face. I'll pile on if that's your beef. "Gump" on the other hand speaks more about your than it does him.

But to answer your question, you like to accuse people of making excuses for him that they simply haven't made.

 

[BlueMAB]

Gump did worse. Gump was responsible for his own catastrophes. Road game loss to USF in 2006, the infamous Navy game. Losing to Rutgirls last season, losing to Temple.

You have selective memory.

Sure Edsall had awful games. Everyone does. He isn't perfect. Where did I say we should fire Pasqualoni after one game? Kind of hard to do worse than someone who was here 10 years after 2 games. Let's see if Pasqualoni can do better, he should, he has a lot more to work with thanks to Gump.

You have selective memory, your complaint was that Edsall wouldn't have played 3 QBs, when in fact, he did.

 

[ZooCougar]

Sure Edsall had awful games. Everyone does. He isn't perfect. Where did I say we should fire Pasqualoni after one game? Kind of hard to do worse than someone who was here 10 years after 2 games. Let's see if Pasqualoni can do better, he should, he has a lot more to work with thanks to Gump.

You have selective memory, your complaint was that Edsall wouldn't have played 3 QBs, when in fact, he did.

Uhh I never said that you said that.

I never said that Edsall wouldn't have played 3 QBs. Now you're making stuff up.

The whole point of the thread was to say that I don't think either of the other two would make much of a difference. The choice is all about whether you want a more experienced QB (McEntee) getting the playing time or if you want one the other younger guys playing in order to bank experience. That's an operational decision that the Coaches have to make.

 

[ZooCougar]

I don't love Edsall Gump, I love UConn. I respect the job he did here, and don't understand why someone would essentially call him a highly functioning mentally dumb man considering what he accomplished. He wasn't perfect, but your insistence of resorting to name-calling means you understand you can't be intellectually honest and instead have to use insults. Baseless insults. If you want to insult him, call him a coward for the way he ran out on his team without telling them face to face. I'll pile on if that's your beef. "Gump" on the other hand speaks more about your than it does him.

But to answer your question, you like to accuse people of making excuses for him that they simply haven't made.

 

[noeynox]

I take it wing UConn is formerly cthusky77?

 

[uconnfan68]

Not once did the previous poster, or any poster, say that. You have a very annoying tendency to apply words to other posters that they simply did not ever say. It makes having a conversation with you nearly impossible.

If the bar Nebrich has to reach is 10-27 for 99 yards and 3 INTs, well, lets just say that if he ISN'T capable of equalling that, then perhaps we should just insert McCummings, turn the clocks back to 1955, and run some Wishbone Option boys, cuz its gonna be a long slog of a year.

works for Navy...

 

[DieHardHusky]

_______ Will start come Friday night....____________ Will finish the game.

 

[J187Money]

Nebrich has not thrown an interception this season

Except for the bad one he threw against Fordham...