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Nebrich has to start next week. Let the Nebrich era begin.

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If McEntee gets benched next week, it does not mean his career is over. Each of the last two seasons Frazer was benched for poor play and later came back a better QB. He learned by watching from the sidelines. McEntee can do the same.

Nebrich deserves a shot because he is an unkown quantity right now and we need to find out if there is some hidden upside to his game. Endres surprised us with his play when he started against Baylor 2 years ago. It's Nebrich's turn to show us what he's got. If that decision costs us the Iowa State game so be it.
 
metsfan2323 said:
If McEntee gets benched next week, it does not mean his career is over. Each of the last two seasons Frazer was benched for poor play and later came back a better QB. He learned by watching from the sidelines. McEntee can do the same.

Nebrich deserves a shot because he is an unkown quantity right now and we need to find out if there is some hidden upside to his game. Endres surprised us with his play when he started against Baylor 2 years ago. It's Nebrich's turn to show us what he's got. If that decision costs us the Iowa State game so be it.
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If we are ready to go another direction, than the fact that Iowa State looks semi-decent shouldn't matter. Go with Nebrich. I think I am there too.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If we are ready to go another direction, than the fact that Iowa State looks semi-decent shouldn't matter. Go with Nebrich. I think I am there too.
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I might be as well. But I was also ready for Box @ Louisville last year, so as frightening as it sounds, it can be worse.
 
Watching McEntee lock onto receivers all night was hard to watch. He could of had another 3 or 4 picks. I like McEntee but he looks like his confidence is gone or going.

I would rather UConn start Nebrich and see what he can do with a half at the very least. You don't know until he plays more than a few plays here and there.
 
UConn990411 said:
You're wasting your time trying to rationalize with someone who still argues that Stanley Robinson isn't a Big East-caliber athlete.
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Lmao. I remember that.

Idk how Nebrich looked 'lost' in 3 plays. However McEntee looked like he sucked over the course of the game, save a few plays. Start Nebrich Friday. It's time for UConn to groom a QB and not just have a stop gap rotation.
 
I hope someone from the horde asks Coach P the following:

"If you don't lose your spot due to injury, why isn't Shoemate getting any snaps? And if the main factor in QB play is production, then why isn't Nebrich getting more snaps?"

Either both of them are injured (and in Shoemate's case, it's worse than they are letting on), or Coach P sees something in practice that we aren't seeing in the games.
 
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UConn990411 said:
You're wasting your time trying to rationalize with someone who still argues that Stanley Robinson isn't a Big East-caliber athlete.
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No, I just didn't agree with you that he was the best athlete in UConn history.
 
cryjeremiah said:
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I thought I saw something that was 2 games in the first 3 weeks of the season? So he could technically still be red shirted?

Not sure though, someone else want to confirm?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If you are going to make up my position, I will make up yours.
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You already do that to posters anyway.

You did make that argument, repeatedly. You can try and block it out of your mind, but anyone around long enough remembers.
 
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WingU-Conn said:
You already do that to posters anyway.

You did make that argument, repeatedly. You can try and block it out of your mind, but anyone around long enough remembers.
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I made the argument that he was not a great athlete by Big East standards. And he isn't, because the Big East is the best basketball conference in the country and had athletes that frequently made Sticks look foolish. He was a great leaper with long arms that could do nasty dunks. That is not a great athlete. People with triple digit IQ's understand the difference between a great dunker and a great athlete compared to other top athletes playing at the highest level.

As I say every time this comes up, how is Sticks doing at the next level? He was the best athlete in UConn history or the Big East or whatever you mouth breathers thought. So where are his NBA All Star game appearances?

Why am I arguing with you? One of us understands complex, multidimensional, abstract concepts, and one of us can only remember nasty dunks.
 
this sounds like semantics. best athlete and most athletic are two different things. whatever.
go to sleep, it's clearly past a lot of people's bedtime.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I made the argument that he was not a great athlete by Big East standards. And he isn't, because the Big East is the best basketball conference in the country and had athletes that frequently made Sticks look foolish. He was a great leaper with long arms that could do nasty dunks. That is not a great athlete. People with triple digit IQ's understand the difference between a great dunker and a great athlete compared to other top athletes playing at the highest level.

As I say every time this comes up, how is Sticks doing at the next level? He was the best athlete in UConn history or the Big East or whatever you mouth breathers thought. So where are his NBA All Star game appearances?

Why am I arguing with you? One of us understands complex, multidimensional, abstract concepts, and one of us can only remember nasty dunks.
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LMAO

At least you've finally admitted you have to make up the other person's argument in order to validate yours.
 
NelsonCuntz is clearly hammered. He is one of the most unlikeable posters ever.
 
None of these guys are going to produce much more than Mac straight out of the gate. We start Nebrich, we'll get a similar result and then people will screaming for McCummings.
 
ZooCougar said:
None of these guys are going to produce much more than Mac straight out of the gate. We start Nebrich, we'll get a similar result and then people will screaming for McCummings.
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Right on !!
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
I made the argument that he was not a great athlete by Big East standards. And he isn't, because the Big East is the best basketball conference in the country and had athletes that frequently made Sticks look foolish. He was a great leaper with long arms that could do nasty dunks. That is not a great athlete. People with triple digit IQ's understand the difference between a great dunker and a great athlete compared to other top athletes playing at the highest level.

As I say every time this comes up, how is Sticks doing at the next level? He was the best athlete in UConn history or the Big East or whatever you mouth breathers thought. So where are his NBA All Star game appearances?

Why am I arguing with you? One of us understands complex, multidimensional, abstract concepts, and one of us can only remember nasty dunks.
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I missed out on this discussion on the basketball board, but I totally agree that Sticks was not a great player in the Big East. I think he had wonderful athletic ability in terms of running and jumping, probably great measurables, you know, but in terms of bb IQ, or coachability, whatever it was, he just disappeared out there on the floor. I think it was all in his head, but I'd take any one of the current players over sticks. Even Giffey.
 
ZooCougar said:
None of these guys are going to produce much more than Mac straight out of the gate. We start Nebrich, we'll get a similar result and then people will screaming for McCummings.
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Right, just like with Michael Box. Everyone wanted Box. Box was going to be the savior.
 
gars44 said:
I missed out on this discussion on the basketball board, but I totally agree that Sticks was not a great player in the Big East. I think he had wonderful athletic ability in terms of running and jumping, probably great measurables, you know, but in terms of bb IQ, or coachability, whatever it was, he just disappeared out there on the floor. I think it was all in his head, but I'd take any one of the current players over sticks. Even Giffey.
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Usually vert and speed go hand and hand, but Sticks wasn't that fast for a starting 3 in the Big East. Do you remember Sticks blowing by a lot of defenders on fast breaks or going to the basket? Me neither. To give Sticks credit, he actually developed into a decent mid range shooter and adequate post up player. His touch around the hoop wasn't bad. Which is how Sticks ended up as a decent player that was fun to watch when he wasn't doing his vanishing act. Nothing more. Certainly not a "great" athlete by Big East standards.

I think of him as a taller, slower version of Donny Marshall without Donny's drive to excel or work ethic.
 
When our QB play sucks we always want to see what the other guys can bring to the table. DJ, Dennis Brown, the kid from Ohio, Zach before TL, Cody, Box....... etc etc. However, the only thing JMac has over those other guys is that he can accurately hit a stationary target when not under duress. And that is not a factor against FBS opponents. I think JMac can improve. I also think that 10/27 for 99 yards, 3 int's and numerous other ill-advised throws is enough to warrant a benching in favor of Nebrich. I hope that we hear that Nebrich is practicing with the 1's this week - if not, it's going to be a long Friday night.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I made the argument that he was not a great athlete by Big East standards. And he isn't, because the Big East is the best basketball conference in the country and had athletes that frequently made Sticks look foolish. He was a great leaper with long arms that could do nasty dunks. That is not a great athlete. People with triple digit IQ's understand the difference between a great dunker and a great athlete compared to other top athletes playing at the highest level.

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As I say every time this comes up, how is Sticks doing at the next level? He was the best athlete in UConn history or the Big East or whatever you mouth breathers thought. So where are his NBA All Star game appearances?

Why am I arguing with you? One of us understands complex, multidimensional, abstract concepts, and one of us can only remember nasty dunks.
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Well, not to be too late to this, since I just got in from Nashville, but Sticks "was a great athlete" in my triple digit IQ opinion. Michael Jordan was a great athlete, also a mighty fine basketball player, not so much baseball. To say Michael was not a great athlete "baseball wise" 'cause he didn't make the majors would not be correct. Judgment as to "athletic" is more "generic" (speed, agility, explosion) than is he "good at xxxxx". If Jerome Junior (picked him 'cause of how he plays and he sure seemed to have a basketball players body, even in football pads) played for Uconn boys basketball, would be hard pressed to say "that isn't a Big East Standard ATHLETE", probably would not say he was good BE basketball player, even by Uconn girls standards! :D
Are you saying that if for some reason got the Uconn track guy who is very good at decathlon to play for Uconn boys, and he wasn't too good, he would not be a great athlete by Big East standards?
 
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McEntee is a four year player and even though it is a new offense he shouldn't be locking on receivers as he did though out the game. The other thing I noticed was his inability to feel pressure from the back side. That is not learned but something you just have. I like McEntee, but I do wonder if he gives UConn the best chance to win in the short run and in the long run.
 
Nebrich has not thrown an interception this season, he has not fumbled, he has not been sacked. He has shown the ability to avoid sacks and he clearly gets rid of the ball at a faster pace than McEntee. Nebrich, like Lorenzen, can run for a first down. Right now I would be thrilled with a Lorenzen like QB performance against Iowa State.

People who are claiming that our QB switches have always failed are forgetting that two years ago when we switched from Frazer to Endres we saw a HUGE improvement in QB play.

On a side note Lorenzen is one of the most underated players in UCONN football history, he was a productive QB when his wheels were working. If Nebrich could be Lorenzen for the rest of the season we will win at least 8 games with this defense.
 
On another side note would everyone who has posted a basketball post on this thread kindly delete it. Thanks in advance.
 
I see no reason to start McEntee. He has very few physical tools, no athleticism, weak arm, he has no more experience in this offense than any of the other guys. What does he bring to the table? Mentally, he looked like a freshman. Forcing throws into coverage, poor pocket awareness, throwing off his back foot. Even if Nebrich has the same issues, which he probably will, at least he can make some plays with his legs, and at least we would be getting a freshman some experience.

I would have bought HCPP reasoning for sticking with him if he hadn't brought Nebrich in for that one series, because I do think continuity is important. But if you are going to play Nebrich at all, he deserves more of a chance than 2 throws
 
I don't know what Sticks has to do with all this, but it is very reasonable to let Nebrich take over. McEntee is a third year player and there does not appear to be good reason to suffer through his learning to play when he has little time to go and we have already burned Nebrich's redshirt. Several years ago we had to put Orlovsky out there---it wasn't pretty, but he learned by doing and and we were better off. Dennis Brown also started for us in his frosh year and did pretty well in at least one game ---almost beat Rutgers, in a year when we were not very good. To boot, Rutgers played a frosh last year at QB and he did pretty well. I say we go with Nebrich and alternate with McCummings for the wildcat threat and see if we can get better as the year goes on.
 
I'm glad that HCPP had the courage to give Mac a chance. That said Nebrich needs the time to ascertain whether we burned a year for no reason at all. Cochran will be coming and it would be nice to see what Nebrich can handle. Frankly, I think he could be a great one, given an investment by HCPP. Also, McCummings needs to be on the field, if not at quarterback then in another position. He is a character guy and a outstanding athlete. Now, let the bullets fly.
 
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