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I'm curious how many graduating seniors would actually want to return for another season as opposed to starting careers or playing professionally.
I'm guessing not many. Some who are considering a graduate degree probably would so long as it doesn't count against a team's scholarship limit. For basketball I don't think this matters. I think Geno was talking about spring sports that have been canceled. For 90% of NCAA basketball players, their season was only cut short by a game or two as opposed to most of the entire season for some spring sports that are just getting going.
 
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I wonder when players eligible for the draft and an additional season will have to make their decision.
 
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No, the point is there is no national champion. It's not even like South Carolina went undefeated. If this were UConn 2016 or Tennessee 1998 there might be an argument. But not for a team who lost by 15 to Indiana, hid out at home for almost all their important games, and barely squeaked by Temple.

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You are right. "There is no national champion." However, there is a "mythical" national championship. I don't mind if Oregon fans claim a mythical "Massey Championship."

"Lost by 15 to Indiana." That's 20th ranked Indiana. Three days before facing defending national champions, Baylor, in the same tournament in the Virgin Islands


"hid out at home"
Beat Top 6 Maryland at Maryland
Beat Top 6 Baylor at neutral site
Beat Top 6 UConn at home
Beat every SEC team on the court assigned by the Conference. (While we are presently the best SEC program, we ain't Bama football and don't get to pick our schedule)

"barely squeaked by Temple." So what? We won by seven on their court the next game after beating Baylor.

Now. Let's consider:
Best Record in the nation - against #3 strength of schedule [Oregon #4] according to Real Time RPI Oregon #1 Scar #3 by Massey
Longest win streak in nation 26 games
#1 ranking by NCAA selection committee
#1 ranking by NCAA RPI
#1 ranking by Coaches' Poll w 27 first place votes to 5 for Oregon
#1 ranking by AP poll w 27 first place votes to 3 for Oregon

Should the NCAA award us a national championship? No. Should an official national championship be awarded to Oregon? No.

Can both teams (and mostly fans thereof) claim a mythical national championship - with corresponding asteriSteven Krajewski? Yup, and the arguments are all we have in the absence of real games.

I do feel sorry for Oregon's seniors - and ours. Our seniors are fortunate to have rings from their freshman year. Our underclassmen will have their opportunities, so I feel a bit more sorry for Oregon's seniors who have never even made it to the Sweet 16. Our freshmen will have opportunities in the future.

This season will forevermore wear an:

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I'm curious how many graduating seniors would actually want to return for another season as opposed to starting careers or playing professionally.
It certainly depends upon the program, coaching staff, their college experience thus far, availability of jobs, and a host of other factors. As for one P5 team west of the Mississippi, three of the four graduating seniors would be all in for another year's run, according to one of the four seniors who seemed to be comfortable responding for her fellow seniors.

Jobs for graduating seniors will be difficult to obtain in a poor economy. That is our economic reality right now.
 
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Geno said he’s interested in seniors extra year of eligibility
I think this is just lip service in support of the players. He also said the NCAA should relax the scholarship limits for a year and that the NCAA should pay the schools for the additional scholarships because the schools can’t afford it (Right! The NCAA was just forced to cancel what is basically their only source of revenue, and now they’re gonna pay an extra year of tuition + room & board for all the seniors? NOT!)

And he wasn’t only referring to seniors in the spring sports which had their whole seasons canceled. Geno gave the example of UConn’s 5 WBB seniors all returning and putting him over the scholarship limit. He knows that ain’t gonna happen.
 
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I think this is just lip service in support of the players. He also said the NCAA should relax the scholarship limits for a year and that the NCAA should pay the schools for the additional scholarships because the schools can’t afford it (Right! The NCAA was just forced to cancel what is basically their only source of revenue, and now they’re gonna pay an extra year of tuition + room & board for all the seniors? NOT!)

And he wasn’t only referring to seniors in the spring sports which had their whole seasons canceled. Geno gave the example of UConn’s 5 WBB seniors all returning and putting him over the scholarship limit. He knows that ain’t gonna happen.
Only source of revenue? I’m not really against it because the NCAA is full of corrupt individuals profiting off the likeness of the kids names and not paying them a cent. Also, the way they’ve handled transfers over the past few years is not to my liking either. I don’t feel sorry for the NCAA at all.
 

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It will be continued with:
But yet that's not the same thing.

Not the same thing as trying to claim / begging the NCAA for a title you never earned.
 
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Only source of revenue? I’m not really against it because the NCAA is full of corrupt individuals profiting off the likeness of the kids names and not paying them a cent. Also, the way they’ve handled transfers over the past few years is not to my liking either. I don’t feel sorry for the NCAA at all.
Yes - over 90% or the NCAA's revenue is derived from the men's NCAA tournament (the women's tournament loses money and is subsidized by the men's). The NCAA does not get any football money or regular season basketball money, which goes directly to the schools.
 

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Yes - over 90% or the NCAA's revenue is derived from the men's NCAA tournament (the women's tournament loses money and is subsidized by the men's). The NCAA does not get any football money or regular season basketball money, which goes directly to the schools.
Not just the WBB tournament. All but 4 of the other D-I championships are money losers.

From the NCAA's own site:
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This is unfortunate but it would have been unconscionable to play the tournament. Infectious disease specialists are predicting up to 150 million cases in the US and a worst case scenario of 1 million deaths. If canceling the tournament will save some lives the NCAA had no choice.

in connection with my company, which supports government DOD contracts, I listened on an audio report from the CDC. Their representative said there were over 110,000 covd-19 cases in the world to date. That, contrary (my word for emphasis, not that of the presenter ) to media reports and counts, 19 people have died in the US to date, 18 in Washington state (largely centered in one elderly care facility) and 1 in California.
My understanding is that the conference call was in response to the numbers provided above but that is second hand information. While they were reported by the CDC, they seem ridiculous at face value. The virus seems to follow a bell curve, that is, new cases that climb steadily, peak, and then decline seemingly just as steadily. Hopefully this is true, and while I would agree cases in the US have undoubtedly not peaked, the 150 million number just does not make sense when compared to the number globally.
Data out of China is suspect to say the least but it does appear that new cases there have declined. Amazon has announced plans for the re-opening of their stores there, and I would hope, emphasize hope, they are responsible enough to have some real data showing that conditions there have changed to support their decision.
As far as projected deaths in the US, China reports they have had 3,000+ deaths. So let’s assume they have understated that by a factor of 100. So the number becomes 300,000. I think even they would have a hard time suppressing such a number but let’s assume they have; the US is going to have 3+ times the number China has, with a superior health care system and facilities and significantly less people?
My point is that, unfortunately, like everything in this country, this situation has become media-ized and politicized to the point where truth and common sense, unity and working for the common good have become afterthoughts if they are “any thoughts”. I hope all and theirs stay safe and we get through this, unfortunately I have given up the idea of doing it together, unfortunately, it seems we have already “chosen up sides” and I think this crisis probably proves we are beyond the point of our “leadership“ pulling themselves and us together.
If I have violated the rules regarding political posts, I apologize. I am taking no sides and hopefully, that makes my post acceptable.
 
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Yes - over 90% or the NCAA's revenue is derived from the men's NCAA tournament (the women's tournament loses money and is subsidized by the men's). The NCAA does not get any football money or regular season basketball money, which goes directly to the schools.
It is hard to know if that statement about the women's tournament is actually correct since the TV contract is handled as a package deal for 24 sports tournaments and not as a individual event - the other 23 events are certainly small potatoes compared to the WCBB tournament but the breakdown by event is never shown.
 

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in connection with my company, which supports government DOD contracts, I listened on an audio report from the CDC. Their representative said there were over 110,000 covd-19 cases in the world to date. That, contrary (my word for emphasis, not that of the presenter ) to media reports and counts, 19 people have died in the US to date, 18 in Washington state (largely centered in one elderly care facility) and 1 in California.
My understanding is that the conference call was in response to the numbers provided above but that is second hand information. While they were reported by the CDC, they seem ridiculous at face value. The virus seems to follow a bell curve, that is, new cases that climb steadily, peak, and then decline seemingly just as steadily. Hopefully this is true, and while I would agree cases in the US have undoubtedly not peaked, the 150 million number just does not make sense when compared to the number globally.
Data out of China is suspect to say the least but it does appear that new cases there have declined. Amazon has announced plans for the re-opening of their stores there, and I would hope, emphasize hope, they are responsible enough to have some real data showing that conditions there have changed to support their decision.
As far as projected deaths in the US, China reports they have had 3,000+ deaths. So let’s assume they have understated that by a factor of 100. So the number becomes 300,000. I think even they would have a hard time suppressing such a number but let’s assume they have; the US is going to have 3+ times the number China has, with a superior health care system and facilities and significantly less people?
My point is that, unfortunately, like everything in this country, this situation has become media-ized and politicized to the point where truth and common sense, unity and working for the common good have become afterthoughts if they are “any thoughts”. I hope all and theirs stay safe and we get through this, unfortunately I have given up the idea of doing it together, unfortunately, it seems we have already “chosen up sides” and I think this crisis probably proves we are beyond the point of our “leadership“ pulling themselves and us together.
If I have violated the rules regarding political posts, I apologize. I am taking no sides and hopefully, that makes my post acceptable.
Not sure when you had this report or when it was dated, but on the CDC web page the current figures are:
  • Total cases: 1,629
  • Total deaths: 41
  • Jurisdictions reporting cases: 47 (46 states and District of Columbia)
So since your report deaths in the US have more than doubled. I hope your report was recorded more than a week ago, but the common scientific reporting suggest that spread of the disease will double every 6 days at its current rate.
 

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Stop begging Staley, it's not a good look. What kind of real competitor would want to be handed a trophy that they didn't win under tournament pressure on the floor?

When does the begging stop and the whining begin? Maybe she should call and ask LeBron for advice!
 
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I didn’t know that universities were to the point of canceling commencements and graduations. Oh wow!
 

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