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The one ACC team I root for loses, go figure. Looks like Michigan State just beat them at their own game.
 
Izzo's Postseasons:

2014: 4-seed - E8 (Overachieve by 1)
2013: 3-seed - S16 (Expectation)
2012: 1-seed - S16 (Underachieve by 2)
2011: 10-seed - R64 (Expectation)
2010: 5-seed - Final Four (Overachieve by 2)
2009: 2-seed - Runner up (Overachieve by 2)
2008: 5-seed - S16 (Expectation)
2007: 9-seed - R2 (Expectation)
2006: 6-seed - R64 (Underachieve by 1)
2005: 5-seed - FF (Overachieve by 2)
2004: 7-seed - R64 (Underachieve by 1)
2003: 7-seed - E8 (Overachieve by 2)
2002: 10-seed - R64 (Expectation)
2001: 1-seed - Final Four (Expectation)
2000: 1-seed - National Champion (Overachieve by 2)
1999: 1-seed - Final Four (Expectation)
1998: 4-seed - S16 (Expectation)

Very impressive runs from weak seeds, but he needs some titles.
 
tzznandrew said:
He gets to Final Fours and E8s.

He doesn't win titles.

The best tournament coaches win titles.
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How many titles does he have? I think he's won at least one national championship. His team rarely loses games where they are the favorite, our game last season notwithstanding. And has won a boatload a games where his team has been the dog. He's always been my favorite non-UConn coach.

similar to Yukon, his team is in filled up with McDonald's all-americans. Granted he probably gets more than we do, but nothing like Kansas, Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky and Arizona. Similar to JC, who does more with less, compared to Roy Williams and even Coach K, who I believe do less with more. If JC had the type of talent those other programs had, he'd probably have double the amount of national championships.
 
SDSU can grind down Duke with their personnel. Should be fun to watch with K's short bench.
 
DogMania said:
How many titles does he have? I think he's won at least one national championship. His team rarely loses games where they are the favorite, our game last season notwithstanding. And has won a boatload a games where his team has been the dog. He's always been my favorite non-UConn coach.

similar to Yukon, his team is in filled up with McDonald's all-americans. Granted he probably gets more than we do, but nothing like Kansas, Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky and Arizona. Similar to JC, who does more with less, compared to Roy Williams and even Coach K, who I believe do less with more. If JC had the type of talent those other programs had, he'd probably have double the amount of national championships.
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He's got one. He's a very good coach.

He gets a lot of talent, too. Not Duke or UK levels, or KU or UNC. But he gets a lot. With some of his teams, you'd think he's have another title somewhere.
 
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I wouldn't trade a title for an Elite 8 or Final 4. But it's just as impressive to be there EVERY year than get hot one year and totally fall off the map the next. A college season lasts Nov-April. I don't think what happens before March should just be forgotten because you didn't win the title. For all the moaning about the 2006 team because they didn't win it, boy would I take a regular season of dominance like that right now with an Elite 8 loss.
 
DogMania said:
How many titles does he have? I think he's won at least one national championship. His team rarely loses games where they are the favorite, our game last season notwithstanding. And has won a boatload a games where his team has been the dog. He's always been my favorite non-UConn coach.
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And he just seems a likeable, approachable guy, which is something you can't say for a lot of top coaches... not even JC really. Happy for Izzo. Didn't think MSU would get by UVa, but hey, while Bennett's defense is great, you have to score too. In a tourney where I don't really like any of the teams since Hoiberg went out and my bracket is hopeless, I'll root for Izzo.
 
tzznandrew said:
Izzo's Postseasons:

2014: 4-seed - E8 (Overachieve by 1)
2013: 3-seed - S16 (Expectation)
2012: 1-seed - S16 (Underachieve by 2)
2011: 10-seed - R64 (Expectation)
2010: 5-seed - Final Four (Overachieve by 2)
2009: 2-seed - Runner up (Overachieve by 2)
2008: 5-seed - S16 (Expectation)
2007: 9-seed - R2 (Expectation)
2006: 6-seed - R64 (Underachieve by 1)
2005: 5-seed - FF (Overachieve by 2)
2004: 7-seed - R64 (Underachieve by 1)
2003: 7-seed - E8 (Overachieve by 2)
2002: 10-seed - R64 (Expectation)
2001: 1-seed - Final Four (Expectation)
2000: 1-seed - National Champion (Overachieve by 2)
1999: 1-seed - Final Four (Expectation)
1998: 4-seed - S16 (Expectation)

Very impressive runs from weak seeds, but he needs some titles.
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Impressive. Calhoun's three national championships is even more impressive. I often imagine how many more he might have had if we had beaten Duke back in 1990. Our recruiting definitely got better after that year, but might have been even better if he had reach some final force earlier on.

And we miss some trips to the Final Four that we should not have missed such as losses against Florida and Mississippi State, though one of them was in an elite 8 loss with the path to -4 wide open for us. Though took place after we won some national championships, the loss to George Mason was another missed trip to the Final Four, that team was flawed. if Marcus Williams and AJ Price were able to play side by side, I think we would have had another national championship.
 
I like Izzo, and I'm really liking my MSU Final Four pick. I was worried that their free throw issues could haunt them, but that was such a weak bracket at the top that I ended up putting MSU and Louisville through to the Elite Eight based on the strength and tournament experience of their respective coaches.
 
storrsroars said:
And he just seems a likeable, approachable guy, which is something you can't say for a lot of top coaches... not even JC really. Happy for Izzo. Didn't think MSU would get by UVa, but hey, while Bennett's defense is great, you have to score too. In a tourney where I don't really like any of the teams since Hoiberg went out and my bracket is hopeless, I'll root for Izzo.
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I've not watched many UV games this year, but if they had a couple of good 3 point shooters, they could have pulled out that game. Without it, it wasn't going to happen.
 
tzznandrew said:
Izzo's Postseasons:

2014: 4-seed - E8 (Overachieve by 1)
2013: 3-seed - S16 (Expectation)
2012: 1-seed - S16 (Underachieve by 2)
2011: 10-seed - R64 (Expectation)
2010: 5-seed - Final Four (Overachieve by 2)
2009: 2-seed - Runner up (Overachieve by 2)
2008: 5-seed - S16 (Expectation)
2007: 9-seed - R2 (Expectation)
2006: 6-seed - R64 (Underachieve by 1)
2005: 5-seed - FF (Overachieve by 2)
2004: 7-seed - R64 (Underachieve by 1)
2003: 7-seed - E8 (Overachieve by 2)
2002: 10-seed - R64 (Expectation)
2001: 1-seed - Final Four (Expectation)
2000: 1-seed - National Champion (Overachieve by 2)
1999: 1-seed - Final Four (Expectation)
1998: 4-seed - S16 (Expectation)

Very impressive runs from weak seeds, but he needs some titles.
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Great stat but I don't think he needs titles for validation. Sure multiples is nice but one is enough, we just can't underestimate what we have accomplished. And we beat him to do it!

Being a MSU fan would be second to us based on your graphic, and above dook. He is right now the best coach in college basketball over K in my book.
 
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8893 said:
I like Izzo, and I'm really liking my MSU Final Four pick. I was worried that their free throw issues could haunt them, but that was such a weak bracket at the top that I ended up putting MSU and Louisville through to the Elite Eight based on the strength and tournament experience of their respective coaches.
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In a really close game, I'm wondering if their bad free throw shooting will cost them. As long as they have a solid enough buffer, say up by two possessions, I like their chances. I have a feeling that they're poor free throw shooting is going to bite them in the ass, maybe not in the next round, but in the E-8 or F4. I think I had them in the final 4 or maybe even the championship game in one of my brackets.
 
Kitaman said:
Great stat but I don't think he needs titles for validation. Sure multiples is nice but one is enough, we just can't underestimate what we have accomplished. And we beat him to do it!

Being a MSU fan would be second to us based on your graphic, and above dook. He is right now the best coach in college basketball over K in my book.
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I'd love to see someone put together a list of Duke's record over the last 25 years. K has a lot of success, but has underperformed their seeding dramatically a number of times.
 
DogMania said:
I'd love to see someone put together a list of Duke's record over the last 25 years. K has a lot of success, but has underperformed their seeding dramatically a number of times.
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Plus K always has supreme talent to work with.
Izzo just seems to have lunch pail type players. (Sound familiar?)
 
Just saw Angelo Chol on the SDSU bench. I vividly remember UConn's recruitment of him. His numbers are far from impressive, but UConn could sure use a body like his in the post.
 
Just doesn't seem right to see an Okafor wearing a Duke uniform.
 
Scoe said:
UVA is was very overrated, once everyone predicted them to make the FF some had them winning it all I knew they would fall early.
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I hope you don't really believe that, because they were without a doubt the 2nd or 3rd best team in the country this year. They have been stagnant on offense without justin anderson, who was also their best 3 pt shooter (something we really needed today), and had been hampered by other injuries at the end of the year. Put that together with a terrible matchup in MSU (again, thanks ncaa committee...) and it wasn't a stretch to call the upset today.

But to call UVA overrated is just stupid
 
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huskiesNhoos said:
I hope you don't really believe that, because they were without a doubt the 2nd or 3rd best team in the country this year. They have been stagnant on offense without justin anderson, who was also their best 3 pt shooter (something we really needed today), and had been hampered by other injuries at the end of the year. Put that together with a terrible matchup in MSU (again, thanks ncaa committee...) and it wasn't a stretch to call the upset today.

But to call UVA overrated is just stupid
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The fact that everyone or most said they are making the FF makes them overrated. They are a very good team just became a little overrated by the media. They weren't beating UK anyways.
 
UVa wasn't overrated. If the tourney was in January they would have made quite a run.
 
Scoe said:
The fact that everyone or most said they are making the FF makes them overrated. They are a very good team just became a little overrated by the media. They weren't beating UK anyways.
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They got upset in a win or go home tourney. Upset does not equal overrated

No argument on the UK comment. Our offense against their defense would have made Butler's '11 offense in the championship game look stellar
 
Scoe said:
The fact that everyone or most said they are making the FF makes them overrated. They are a very good team just became a little overrated by the media. They weren't beating UK anyways.
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Based on what? They were clearly one of the best three or four teams in the country this year. It's a single elimination tournament. The fact that a team has a bad day and gets caught doesn't suddenly mean they were overrated.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
SDSU is helpless against Duke right now.
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Duke is the real deal this year. Utah can beat them, and so can Gonzaga. But they'd be justly favored in each.

Looking at the east Region, if they get out, they're playing for the title. And they are one of the teams can can beat Kentucky without playing a Villanova 1985 game.
 
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tzznandrew said:
Duke is the real deal this year. Utah can beat them, and so can Gonzaga. But they'd be justly favored in each.

Looking at the east Region, if they get out, they're playing for the title. And they are one of the teams can can beat Kentucky without playing a Villanova 1985 game.
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especially if the last plumlee brother continues playing well
 
I am getting bored with the P5 Tournament. Season 1 Game of Thrones Marathon on HBO Zone is more entertaining.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I am getting bored with the P5 Tournament. Season 1 Game of Thrones Marathon on HBO Zone is more entertaining.
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Day 1 was a great day of games.

Day 2 and 3 were less than exciting.

Duke-SDSU was never going to be a close game, though, so hopefully Dayton-Oklahoma and Wichita State-Kansas are fun games.
 
It needs to be said: "Justise" is a name for a stripper, not a forward.
 
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