NCAA Scandal and Kevin Ollie

[UConn990411]

With that being said, you cannot just write off the championship as right place, right time and in the same thread say he can't coach. Also the tourney team 2 years ago cannot be dismissed as luck. Cannot have it both ways.

There are so many here who don't see it that way. Good post

Yup. And too many people seem to forget about the job Ollie did the year before the title season keeping the team together and motivated, even with a postseason ban. He deserves a ton of credit for that season, as well as outcoaching some HOFers on the way to the title.

But by every objective measure, he’s been a disaster of a head coach since then, and does not deserve anymore chances beyond this year.

 

[Jaker]

Is anyone else pissed that Ollie is not being given the "resources" to compete with the Big Boys?? No way should have ever lost Stone to the Terps!

 

[CTBballfan243]

I’ll take KO over a cheating scumbag coach everyday of the week, even if it means just being an average team. Play by the rules and graduate the players and I’m fine.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Dude, no one said he’s a paragon of virtue.

And everyone recognizes how bad he’s been and deserves to be shown the door.

If your opinion is that given how horrendous he’s been to the program and given how we are under investigation ourselves, which you presume is as bad as the payment scandal, he should be shown the door regardless of what happens in the general scope of college basketball, then just state that.

Responding with “this thread is a show” and nothing else is a “ show contribution”.

Hate when posters respond, “that’s the dumbest thing I ever hear”. “You’re an idiot” “people here have lost it”. Just write a counter response and move on.

Can’t people have meaningful conversations and write what they think without personal attacks and while offering some basis of thought

Post, handle, avatar trifecta.
Not how SJ rolls.

 

[Yorkeez4]

I can see the future interview now:

Reporter: When are you going to start punishing schools for paying players to come to play for them?

NCAA: We’re taking this very seriously, as you know we’re currently investigating UConn.

Reporter: But UConn hasn’t been paying players...

NCAA: Yes, but they’ve been stealing championships from programs who have, so we believe they must be doing something bad.

Reporter: So what is the current focus of the UConn investigation?

NCAA: We have reason to believe as recent as 2014 that the huskies were hungry, but they haven’t been since then. We have reason to believe that someone affiliated with the program has been illegally feeding the hungry huskies.

I think you hit the nail on the head. Once Shabazz complained about it bring illegal to feed the players the NCAA changed the rules. Since then the Huskies have not been hungry.

 

[RoderickSpode]

I’ll take KO over a cheating scumbag coach everyday of the week, even if it means just being an average team. Play by the rules and graduate the players and I’m fine.

I think the last two years qualify as well below average.

 

[storrsroars]

Totally, that’s a given. There’s not a shot in heII Arizona brings in Pitino.

I meant Pitt would go bargain shopping for a Sean Miller. But that’s difficult to justify as a move for next year. Would take a few years for the stain to wash off a guy like Miller

The Pitt hoops insiders board has been having conversations about getting Geno.

 

[whaler11]

I’ll take KO over a cheating scumbag coach everyday of the week, even if it means just being an average team. Play by the rules and graduate the players and I’m fine.

Come on - I can do that.

You’d be happy with me as head coach?

 

[superjohn]

The Pitt hoops insiders board has been having conversations about getting Geno.

What? He would be an idiot to do that.

 

[UConnDan97]

Come on - I can do that.

You’d be happy with me as head coach?

It depends. Do you have a blaze strategy?

 

[storrsroars]

What? He would be an idiot to do that.

Their logic is:
- program is undisciplined
- program has fallen off where they likely can't attract/pay a top-level D1 men's coach
- what are other options for instilling discipline and winning...

Not suggesting Geno would be interested. Only pointing out Pitt hoops fans have an active thread on it.

 

[imno1]

The Pitt hoops insiders board has been having conversations about getting Geno.

If Geno leaves UConn, he’s only doing that for one job and it ain’t Pitt

 

[nyhuskies13]

Mark Emmert, thinking of his possible statements about Arizona considers Captain Renault's:

"I'm shocked, SHOCKED, to find that gambling is going on in here"
or

"Round up the usual suspects"

but decides on:

First and foremost, that's a decision the school has to make," Emmert said in an interview on CBS.

Crazy you can't make this stuff up.

ps I'm hitting the bottle - (so mods) lets hope I don't get another profanity notice. Please observe that I said "stuff" in the above statement - your "rehabilitation" program appears to be working .... x!$$&!

Emmert leaving the decision up to the schools is a smart move. If the NCAA decided Ayton was ineligible and ruled that way immediately, the rest of the country would play on since they could argue they weren’t specifically called out by the NCAA.

It’s basically saying, ‘if there’s any shot you broke the rules, you better sit a player or force a coach to take a leave. We’ll find out sooner or later and hand out harsh punishment if you broke the rules and did nothing. Would expect schools to treat this pretty conservatively and sit guys with even smoke surrounding their name.

But only time will tell.

 

[Stainmaster]

Then cheer for the debate team. Some of us care about winning at basketball.

How many years are you giving Hurley to bring the program back to a level that would satisfy you?

 

[UC313]

The Pitt hoops insiders board has been having conversations about getting Geno.

Linky? Id love a good giggle.

 

[storrsroars]

Linky? Id love a good giggle.

Insider's board is paid. I only know what's happening there because my wife is a Pitt alum and has a membership.

Btw, the actual decision makers at Pitt seem to believe they can compete for Danny Hurley. Fans think Hurley will have many better options.

 

[UC313]

How many years are you giving Hurley to bring the program back to a level that would satisfy you?

He'll get 3 and some will call for his head midway through year 2.

Imo we need to be top 20 in 4 years and talk of contending for a banner in year 5 if weve got any shot at a P5. Scary.

 

[Stainmaster]

He'll get 3 and some will call for his head midway through year 2.

Imo we need to be top 20 in 4 years and talk of contending for a banner in year 5 if weve got any shot at a P5. Scary.

Here’s hoping that AD Dave can hold strong on keeping the buyout down.

Then again, given his egregious failure to do that in November of 2016, that seems like wishful thinking.

 

[UC313]

Ive kinda felt like ollie and diacos extensions were to show the big 12 stability just prior to all that talk of adding teams.

 

[3rdbass]

He'll get 3 and some will call for his head midway through year 2.

Imo we need to be top 20 in 4 years and talk of contending for a banner in year 5 if weve got any shot at a P5. Scary.

Contending for a banner like the Gonzaga’s of the world is probably our ceiling. I don’t think any coach is going to get us to where we were before considering our conference affiliation. People need to set reasonable expectations. We can at least be in the top 3 of this conference every year with a good coach.

 

[KingAG]

How many years are you giving Hurley to bring the program back to a level that would satisfy you?

I guarantee after 2 years with Hurley we’ll at least be competitive. Ppl just don’t want to suck. That’s all most are asking for

 

[Stainmaster]

Ppl just don’t want to suck. That’s all most are asking for

You’re very wrong.

 

[KingAG]

You’re very wrong.

You’re the only one I see mentioning these expectations. No one else is saying they expect consistent dominance. That’s something you made up

 

[UC313]

Its all eyes on 2023. Dont get it twisted.

 

[Stinger92860]

Ollie cheated. He has cheated us out of the last 2 seasons. He has cheated the players he does not develop. He cheated UConn out of money. Don’t you feel cheated?

 

[Stinger92860]

Ive kinda felt like ollie and diacos extensions were to show the big 12 stability just prior to all that talk of adding teams.

Well how scalitoing stupid was that.

 

[UC313]

Well how scalitoing stupid was that.

No disagreement there. Swing and a miss #38 in our conference realignment nightmare.

 

[whaler11]

It depends. Do you have a blaze strategy?

Yeah I make a crummy pizza and text a picture to throatboy.

 

[AdamaNation]

You’re very wrong.

Agree. He better have us in the second weekend next year with a top 15 class asap or it’s a waste and a failure.

 

[Scrutineer]

Dude, no one said he’s a paragon of virtue.

And everyone recognizes how bad he’s been and deserves to be shown the door.

If your opinion is that given how horrendous he’s been to the program and given how we are under investigation ourselves, which you presume is as bad as the payment scandal, he should be shown the door regardless of what happens in the general scope of college basketball, then just state that.

Responding with “this thread is a show” and nothing else is a “ show contribution”.

Hate when posters respond, “that’s the dumbest thing I ever hear”. “You’re an idiot” “people here have lost it”. Just write a counter response and move on.

Can’t people have meaningful conversations and write what they think without personal attacks and while offering some basis of thought

Good point.