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polycom said:
For the people who were calling GM a snake you look ridiculous now. @whaler11 Rule #1 of the NCAA don't lie.
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lol herbst went so far as to say ‘we shouldn’t celebrate’. maybe you don’t know what snakes are?
 
I will enjoy everyone now believing the NCAA because the NCAA is saying what they want to hear.

Normally I don’t believe they are a trusted entity in these parts?
 
bmayuc said:
C'mon. This is a classic easy out for the NCAA. Nail the guy who is no longer an NCAA coach and will not ever again be an NCAA coach. Looks like they are holding accountability but in reality no impact. CLASSIC NCAA.

The argument for paying Ollie his money, btw, is that Ollie is very well regarded by our incredibly important basketball alums, and not coming to a reasonable agreement with Ollie will poison that relationship and cost us much more than some $$ in the long term.
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Ollie isn't owed a dollar and they aren't giving him a dollar. Ollie's own hubris brought everything on himself and he continues to poison the well. I told everyone a long time ago things will not end well for KO, he seems unwilling to change.
 
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Whaler and Ollie think that there was some sort of conspiracy between UConn and the NCAA. The same entity that banned us retroactively for APR shortfalls while allowing other programs commit academic fraud to prop up their APR without penalty, is somehow conspiring with the school to make its case against a fired coach.


Occom's razor, anyone?
 
whaler11 said:
lol herbst went so far as to say ‘we shouldn’t celebrate’. maybe you don’t know what snakes are?
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GM was asked questions by the NCAA he answered them truthfully and now gets to do whatever he wants. If KO did the same thing he wouldn't have a show cause and we'd be paying him $10M.
 
Excalibur said:
Whaler and Ollie think that there was some sort of conspiracy between UConn and the NCAA. The same entity that banned us retroactively for APR shortfalls while allowing other programs commit academic fraud to prop up their APR without penalty, is somehow conspiring with the school to make its case against a fired coach.


Occom's razor, anyone?
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I don’t think there is a consipriacy between UConn and the NCAA.

I think that everyone at UConn and St. Joe’s had common interests and helped each other exact whatever it was they wanted from the situation.

Calhoun and Miller got their revenge, Herbst and DB may get to keep their buyout. They would have been awfully stupid to NOT collaborate their efforts.
 
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polycom said:
GM was asked questions by the NCAA he answered them truthfully and now gets to do whatever he wants. If KO did the same thing he wouldn't have a show cause and we'd be paying him $10M.
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how do you know the rat told the truth? his third person hearsay from his wife is ‘true’?
 
crewbear742 said:
Nice to see this board suddenly considers the NCAA to be a credible ethical source again. It's amazing how self-interest can change one's perspective.
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Even if your dubious belief this entire board actually “... considers the NCAA a credible source ...” was remotely accurate, it still serves as a ruling organization for its’ members, coaches, wannabe again coaches, etc. Regardless of how the departed coach or others feel about his history, after allegedly misrepresenting facts regarding rules compliance he just might of benefitted a little by not blowing off a 2nd meeting with NCAA investigators. Yes, even if that benefit was only a 1 or 2 year show cause versus 3 years. And yes, the unethical NCAA psukks!
 
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polycom said:
If he lied to the NCAA he'd have a show cause. You are smarter than this.
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That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. The NCAA isn’t God. Do you think everyone who has ever lied to the NCAA got a show cause? Stop.
 
crewbear742 said:
Nice to see this board suddenly considers the NCAA to be a credible ethical source again. It's amazing how self-interest can change one's perspective.
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Think about what you are saying. This board generally thinks the NCAA doesn't treat UConn fairly while favoring other schools (where the hell is Arizona's ban?). Ollie is alleging that the NCAA and UConn got together to make all this up to avoid paying him. That the NCAA and UConn are BFFs and this is all some ploy to screw him over.

My take, this was minor stuff and the NCAA treated it as such. Ollie, because he knew he could be fired for cause and lose his money, lied to UConn and to the NCAA. The cover-up, as usual, is much worse than the crime. The man is simply not very bright and shows that over and over.
 
whaler11 said:
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. The NCAA isn’t God. Do you think everyone who has ever lied to the NCAA got a show cause? Stop.
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So you are going to assume that he lied to the NCAA based on what? Yet KO got a show cause and you think that the NCAA is not to be believed and that officials at UConn & St Joes collaborated. What kind of mental gymnastics is this?

Everyone acknowledges the NCAA is a god awful organisation, that doesn't change the fact that they are judge jury and executioner.
 
polycom said:
So you are going to assume that he lied to the NCAA based on what? Yet KO got a show cause and you think that the NCAA is not to be believed and that officials at UConn & St Joes collaborated. What kind of mental gymnastics is this?

Everyone acknowledges the NCAA is a god awful organisation, that doesn't change the fact that they are judge jury and executioner.
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I don’t know if Miller lied. Certainly the crap about what his wife told him sounds like total nonsense.

Your logic is ridiculous - by your logic OJ Simpson didn’t kill his wife because the jury believed him.

The decision the NCAA makes doesn’t impact what the truth is. We don’t know what the truth is.

Sometimes situational ethics work out - sometimes they bite you in the rear.

The people doing mental gymnastics are those who now beleive because the NCAA told them what they wanted to hear they now convey the truth.

I look forward to mocking this in the coming years.
 
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What players did we play that were ineligible and why were they deemed ineligible?
 
I'm glad that these heinous crimes are now being punished by the tireless protector of collegiate athletics, the NCAA. Now that the Kingpins of corruption have been brought to justice, they can move onto lesser crimes like the ones at UNC.
 
AuRevoirAAC said:
UConn recruits had video calls with former UConn legends to educate them on the school.

Meanwhile, there is concrete evidence that dozens of schools, (including Duke, LSU, and Arizona) are actively paying their "student athletes."

The NCAA is a joke of an organization. How can anyone even remotely take them seriously at this point?
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and how is this not something EVERY team with famous players or connections to coaches does? Is it just fine for Drake to be hanging out in the kentucky locker room, because those are players and not recruits?
 
bmayuc said:
C'mon. This is a classic easy out for the NCAA. Nail the guy who is no longer an NCAA coach and will not ever again be an NCAA coach. Looks like they are holding accountability but in reality no impact. CLASSIC NCAA.

The argument for paying Ollie his money, btw, is that Ollie is very well regarded by our incredibly important basketball alums, and not coming to a reasonable agreement with Ollie will poison that relationship and cost us much more than some $$ in the long term.
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He got a friggin show cause for 3 years. And if our former players( many didn’t actually graduate which is the definition of an alumnus) don’t get that this bum ran all they built into the ground I don’t know what to tell them. And current players if they even know who Ray Allen is know him as the guy who played in the NBA Most couldn’t tell you where he went to college if he was wearing UConn gear from head to toe. It is over for Ollie. The AD did the right thing. But just for fun they should offer him his old job back. But make him get approval from the NCAA.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Think about what you are saying. This board generally thinks the NCAA doesn't treat UConn fairly while favoring other schools (where the hell is Arizona's ban?). Ollie is alleging that the NCAA and UConn got together to make all this up to avoid paying him. That the NCAA and UConn are BFFs and this is all some ploy to screw him over.

My take, this was minor stuff and the NCAA treated it as such. Ollie, because he knew he could be fired for cause and lose his money, lied to UConn and to the NCAA. The cover-up, as usual, is much worse than the crime. The man is simply not very bright and shows that over and over.
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I think the resentment on this board against the NCAA is that the NCAA doesn't treat UConn like MBB royalty. That is why I think UNC gets under the skin.

It was little stuff. This board would be raging about any penalties at all - except for the specter of that $10 million buyout. So instead of "The NCAA is so unfair to UConn" you get "Good. This should help with KOs lawsuit."
 
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