NCAA Infractions?

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Nice to see this board suddenly considers the NCAA to be a credible ethical source again. It's amazing how self-interest can change one's perspective.

Even if your dubious belief this entire board actually “... considers the NCAA a credible source ...” was remotely accurate, it still serves as a ruling organization for its’ members, coaches, wannabe again coaches, etc. Regardless of how the departed coach or others feel about his history, after allegedly misrepresenting facts regarding rules compliance he just might of benefitted a little by not blowing off a 2nd meeting with NCAA investigators. Yes, even if that benefit was only a 1 or 2 year show cause versus 3 years. And yes, the unethical NCAA psukks!

 

[Purple Stein]

Hope KO finds a job on an NBA bench where he can be happy and successful. It’s time to move on, and the show cause may be the best thing for him.

 

[polycom]

how do you know the rat told the truth? his third person hearsay from his wife is ‘true’?

If he lied to the NCAA he'd have a show cause. You are smarter than this.

 

[whaler11]

If he lied to the NCAA he'd have a show cause. You are smarter than this.

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. The NCAA isn’t God. Do you think everyone who has ever lied to the NCAA got a show cause? Stop.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Nice to see this board suddenly considers the NCAA to be a credible ethical source again. It's amazing how self-interest can change one's perspective.

Think about what you are saying. This board generally thinks the NCAA doesn't treat UConn fairly while favoring other schools (where the hell is Arizona's ban?). Ollie is alleging that the NCAA and UConn got together to make all this up to avoid paying him. That the NCAA and UConn are BFFs and this is all some ploy to screw him over.

My take, this was minor stuff and the NCAA treated it as such. Ollie, because he knew he could be fired for cause and lose his money, lied to UConn and to the NCAA. The cover-up, as usual, is much worse than the crime. The man is simply not very bright and shows that over and over.

 

[polycom]

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. The NCAA isn’t God. Do you think everyone who has ever lied to the NCAA got a show cause? Stop.

So you are going to assume that he lied to the NCAA based on what? Yet KO got a show cause and you think that the NCAA is not to be believed and that officials at UConn & St Joes collaborated. What kind of mental gymnastics is this?

Everyone acknowledges the NCAA is a god awful organisation, that doesn't change the fact that they are judge jury and executioner.

 

[Dooooooomed]

I hate the NCAA 364 days a year. Today is my cheat day.

 

[whaler11]

So you are going to assume that he lied to the NCAA based on what? Yet KO got a show cause and you think that the NCAA is not to be believed and that officials at UConn & St Joes collaborated. What kind of mental gymnastics is this?

Everyone acknowledges the NCAA is a god awful organisation, that doesn't change the fact that they are judge jury and executioner.

I don’t know if Miller lied. Certainly the crap about what his wife told him sounds like total nonsense.

Your logic is ridiculous - by your logic OJ Simpson didn’t kill his wife because the jury believed him.

The decision the NCAA makes doesn’t impact what the truth is. We don’t know what the truth is.

Sometimes situational ethics work out - sometimes they bite you in the rear.

The people doing mental gymnastics are those who now beleive because the NCAA told them what they wanted to hear they now convey the truth.

I look forward to mocking this in the coming years.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Nice to see this board suddenly considers the NCAA to be a credible ethical source again. It's amazing how self-interest can change one's perspective.

No one thinks this at all lol

 

[HooperScooper]

LOL. Awesome.

That was the first thing I thought when I read that. Can UConn just vacate those entire 2 seasons and we can just pretend they never happened?

 

[Ricker]

What players did we play that were ineligible and why were they deemed ineligible?

 

[John]

I'm glad that these heinous crimes are now being punished by the tireless protector of collegiate athletics, the NCAA. Now that the Kingpins of corruption have been brought to justice, they can move onto lesser crimes like the ones at UNC.

 

[Kembacity]

UConn recruits had video calls with former UConn legends to educate them on the school.

Meanwhile, there is concrete evidence that dozens of schools, (including Duke, LSU, and Arizona) are actively paying their "student athletes."

The NCAA is a joke of an organization. How can anyone even remotely take them seriously at this point?

and how is this not something EVERY team with famous players or connections to coaches does? Is it just fine for Drake to be hanging out in the kentucky locker room, because those are players and not recruits?

 

[freescooter]

C'mon. This is a classic easy out for the NCAA. Nail the guy who is no longer an NCAA coach and will not ever again be an NCAA coach. Looks like they are holding accountability but in reality no impact. CLASSIC NCAA.

The argument for paying Ollie his money, btw, is that Ollie is very well regarded by our incredibly important basketball alums, and not coming to a reasonable agreement with Ollie will poison that relationship and cost us much more than some $$ in the long term.

He got a friggin show cause for 3 years. And if our former players( many didn’t actually graduate which is the definition of an alumnus) don’t get that this bum ran all they built into the ground I don’t know what to tell them. And current players if they even know who Ray Allen is know him as the guy who played in the NBA Most couldn’t tell you where he went to college if he was wearing UConn gear from head to toe. It is over for Ollie. The AD did the right thing. But just for fun they should offer him his old job back. But make him get approval from the NCAA.

 

[crewbear742]

Think about what you are saying. This board generally thinks the NCAA doesn't treat UConn fairly while favoring other schools (where the hell is Arizona's ban?). Ollie is alleging that the NCAA and UConn got together to make all this up to avoid paying him. That the NCAA and UConn are BFFs and this is all some ploy to screw him over.

My take, this was minor stuff and the NCAA treated it as such. Ollie, because he knew he could be fired for cause and lose his money, lied to UConn and to the NCAA. The cover-up, as usual, is much worse than the crime. The man is simply not very bright and shows that over and over.

I think the resentment on this board against the NCAA is that the NCAA doesn't treat UConn like MBB royalty. That is why I think UNC gets under the skin.

It was little stuff. This board would be raging about any penalties at all - except for the specter of that $10 million buyout. So instead of "The NCAA is so unfair to UConn" you get "Good. This should help with KOs lawsuit."

 

[CL82]

C'mon. This is a classic easy out for the NCAA. Nail the guy who is no longer an NCAA coach and will not ever again be an NCAA coach. Looks like they are holding accountability but in reality no impact. CLASSIC NCAA.

The argument for paying Ollie his money, btw, is that Ollie is very well regarded by our incredibly important basketball alums, and not coming to a reasonable agreement with Ollie will poison that relationship and cost us much more than some $$ in the long term.

Does that sound a little like an extortion threat to anyone else?

 

[Dean Wormer]

I don’t know if Miller lied. Certainly the crap about what his wife told him sounds like total nonsense.

Your logic is ridiculous - by your logic OJ Simpson didn’t kill his wife because the jury believed him.

The decision the NCAA makes doesn’t impact what the truth is. We don’t know what the truth is.

Sometimes situational ethics work out - sometimes they bite you in the rear.

The people doing mental gymnastics are those who now beleive because the NCAA told them what they wanted to hear they now convey the truth.

I look forward to mocking this in the coming years.

We can all agree that the ncaa is a bogus excuse for an organization, but I’m not sure this totally ends the KO chapter of our nightmare.
The smart thing to do would be to find a common middle ground settlement of $4-$6 million, and end this circus quickly.
This ruling isn’t vindication for UConn, and court and legal standards might be different. Hopefully both sides will compromise, come to an agreement, and shut this embarrassment down once and for all.

 

[Dogdeacon]

I look forward to mocking this in the coming years.

Why don't you wait until there is a single occurence that doesn't incriminate the former coach's actions and accept the current reality? Your perception of the truth might differ, but the reality of the situation (fired, violations, penalties, probation, show cause) and all of the outcomes are incontrovertible.

 

[Guapo]

I don’t know if Miller lied. Certainly the crap about what his wife told him sounds like total nonsense.

Your logic is ridiculous - by your logic OJ Simpson didn’t kill his wife because the jury believed him.

The decision the NCAA makes doesn’t impact what the truth is. We don’t know what the truth is.

Sometimes situational ethics work out - sometimes they bite you in the rear.

The people doing mental gymnastics are those who now beleive because the NCAA told them what they wanted to hear they now convey the truth.

I look forward to mocking this in the coming years.

I think all 3 of these things can be true at once:

1) the NCAA is an awful, terrible, no good organization.

2) UConn has generally handled this terribly and has treated Ollie horribly

3) Ollie broke the contract that he signed. Was the language of the contract vague? Yes. However, no one forced Ollie to agree to that language in that contract. That is on Ollie and his representation.

 

[CL82]

Means don't screw up again during this time period or you're really screwed.

Just look at Louisville...

 

[CL82]

LOL. Awesome.

The losses too?

 

[Dogdeacon]

We can all agree that the ncaa is a bogus excuse for an organization, but I’m not sure this totally ends the KO chapter of our nightmare.
The smart thing to do would be to find a common middle ground settlement of $4-$6 million, and end this circus quickly.
This ruling isn’t vindication for UConn, and court and legal standards might be different. Hopefully both sides will compromise, come to an agreement, and shut this embarrassment down once and for all.

What?! Pay 4-6MM for exactly what benefit? Certainly not the benefit of the contract aka bargain to coach the team & run the program diligently and comply by the rules.
A guy did his job so poorly that he got the University and himself penalties, why should he be PAID for that?
If anything UConn should sue this mf for the pay he took while he wasn't doing his job. The former coach was really fortunate to keep his job for as long as he did and was overpaid for the time he didn't diligently do his job. Honestly this is insane.
The circus left UConn with him and his sides' almost incomprehensible stubbornness in this losing battle is only an embarrassment in so much as the former coach was ever employed at UConn. Ever since he was fired, the persistent legal strategy ONLY made sense if they all knew he would never coach again and committed violations BUT by creating a PR 'circus' or embarrassing the University there exists a possibility to extort some money.

 

[Psolo12]

Seems a bit redundant. The NCAA vacated the two seasons I had already vacated in my mind.

 

[superjohn]

What?! Pay 4-6MM for exactly what benefit? Certainly not the benefit of the contract aka bargain to coach the team & run the program diligently and comply by the rules.
A guy did his job so poorly that he got the University and himself penalties, why should he be PAID for that?
If anything UConn should sue this mf for the pay he took while he wasn't doing his job. The former coach was really fortunate to keep his job for as long as he did and was overpaid for the time he didn't diligently do his job. Honestly this is insane.
The circus left UConn with him and his sides' almost incomprehensible stubbornness in this losing battle is only an embarrassment in so much as the former coach was ever employed at UConn. Ever since he was fired, the persistent legal strategy ONLY made sense if they all knew he would never coach again and committed violations BUT by creating a PR 'circus' or embarrassing the University there exists a possibility to extort some money.

Pay him now, yeah okay that makes a ton of sense...

 

[CL82]

The smart thing to do would be to find a common middle ground settlement of $4-$6 million, and end this circus quickly.

Lol, any member of the school who agreed to that at this point should be summarily discharged. It wasn't worth that day one. It certainly isn't now.