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NCAA approves Shepard ND waiver

dogged1 said:
If I may suggest, change "the vast majority of its members" to "the vast majority of the privileged, elite, members". We are not part of that group.
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Yes, I was really talking about P-5 schools. Everyone else is just hoping for the table scraps that are thrown their way.
 
HGN said:
Wow..I guess that quote says it all. If you decide that , you the player , made a bad initial choice you can just push the RE-DUE button and go someplace else.
It's going to be interesting to see when , and to whom , the NCAA ever denies a transfer waiver request again.
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It's most likely the same rationale
for transferring that Stevens had, but Stevens sat a year.

Either the NCAA doesn't really do enough research to get these things right or they didn't really care and it was about helping out ND with their injury situation. Anybody know for sure? Most egregious approval that I'm aware of.
 
nwhoopfan said:
IIRC Romeo didn't have to sit out a year after transferring from Nebraska to Washington, although I think they did have to wait til the 11th hour to find out if she would be eligible. Maybe it's just a Nebraska thing. Although Chandler Smith did sit out a year after transferring from Nebraska after the '14-'15 season to Gonzaga.

Slocum should have requested a waiver after transferring from Maryland to Oregon St. Her stated reason for a waiver could have been "the Beavers really need a replacement for Wiese this year."
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Nebraska, at the time Romeo transferred, had just gone through the turmoil of the accusations of abusive treatment against Connie Yori and her forced resignation. I suspect (though I don't know for sure) that the NCAA is more lenient on transfer requests when there's been a coaching change. I can't help but wonder if Shepard's waiver request, though one year removed from Yori's departure, was viewed through this lens.
 
Orangutan said:
Have you considered having a better football program?
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Yeah, clearly that's what got Boston College into the P5 cartel.
 
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Shades said:
It's most likely the same rationale
for transferring that Stevens had, but Stevens sat a year.

Either the NCAA doesn't really do enough research to get these things right or they didn't really care and it was about helping out ND with their injury situation. Anybody know for sure? Most egregious approval that I'm aware of.
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We don't know what was in her waiver request. She said it was "personal reasons". I could imagine certain situations that might justify a waiver but she would not want to make public.

I just don't know how you can say it's "egregious" when you don't know what was in the request.

They did enough research that they made ND submit a second round of paperwork before making the final decision.
 
Plebe said:
Yeah, clearly that's what got Boston College into the P5 cartel.
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Naw, that was a Catholic conspiracy (and the Boston media market)
 
Orangutan said:
Have you considered having a better football program?
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UConn did consider having a better football program. In fact, the UConn football program was once pretty good. It was good enough to beat a certain team in a certain stadium in a certain small town in northwest Indiana. Then, after appearing in the Fiesta Bowl, UConn's coach left for a new job. Unfortunately, two UConn Athletic Directors made bad hiring decisions, the worst of which was to hire a clown who wore red pants and formerly coached at Notre Dame. UConn is in the midst of recovering from the Diaco Debacle and who knows if it ever will. Thanks for asking!
 
Shorty Dee said:
Notre Dame still won't beat UConn, especially with Shepard, she disappears against UConn. Good luck Muffet....keep relying on your 1 to 3 players, and your transfers (Arike, Marina, Jackie, LiLi and Shepard).
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The good news for ND is that Shepard is eligible to play this year. The bad news is that she will have another opportunity to match up with Gabby who held her to 1 for 13 shooting last season in Lincoln.
 
Orangutan said:
Have you considered having a better football program?
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We would, but killing kids video taping practice in high winds, letting players rape women at other schools, and inventing fake girlfriends w/can-cer just isn't our thing.
 
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Plebe said:
Nebraska, at the time Romeo transferred, had just gone through the turmoil of the accusations of abusive treatment against Connie Yori and her forced resignation. I suspect (though I don't know for sure) that the NCAA is more lenient on transfer requests when there's been a coaching change. I can't help but wonder if Shepard's waiver request, though one year removed from Yori's departure, was viewed through this lens.
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Plebe: I'm pretty much thinking the same way, although I might refer to it as "program uncertainty." In the case of Nebraska, you had the Yori "resignation," which resulted in Romeo transferring immediately, two top recruits de-committing and going elsewhere (Cal and Iowa, if memory serves correct) and then Shepard leaving, after playing for the new coach for one year.

Chatrice White left Illinois following a season after now-departed Matt Bollant's program was hit with racial discrimination charges and lawsuits. Other players had left the program and White was clearly the best player (left) in the program.

Still, her father told the Chicago Tribune that "...she had no negative experience at Illinois but is seeking a program in which she can develop her skills further and find more team success."
That sounds similar to what Ms. Shepard has publicly said.

Romeo, White and Shepard all have these unstable situations in common and the NCAA does check back with the school the players transferred from, so Nebraska and Illinois weighed in on these petitions. Outside of that, the particulars are private...
 
oldude said:
The good news for ND is that Shepard is eligible to play this year. The bad news is that she will have another opportunity to match up with Gabby who held her to 1 for 13 shooting last season in Lincoln.
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Old Dude...you're absolutely spot on about the trouble Gabby caused for Shepard during the UConn-Nebraska game. One of the main benefits Ms. Shepard now has at ND is she is not the first and second option, time and again, for the offense, which allows a spectacular defender like Gabby to hone in on.

She'll be part of an overall offense that has other options. Who even knows if those two will match up this time around?

In any case, I look forward to the game and the match-ups that take place.
 
Dillon77 said:
Old Dude...you're absolutely spot on about the trouble Gabby caused for Shepard during the UConn-Nebraska game. One of the main benefits Ms. Shepard now has at ND is she is not the first and second option, time and again, for the offense, which allows a spectacular defender like Gabby to hone in on.

She'll be part of an overall offense that has other options. Who even knows if those two will match up this time around?

In any case, I look forward to the game and the match-ups that take place.
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No doubt that’s true, but without Turner in the middle, I suspect that the Huskies will dominate in the paint at both ends of the court when the Irish pay a visit to the Nutmeg state this season.
 
Orangutan said:
Have you considered having a better football program?
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Your avatar is befitting a comment like this...sad. :confused: Obviously not a ND grad or at least one they would be proud of. ;)
UConnCat covers the details above, not much more to say to such an ignorant comment. So much for the politeness of the silver spoon people.
Just in case you missed it....
 
Dillon77 said:
Old Dude...you're absolutely spot on about the trouble Gabby caused for Shepard during the UConn-Nebraska game. One of the main benefits Ms. Shepard now has at ND is she is not the first and second option, time and again, for the offense, which allows a spectacular defender like Gabby to hone in on.
She'll be part of an overall offense that has other options. Who even knows if those two will match up this time around?
In any case, I look forward to the game and the match-ups that take place.
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That explanation rings a little hollow because Gabby also beasted Brianna Turner last year who was also "part of an overall offense for ND" .
 
Woof 101 said:
Your avatar is befitting a comment like this...sad. :confused: Obviously not a ND grad or at least one they would be proud of. ;)
UConnCat covers the details above, not much more to say to such an ignorant comment. So much for the politeness of the silver spoon people.
Just in case you missed it....
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It was a joke. Specifically a joke about the how the NCAA is warped by the influence of football and the revenue it produces.

The joke is -- Have a dominant football team and you too can get preferential treatment from the NCAA!

Clearly not a very good joke given that no one thought it was funny and three people took issue with it.

My personal rule for posting here is to never deliberately antagonize UConn fans. But occasionally one slips through as is the case with that post.
 
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Orangutan said:
It was a joke. Specifically a joke about the how the NCAA is warped by the influence of football and the revenue it produces.

The joke is -- Have a dominant football team and you too can get preferential treatment from the NCAA!

Clearly not a very good joke given that no one thought it was funny and three people took issue with it.

My personal rule for posting here is to never deliberately antagonize UConn fans. But occasionally one slips through as is the case with that post.
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Three might be a low estimate. :eek:
 
Orangutan said:
It was a joke. Specifically a joke about the how the NCAA is warped by the influence of football and the revenue it produces.

The joke is -- Have a dominant football team and you too can get preferential treatment from the NCAA!

Clearly not a very good joke given that no one thought it was funny and three people took issue with it.

My personal rule for posting here is to never deliberately antagonize UConn fans. But occasionally one slips through as is the case with that post.
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I got the joke. Not your best work, but the effort is always appreciated. For those that didn’t get it, next time I suggest attaching a smiley faced emoji...:)
 
CocoHusky said:
That explanation rings a little hollow because Gabby also beasted Brianna Turner last year who was also "part of an overall offense for ND" .
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I distinctly remember giving credit where credit was due last year when UConn won, 72-61, in particular to Gabby and Napheesa Collier, who scored 20 points on 7 of 9 shooting in 29 minutes. Gabby had a solid game as well, with 19 points and 12 rebounds. I've attached the pdf of the stats for review.

However, I wouldn't say that Gabby "beasted" Brianna per se, who led the Irish with 16 points (on 7 of 14 shooting) and 12 rebounds as well.

What Gabby and her teammates did very well last year was shut down everyone besides Turner and Lindsay Allen, in particular Mabrey and Ogunbowale. I distinctly remember GW swatting away some drives from the weakside.

So, Coco, if your're going to strut, get it right: she beasted most of the team. Hrrumph.:mad::rolleyes:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools...o_pdf/2016-17/box_score/stats_20161208aaa.pdf

BTW, since Turner or Allen isn't here this year, this could either be one of those"OMG" events for the Irish or a fresh (re) start. I'll go with the latter until a later date. ;)
 
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oldude said:
No doubt that’s true, but without Turner in the middle, I suspect that the Huskies will dominate in the paint at both ends of the court when the Irish pay a visit to the Nutmeg state this season.
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Based on last year's game and statistics (see my reply to Coco), you could very well be right, particularly if Ms. Westbeld does not return from her injury as quickly as needed (for that game). However, we got a nice performance from our 6'3" (but looks taller) frosh center, Mik Vaughn, in an exhibition yesterday (30 points). Like your exhibition, it was against a team that shouldn't of been there, but she looked good. We'll see how that plays out in the first few games. Look forward to the match-up!:)
 
BT crying.jpg

Gabby making Brianna Turner cry.
 
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Orangutan said:
It was a joke. Specifically a joke about the how the NCAA is warped by the influence of football and the revenue it produces.

The joke is -- Have a dominant football team and you too can get preferential treatment from the NCAA!

Clearly not a very good joke given that no one thought it was funny and three people took issue with it.

My personal rule for posting here is to never deliberately antagonize UConn fans. But occasionally one slips through as is the case with that post.
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Unfortunately, UConn fans don't have much of a sense of humor when it comes to football, particularly coming from a Notre Dame fan. Fans here wish the fraud in the cranberry pants had never left South Bend.
 
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Wow this thread got excessively lengthy when you consider that she won’t make much of a difference against UCONN.
 
UConnCat said:
Unfortunately, UConn fans don't have much of a sense of humor when it comes to football, particularly coming from a Notre Dame fan. Fans here wish the fraud in the cranberry pants had never left South Bend.
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Whenever a ND fan brings up the subject of football, all you have to do is bring up the subject of fake girlfriends—all in good fun, of course.
 
UConnCat said:
Unfortunately, UConn fans don't have much of a sense of humor when it comes to football, particularly coming from a Notre Dame fan. Fans here wish the fraud in the cranberry pants had never left South Bend.
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For quite some time, Irish fans probably agreed with you. As you (probably) recall, Diaco arrived in South Bend in 2010 with Brian Kelly. When Diaco was defensive coordinator in 2012, Notre Dame finished the year ranked 2nd in points per game (12.8) and he was awarded the Broyles Award, which recognizes the top assistant coach in collegiate D1 Football. He probably should've stayed there for all concerned in Connecticut ... and Indiana.

When Diaco left, he was replaced by another friend of Kelly, Brian Van Gorder, who set new lows in how to approach coaching defense at a collegiate level. He was fired halfway through last season. And it looks like Diaco and his red pants are not going to last much beyond this season at Nebraska, where the Cornhuskers are not exactly ripping it up.
 
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Let's have a little fun!

ND trade Diaco, via UConn, to Nebraska for Sheppard. Not sure either got a good deal.
 
Orangutan said:
It was a joke. Specifically a joke about the how the NCAA is warped by the influence of football and the revenue it produces.

The joke is -- Have a dominant football team and you too can get preferential treatment from the NCAA!

Clearly not a very good joke given that no one thought it was funny and three people took issue with it.

My personal rule for posting here is to never deliberately antagonize UConn fans. But occasionally one slips through as is the case with that post.
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I didn't read your original reply to my post until today. When I did, I too was offended and ready to reply ala Cat and Woof . Glad I held off to read the post above, thanks for the clarification, it does fit your boneyard personality. I've never seen you deliberately offensive before. ;)
 
UConnCat said:
Unfortunately, UConn fans don't have much of a sense of humor when it comes to football, particularly coming from a Notre Dame fan. Fans here wish the fraud in the cranberry pants had never left South Bend.
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