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the Q said:
2017 cavs vs the 96 bulls.

sinxe that’s the Lebron team that beat Boston (not sure why that matters) and Lebron and Jordan were the same age for those seasons.
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Ok Bulls get the home court and the format is 2-2-1-1-1.
 
Game 1 @ Chicago

Bulls win game 1 98-87
Lebron 21 pts, Jordan 33 15/25 shooting, Bulls lead 1-0.

Game 2 @ Chicago

Bulls win 99-92, lead 2-0
Lebron 28, 5, and 9, 10-17 fg
Jordan 30 pts 13 reb, 12-26 fg
Rodman 6 pts 24 reb
Pippen 24,5 and 6, 10-13 fg

Bulls won 4th quarter 34-21

Game 3 @ Cleveland

Cavs win 118-109, 2-1 Bulls

Jordan 32 pts, 8 reb, 7 assist, 2 blk, 3 steals
Lebron 16, 14, and 12

Game 4 @ Cleveland

Bulls win 124-118, 3-1 Bulls

Lebron 43, 7 and 8
Jordan 23, 13, and 8
Pippen 29, 6 and 6
Jack Haley had 8 pts in 5 minutes

Cavs had a 48-30 1st quarter, Bulls won the 4th quarter 40-20

Game 5 @ Chicago

Bulls win 112-97, win series 4-1
Lebron 17, 8, and 9
Jordan 22 pts, 2 blks, 4 stls

Bulls won 3rd quarter 19-6
 
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Scoe said:
Game 1 @ Chicago

Bulls win game 1 98-87
Lebron 21 pts, Jordan 33 15/25 shooting, Bulls lead 1-0.

Game 2 @ Chicago

Bulls win 99-92, lead 2-0
Lebron 28, 5, and 9, 10-17 fg
Jordan 30 pts 13 reb, 12-26 fg
Rodman 6 pts 24 reb
Pippen 24,5 and 6, 10-13 fg

Bulls won 4th quarter 34-21

Game 3 @ Cleveland

Cavs win 118-109, 2-1 Bulls

Jordan 32 pts, 8 reb, 7 assist, 2 blk, 3 steals
Lebron 16, 14, and 12

Game 4 @ Cleveland

Bulls win 124-118, 3-1 Bulls

Lebron 43, 7 and 8
Jordan 23, 13, and 8
Pippen 29, 6 and 6
Jack Haley had 8 pts in 5 minutes

Cavs had a 48-30 1st quarter, Bulls won the 4th quarter 40-20

Game 5 @ Chicago

Bulls win 112-97, win series 4-1
Lebron 17, 8, and 9
Jordan 22 pts, 2 blks, 4 stls

Bulls won 3rd quarter 19-6
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maybe do 2016 cavs now? Not the same age but best team vs best team.
 
96 Bulls vs 16 Cavs

Game 1 Cavs @ Bulls

Bulls win 108-92, Bulls lead 1-0
Lebron 22,7, and 8, 8-22 fg
Jordan 25, 9, and 7, 10-20 fg
Pippen 23, 11, and 6
Kerr 19 pts, 5-6 from 3 in 18 minutes
 
Game 2 Cavs @ Bulls

Bulls win 114-82, lead 2-0, won every quarter.

Lebron 15,11 and 7, 5/12 fg
Jordan 33 pts, 11 reb, 7 assists, 2 steals
Pippen 23, 14 and 5
Harper 19 pts
 
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Game 3 Bulls @ Cavs

Bulls win 121-90, lead 3-0

Lebron 27 pts, 13 and 5
Jordan 36 and 10, 3-4 from 3, 13/29 fg
 
Game 4 Bulls @ Cavs

Cavs win 103-86, 3-1 Bulls

Jordan 21 pts
Lebron 29, 6, and 8
Love 22 and 16, 8/13 fg, 6-8 from 3
 
Game 5 Cavs @ Bulls

Bulls win 112-105, win series 4-1

Lebron 23, 8 and 5, 3-4 fts
Kyrie 25 and 6 assists
Jordan 38 pts, 13-30 fg, 11-13 fts
Pippen 17, 7, and 9
Rodman 11 pts, 20 reb
Kukoc 20 pts, 9-13 fg

No way was MJ not closing this one out at home, he demanded Phil to play the entire 4th saying I'm emptying my tank tonight, he demanded the ball and told Kukoc to step the up and he would find him.
 
Ratso said:
lakers suck and lebron sucks....

jordan is the greatest why? loyalty
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“Loyalty” lol okay boomer, who forced LBJ back to Cleveland to deliver the title he promised to his city?
 
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Butch said:
Didn't the Bucks also lose to this Heat team?
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Giannis did
Butch said:
MJ never got to be a GM till he bought a team.
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This is actually an excellent point @superjohn LBJ for all his shortcoming-straws you grasp for, as bad a “GM” LBJ has been as you claim, he’s still way more successful managing a team than MJ has lmao
 
Rocktheworld said:
Giannis did

This is actually an excellent point @superjohn LBJ for all his shortcoming-straws you grasp for, as bad a “GM” LBJ has been as you claim, he’s still way more successful managing a team than MJ has lmao
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I will say that Charlotte roster is worse than an expansion team.

It’s impossibly bad.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Giannis did

This is actually an excellent point @superjohn LBJ for all his shortcoming-straws you grasp for, as bad a “GM” LBJ has been as you claim, he’s still way more successful managing a team than MJ has lmao
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Jerry Krause was a nasty GM who put together nasty teams with MJ as the centerpiece. LeBron is a travelling franchise who put his trust in JR Smith.

LeBron can attract free agents, the Hornets can't, so far. With the way Charlotte is growing, that can change.
 
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UConn990411 said:
It’s astounding watching the Lakers take 3.5 minutes to figure out this Miami zone. It took Brad Stevens 3.5 games to do the same.
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Much easier when you're passing over Olynyk instead of Adebayo. Also easier when you have Anthony Davis on the baseline to dunk instead of Daniel Theis.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Actually the numbers are extremely close if not in LBJ’s favor, depending on how the given “clutch” stat is defined

And LMAO please tell me what my “motivation” is
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"The pure hate of LBJ as a person."

Why do people "hate" Lebron as a "person"?

And I missed this gem:

"Blinding you to the fact that LBJ is 50 pounds lighter and 6 inches shorter than Shaq but is reffed the same."

Shaq committed an offensive foul in the majority of times he backed someone down in the post. Not a real good comparison.
 
casual-yardin said:
"The pure hate of LBJ as a person."

Why do people "hate" Lebron as a "person"?

And I missed this gem:

"Blinding you to the fact that LBJ is 50 pounds lighter and 6 inches shorter than Shaq but is reffed the same."

Shaq committed an offensive foul in the majority of times he backed someone down in the post. Not a real good comparison.
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Shaq was fouled on almost literally every possession.
 
auror said:
Much easier when you're passing over Olynyk instead of Adebayo. Also easier when you have Anthony Davis on the baseline to dunk instead of Daniel Theis.
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Literally I was going to say the same thing, but my verbose ass would have typed for 15 minutes.

People think they're brilliant and know more than Brad Stevens, I'm sure he didn't know what to do against the basic zone!
 
MDHuskFan said:
Having Lebron is selling out in any long term success, while getting instant short term results. Literally happened everywhere. To @superjohn point, the guy plays GM on these teams. They end up being at or over cap, required to re-sign players to above market deals using bird rights because you can’t replace them in FA because you’re at cap.
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Who cares
 
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gtcam said:
you must be a youngster
The NBA is now a watered down foul plagued ghost of even 10 years ago
It's mostly kids who couldn't physically or mentally make the teams of the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's
As I said earlier it's like the OBE vs the NBE - men vs boys
The refs of the past would laugh at LeBrons constant belly aching and he would be shown the showers
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Did you actually watch basketball back then?

Let's go by decade:

60's - There were a handful of teams in the League and the sport was getting the third and fourth tier athletes after football and baseball. There were teams with 6'6 centers. The fact that the Celtics could so completely dominate the sport shows it was not that good.

70's - A drug induced mess of a decade from a basketball standpoint. A small talent pool was further diluted by the ABA. Stars were one way players like George Gervin. The NBA Finals were put on tape delay and shown at 11:30 for a reason. The product sucked.

80's - While Bird and Johnson saved the game, it took Stern about 3-4 years to clean up the drug problem. Some of the 70's stars like Kareem, Moses and Dr. J really shined in the 80's. The problem was that a lot of teams didn't play defense. The Denver Nuggets were one of the best teams in the West in the 80's and they literally played no defense at all. If you can find a Dominique Hawks game on classic sports, I recommend you watch it. Dominique will frequently be walking back on defense. Kelly Tripuka once said he would never try to rebound again after spraining his ankle going up for a board.

90's - Expansion diluted the product, and Knicks' Wrestle Ball was brutal to watch. Teams couldn't shoot back then either. Weird rules like Illegal Defense created an awkward game, and there were some strange teams pre-analytics (Knicks with 3 guards, Rivers, Starks, Anthony, that couldn't shoot). Europeans showed up in force and the quality of play improved as the decade progressed.

With the end of the 90's, basketball started to get really good. Euro ball and zone defenses had a really positive effect on the game. The influx of talented foreigners like Duncan, Parker, Ming and Nowitski raised the overall talent level. Coaching got better overall, and the game improved a lot.

We are in the Golden Age of basketball. Enjoy it.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
With the end of the 90's, basketball started to get really good. Euro ball and zone defenses had a really positive effect on the game. The influx of talented foreigners like Duncan, Parker, Ming and Nowitski raised the overall talent level. Coaching got better overall, and the game improved a lot.
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I agree with most of your post but this part is insane. '99-'07 was by far the worst era of NBA basketball. Slow pace and low scoring, way too much isolation, poor efficiency, too much physicality, and most importantly the league was really watered down during this time. It was basically the late 90s with half the talent.

The Eastern Conference was a joke (the Celtics made the playoffs in '04 despite being ten games under .500), too many high school busts, too many AAU-type guys who wanted to try to be the next MJ, the Kings were the only team with a respectable level of ball movement, plus all the great Dream Team era players were gone or in the twilight of their career. The seeds were planted with the foreign movement but it took a long time for it have the major impact it has today. The league is lucky as hell the Shaq/Kobe dynasty happened.

I enjoy the modern NBA despite it's strong "entertainment product" feel and I loved the 90s. The aughts though were so, so bad. All people need to know about the early aughts is that the level of play and the entertainment product (TV ratings went in the toilet) were so alarming that the league was compelled to make the seismic rule changes in 2005 that led to the modern NBA's style of play.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Did you actually watch basketball back then?

Let's go by decade:

60's - There were a handful of teams in the League and the sport was getting the third and fourth tier athletes after football and baseball. There were teams with 6'6 centers. The fact that the Celtics could so completely dominate the sport shows it was not that good.

70's - A drug induced mess of a decade from a basketball standpoint. A small talent pool was further diluted by the ABA. Stars were one way players like George Gervin. The NBA Finals were put on tape delay and shown at 11:30 for a reason. The product sucked.

80's - While Bird and Johnson saved the game, it took Stern about 3-4 years to clean up the drug problem. Some of the 70's stars like Kareem, Moses and Dr. J really shined in the 80's. The problem was that a lot of teams didn't play defense. The Denver Nuggets were one of the best teams in the West in the 80's and they literally played no defense at all. If you can find a Dominique Hawks game on classic sports, I recommend you watch it. Dominique will frequently be walking back on defense. Kelly Tripuka once said he would never try to rebound again after spraining his ankle going up for a board.

90's - Expansion diluted the product, and Knicks' Wrestle Ball was brutal to watch. Teams couldn't shoot back then either. Weird rules like Illegal Defense created an awkward game, and there were some strange teams pre-analytics (Knicks with 3 guards, Rivers, Starks, Anthony, that couldn't shoot). Europeans showed up in force and the quality of play improved as the decade progressed.

With the end of the 90's, basketball started to get really good. Euro ball and zone defenses had a really positive effect on the game. The influx of talented foreigners like Duncan, Parker, Ming and Nowitski raised the overall talent level. Coaching got better overall, and the game improved a lot.

We are in the Golden Age of basketball. Enjoy it.
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But hurr all the players these days durr get to fly hurr on private planes durr and nobody can hand check hurr durr
 
Lefty2one said:
I agree with most of your post but this part is insane. '99-'07 was by far the worst era of NBA basketball. Slow pace and low scoring, way too much isolation, poor efficiency, too much physicality, and most importantly the league was really watered down during this time. It was basically the late 90s with half the talent.

The Eastern Conference was a joke (the Celtics made the playoffs in '04 despite being ten games under .500), too many high school busts, too many AAU-type guys who wanted to try to be the next MJ, the Kings were the only team with a respectable level of ball movement, plus all the great Dream Team era players were gone or in the twilight of their career. The seeds were planted with the foreign movement but it took a long time for it have the major impact it has today. The league is lucky as hell the Shaq/Kobe dynasty happened.

I enjoy the modern NBA despite it's strong "entertainment product" feel and I loved the 90s. The aughts though were so, so bad. All people need to know about the early aughts is that the level of play and the entertainment product (TV ratings went in the toilet) were so alarming that the league was compelled to make the seismic rule changes in 2005 that led to the modern NBA's style of play.
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You would think the "GOAT" could at least clinch a playoff spot during this joke of an era. I guess not.
 
Lefty2one said:
I agree with most of your post but this part is insane. '99-'07 was by far the worst era of NBA basketball. Slow pace and low scoring, way too much isolation, poor efficiency, too much physicality, and most importantly the league was really watered down during this time. It was basically the late 90s with half the talent.

The Eastern Conference was a joke (the Celtics made the playoffs in '04 despite being ten games under .500), too many high school busts, too many AAU-type guys who wanted to try to be the next MJ, the Kings were the only team with a respectable level of ball movement, plus all the great Dream Team era players were gone or in the twilight of their career. The seeds were planted with the foreign movement but it took a long time for it have the major impact it has today. The league is lucky as hell the Shaq/Kobe dynasty happened.

I enjoy the modern NBA despite it's strong "entertainment product" feel and I loved the 90s. The aughts though were so, so bad. All people need to know about the early aughts is that the level of play and the entertainment product (TV ratings went in the toilet) were so alarming that the league was compelled to make the seismic rule changes in 2005 that led to the modern NBA's style of play.
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The rule charges started to stop Shaq. Let’s not kid ourselves.

I miss good post up basketball. The way the game was created to exist.

And those ratings dwarf the trash being put out right now.
 
UofCT2009 said:
You would think the "GOAT" could at least clinch a playoff spot during this joke of an era. I guess not.
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MJ did just dispatch Lebron in 5 games in back to back series on what if sports.
 
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