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aceboon said:
Agree with Simmons on this, and what makes it worse is the refs allow OKC to foul on damn near every possession on the other end.

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OKC was 5th-To-Last in attempted FTs during the season.

They gave up the 4th most defensively.

I think this whole thing is blown out of proportion a bit. SGA this season was 228th all time in free throw attempts, 230th in attempts per game.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
OKC was 5th-To-Last in attempted FTs during the season.

They gave up the 4th most defensively.

I think this whole thing is blown out of proportion a bit. SGA this season was 228th all time in free throw attempts, 230th in attempts per game.
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the point of the tweet was discussing postseason basketball, why are you referencing regular season stats?
 
aceboon said:
Agree with Simmons on this, and what makes it worse is the refs allow OKC to foul on damn near every possession on the other end.

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They sure seem to be getting reffed differently than everyone else, glaringly so IMO. I love the physical play in the playoffs but they're getting away with so much. I kind of wish Jokic launched Caruso into the fifth row last game. He was legitimately hanging on Jokic's arms most of the game.
 
aceboon said:
the point of the tweet was discussing postseason basketball, why are you referencing regular season stats?
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Well it’s been a complaint all season. I think under the microscope people react more. That call on NAW was a bad call, I don’t think anything else was particularly egregious.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
OKC was 5th-To-Last in attempted FTs during the season.

They gave up the 4th most defensively.

I think this whole thing is blown out of proportion a bit. SGA this season was 228th all time in free throw attempts, 230th in attempts per game.
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And maybe more importantly, there doesn't seem to be any sort of abnormal jump in attempts from regular season to playoffs when comparing him to other top players:

SGA - 8.8 FTA in the regular season --> 9.2 FTA in the playoffs

Brunson - 6.9 FTA --> 7.8 FTA

Haliburton - 3.0 FTA --> 3.4 FTA

Murray - 3.7 FTA --> 4.0 FTA

Mitchell - 5.1 FTA --> 9.9 FTA

Tatum - 6.1 FTA --> 6.8 FTA

Brown - 5.1 FTA --> 6.0 FTA

Butler - 7.7 FTA --> 7.3 FTA

Edwards - 6.3 FTA --> 5.8 FTA

His attempts have actually increased at a slightly lesser rate than the average player, so while you'd have to compare usage rates and a handful of other variables to make this a more exact study, you'd think it would show up in this data if he were indeed being officiated differently than everyone else.

Of course, it could just be that, based on my limited research, Edwards is getting a bad whistle, which makes it stand out more when SGA is officiated normally. But I'm more inclined to believe that SGA living at the line is more a result of him settling for threes less than other star players.
 
champs99and04 said:
And maybe more importantly, there doesn't seem to be any sort of abnormal jump in attempts from regular season to playoffs when comparing him to other top players:

SGA - 8.8 FTA in the regular season --> 9.2 FTA in the playoffs

Brunson - 6.9 FTA --> 7.8 FTA

Haliburton - 3.0 FTA --> 3.4 FTA

Murray - 3.7 FTA --> 4.0 FTA

Mitchell - 5.1 FTA --> 9.9 FTA

Tatum - 6.1 FTA --> 6.8 FTA

Brown - 5.1 FTA --> 6.0 FTA

Butler - 7.7 FTA --> 7.3 FTA

Edwards - 6.3 FTA --> 5.8 FTA

His attempts have actually increased at a slightly lesser rate than the average player, so while you'd have to compare usage rates and a handful of other variables to make this a more exact study, you'd think it would show up in this data if he were indeed being officiated differently than everyone else.

Of course, it could just be that, based on my limited research, Edwards is getting a bad whistle, which makes it stand out more when SGA is officiated normally. But I'm more inclined to believe that SGA living at the line is more a result of him settling for threes less than other star players.
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Edwards settles for outside jumpers, just like Tatum. SGA doesn’t take many 3s at all. He certainly baits, I would be dumb to deny that, but it’s part of the game and the Refs call it.

I’ve always been in the state of mind that take it out in the Refs for calling it rather than the player who is taking advantage of it. Change the rules in the offseason, have Silver emphasize it more.

Many fans on twitter run with it, and it’s fun to poke at SGA’s embellishment, but Brunson does it a ton and may even exaggerate the contact more, Luka, Trae, Jokic, etc. It’s really whatever.
 
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Haliburton hit the 3 that wasn't, very reminiscent of Hawkins shot against Creighton.

Nesmith doing his Steph Curry/Ray Allen impression.
 
Damn, Obi got fouled on that, but I have no idea what the hell Robinson was doing on that play
 
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Wow what a game. Nesmith pulled Indy back from the dead in this game. Indy is the basketball version of Rasputin.
 
Knicks completely collapsed so they can only blame themselves, but that is an absolutely brutal and inexcusable missed goaltend that cost the Knicks 5 points
 
Make your fts and don’t turn it over and none of it matters. You never put it in another teams hands or the refs. There has been a lack of focus by the Knicks all year, really shouldn’t be too suprised.
 
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Indiana's ridiculous. They score like a video game.

Knicks were up 119-105 with 2:51 left. Pacers won because Nesmith hit everything he threw in last few minutes. Just absolutely insane.

That game-tying bounce-in by Haliburton was the icing on the cake. Ridiculous.
 
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That's the worst loss I've ever seen in anything. The Pacers scored 20 points in 2.5 minutes. Nesmith hit something like 6 threes in a row. Knicks missed ft's. Haliburton bricks the shot, it goes 8 feet in the air and comes back down through the hoop. It's the Knicks and I'm used to comical s^^^ happening but this one had me in disbelief as it was all unfolding.
 
I tried my best to keep my cool….for my 16 year olds son sake. But this one opened scars. I felt bad for my son as he is too young to have ever had to deal with the Knicks.

I actually prefer if they stay bad…..but I will say this….there better be some hard fouls on Haliburton like real hard fouls.

That should be a technical. You can’t slit your throat choking someone is just as violent. Not a family type gesture but it Indiana they are just the luckiest team I have ever seen. That shot was pure luck and the he does that gesture.
 
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Hunt for 7 said:
I tried my best to keep my cool….for my 16 year olds son sake. But this one opened scars. I felt bad for my son as he is too young to have ever had to deal with the Knicks.

I actually prefer if they stay bad…..but I will say this….there better be some hard fouls on Haliburton like real hard fouls.

That should be a technical. You can’t slit your throat choking someone is just as violent. Not a family type gesture but it Indiana they are just the luckiest team I have ever seen. That shot was pure luck and the he does that gesture.
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I would start PJ Tucker and have him be a goon at Hailburton, John Chaney style but that's just me. Knicks are idiots for giving the Pacers a chance at luck.
 
Hunt for 7 said:
I tried my best to keep my cool….for my 16 year olds son sake. But this one opened scars. I felt bad for my son as he is too young to have ever had to deal with the Knicks.

I actually prefer if they stay bad…..but I will say this….there better be some hard fouls on Haliburton like real hard fouls.

That should be a technical. You can’t slit your throat choking someone is just as violent. Not a family type gesture but it Indiana they are just the luckiest team I have ever seen. That shot was pure luck and the he does that gesture.
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The ball is out of the picture in this shot, it actually went way above the shotclock and bounced in. How high is the top of the shotclock? I've never seen something like that happen at the end of a game. Just absurd.

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Didn't Don Nelson (maybe it was Havlicek) hit an absurd game winner in the Finals on a similar bounce?
 
I got accidentally wrapped up in watching "No No: A Dockumentary," the 2014 Dock Ellis movie. I checked the basketball score twice, saw that the Knicks had opened up a lead, and then grown it to mid-teens, so I kept watching the movie.

Imagine my surprise when I saw it was 124-121 with under a minute left, and I could switch channels to watch the end.

If somebody thought it was a good idea to keep this thread's "NBA first round" title throughout the second round and now into Conference Finals, your mojo's bluff got called.

If you care about the Knicks, open up a new thread or at least change the name of this one.
 
Normally when you blow that kind of lead it's because you completely unravel and start turning it over like crazy. This seemed more like the Pacers getting ridiculously hot and the Knicks making just enough mistakes to open the door.
 
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