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navery12 said:
Did I miss something? I saw he was warming up and hoping to play today
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My buddy texted me and said he was done for the season and now twitter said he's warming up and going to start.

I could see him pulling up lame really quickly, glad he's going to try and play through it for his team though.
 
superjohn said:
My buddy texted me and said he was done for the season and now twitter said he's warming up and going to start.

I could see him pulling up lame really quickly, glad he's going to try and play through it for his team though.
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Yeah, we saw this with OG against the Pacers last year. Even if he plays I doubt he's effective
 
navery12 said:
Yeah, we saw this with OG against the Pacers last year. Even if he plays I doubt he's effective
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Just came to post the same thing, OG looked like he needed assistance just to walk while he was on the court. Grade 2 is insane, Steph had a grade 1 and he wasn't gonna be able to play until Game 6 if it got that far.
 
Nuggets were never going to win this game, but Gordon has 8 points 9 rebounds on a grade 2.
 
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aceboon said:
Non-stop flopping and poor ball security by Jokic all game
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Yeah he didn’t cover himself in glory in this series. Getting kind of locked up by both Jaylin Williams and Alex Caruso at times is a bit bizarre. More turnovers than usual too.

OKC schemed very well against him though.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Yeah he didn’t cover himself in glory in this series. Getting kind of locked up by both Jaylin Williams and Alex Caruso at times is a bit bizarre. More turnovers than usual too.

OKC schemed very well against him though.
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All OKC did was scheme against him. They threw everything else in the trash. It was insane, but it worked.
 
Matrim55 said:


All OKC did was scheme against him. They threw everything else in the trash. It was insane, but it worked.
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Exactly, was a great gameplan. His supporting cast mostly isn’t very good, MPJ besides their Championship season has be a pretty significant playoff faller, and Gordon was obviously hampered at the end. Caruso was so impressive though.
 
So is MN vs OKC the defacto championship or does the Indiana - Knicks winner have a puncher's chance?

Paradoxically, I think Indiana is the better team in the East, but the Knicks would be more fun in the finals.... partially because regardless the West winner likely romps. Both series should be excellent.

My gut is OKC has crossed a major hurdle via knocking out Denver so decisively in a Game 7. Next it take 6-7 games to beat a more experienced MN team w/transcendent Edwards. Yet Shai is in the process of cementing his case as the new best player in the league. Better odds in my view that the Thunder (say ~70%) are the champs vs any (20% MN, 5% each Knicks/Pacers) of the 3 others.
 
Dogdeacon said:
So is MN vs OKC the defacto championship or does the Indiana - Knicks winner have a puncher's chance?

Paradoxically, I think Indiana is the better team in the East, but the Knicks would be more fun in the finals.... partially because regardless the West winner likely romps. Both series should be excellent.

My gut is OKC has crossed a major hurdle via knocking out Denver so decisively in a Game 7. Next it take 6-7 games to beat a more experienced MN team w/transcendent Edwards. Yet Shai is in the process of cementing his case as the new best player in the league. Better odds in my view that the Thunder (say ~70%) are the champs vs any (20% MN, 5% each Knicks/Pacers) of the 3 others.
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From the sound of it you haven't watched much of the NBA this year
 
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Dogdeacon said:
So is MN vs OKC the defacto championship or does the Indiana - Knicks winner have a puncher's chance?

Paradoxically, I think Indiana is the better team in the East, but the Knicks would be more fun in the finals.... partially because regardless the West winner likely romps. Both series should be excellent.

My gut is OKC has crossed a major hurdle via knocking out Denver so decisively in a Game 7. Next it take 6-7 games to beat a more experienced MN team w/transcendent Edwards. Yet Shai is in the process of cementing his case as the new best player in the league. Better odds in my view that the Thunder (say ~70%) are the champs vs any (20% MN, 5% each Knicks/Pacers) of the 3 others.
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OKC is the favorite but those odds you give don't seem based on reality. Any team could win it
 
navery12 said:
From the sound of it you haven't watched much of the NBA this year
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What did he say that’s way off?

I agree about Indiana/NY, and I agree OKC is the major favorite. Minnesota is their strongest test left, so I agree there too.

I’m just genuinely curious what you think.
 
Mr. French said:
What did he say that’s way off?

I agree about Indiana/NY, and I agree OKC is the major favorite. Minnesota is their strongest test left, so I agree there too.

I’m just genuinely curious what you think.
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Indiana is not the better team in the East.

OKC is nowhere close to a 70% favorite to win the title. I'd say they're the slight favorite but I'd say all 4 teams are between 20-30% to win it. They're all very evenly matched and very good teams
 
navery12 said:
From the sound of it you haven't watched much of the NBA this year

OKC is nowhere close to a 70% favorite to win the title. I'd say they're the slight favorite but I'd say all 4 teams are between 20-30% to win it. They're all very evenly matched and very good teams
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See below, you are incorrect on OKC

Re: haven't watched NBA... Specifically why?
I haven't seen a lot of OKC games but I've watched enough esp in playoffs and seen their defense turn it up to a level no one else has. And they are way deeper since Chet (hated him in college, lukewarm on him in NBA) came back with Cason W, Aaron Wiggins and Caruso coming off the bench. Those 3 contribute on both ends and play meaningful minutes and they are still playing 10-11 guys which is unprecedented at this stage of the playoffs (see 2025 Lakers) I hear their coach went to a good school too.

I didn't look before, looking now Current odds are:
OKC -180 ~ 64.29%
MN +600 - 14.29%
NYK +490 - 16.95%
Pacers +800 - 11.11%
I wasn't far off on OKC basically within 5% on 3/4 teams (esp since they don't have totals adding to 100)?!
And the odds reinforce my point that OKC is a better bet than the field.

I'm not high on the Knicks and I'd say part of the betting odds are 'fan' money influencing line. I think with a healthy Tingas Pingas the Celtics KILL the Knicks (admitted I'm a C's fan) and if the Knicks advance I think its just happy to be here time. And the point of my post was that I don't think the east is nearly as good as the West - do you disagree?
 
navery12 said:
Indiana is not the better team in the East.

OKC is nowhere close to a 70% favorite to win the title. I'd say they're the slight favorite but I'd say all 4 teams are between 20-30% to win it. They're all very evenly matched and very good teams
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OKC is definitely the odds on favorite to win. The NY/Indiana series is close in odds, NYK are slight favorites, but many are arguing Indiana is a better team. That’s not a bad take at all, even if you don’t fully agree. That’s legit based on the last month, at least.

 
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navery12 said:
Indiana is not the better team in the East.

OKC is nowhere close to a 70% favorite to win the title. I'd say they're the slight favorite but I'd say all 4 teams are between 20-30% to win it. They're all very evenly matched and very good teams
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I think its somewhere in between. OKC is definitely the favorite, then the other 3 are behind in some combination. All 3 have been impressive but OKC has answers to more questions on both sides of the ball.
 
Dogdeacon said:
And the point of my post was that I don't think the east is nearly as good as the West - do you disagree?
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I absolutely disagree with this. The bottom of the West is significantly better than the bottom and even middle of the East, but the top of both leagues are both very similar
 
Mr. French said:
OKC is definitely the odds on favorite to win. The NY/Indiana series is close in odds, NYK are slight favorites, but many are arguing Indiana is a better team. That’s not a bad take at all, even if you don’t fully agree. That’s legit based on the last month, at least.

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Maybe I'm way off then, but that seems crazy to me. Especially with how OKC has looked this postseason
 
Knicks are a completely different team with a healthy Mitchell Robinson, knock on wood. I did say the Celtics would sweep the Knicks and win every by double digits. So I'm gonna continue this and say the Pacers will sweep the Knicks and win every game by double digits.
 
navery12 said:
Indiana is not the better team in the East.

OKC is nowhere close to a 70% favorite to win the title. I'd say they're the slight favorite but I'd say all 4 teams are between 20-30% to win it. They're all very evenly matched and very good teams
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OKC is not a slight favorite, they are a definitive favorite-that's the general consensus among, fans, analysts, sportsbooks, etc.. They have home court advantage through out the playoffs, the most likely the 2025 MVP, a high level all star in Jalen Williams, a ton of depth to wear teams out, and a great coach.

Is OKC a 70% favorite? Reasonable minds can disagree, but it's not outrageous to say a 70% favorite. Will OKC win the championship? Who knows.
 
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gsmooth said:
OKC is not a slight favorite, they are a definitive favorite-that's the general consensus among, fans, analysts, sportsbooks, etc.. They have home court advantage through out the playoffs, the most likely the 2025 MVP, a high level all star in Jalen Williams, a ton of depth to wear teams out, and a great coach.

Is OKC a 70% favorite? Reasonable minds can disagree, but it's not outrageous to say a 70% favorite. Will OKC win the championship? Who knows.
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Yeah that's been pointed out, I stand by that being ridiculous. That implies them being ~80% favorites over both Minnesota and the Eastern conference winner, which is WAY too high for me
 
Time to change the title of the thread, we’re no longer in the first round.
 
I don't consider OKC a massive favorite. DEN is a mess and took them to seven games without Jokic being Superman. I think they'll beat MIN in a great series but wouldn't be surprised if MIN advanced, especially with how the refs are calling these playoffs.

I'm not a believer in Indy. They needed 7 games to beat a Knicks team last year that didn't have Randle, Mitch, OG for the half series, banged up Hart, and Brunson eventually broke his hand. They're going to beat a Knicks team that now has KAT, Mitch, Bridges, and a healthy OG in 6 games (I'm seeing this prediction a lot)? I just don't see it. I know Mathurin is healthy this year but that's peanuts compared to the additions the Knicks are bringing to the table. Depth matters less and less the deeper you get into the postseason. Rotations shrink. The pace slows down. I think everything is lining up for the Knicks in this series.
 
Lefty2one said:
I don't consider OKC a massive favorite. DEN is a mess and took them to seven games without Jokic being Superman. I think they'll beat MIN in a great series but wouldn't be surprised if MIN advanced, especially with how the refs are calling these playoffs.

I'm not a believer in Indy. They needed 7 games to beat a Knicks team last year that didn't have Randle, Mitch, OG for the half series, banged up Hart, and Brunson eventually broke his hand. They're going to beat a Knicks team that now has KAT, Mitch, Bridges, and a healthy OG in 6 games (I'm seeing this prediction a lot)? I just don't see it. I know Mathurin is healthy this year but that's peanuts compared to the additions the Knicks are bringing to the table. Depth matters less and less the deeper you get into the postseason. Rotations shrink. The pace slows down. I think everything is lining up for the Knicks in this series.
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I think Knicks-Pacers is an even series. The Pacers have been legitimately elite since around mid December, their offense is beautiful. The Knicks have a versatile lineup and options, but they dilly dally a bit too much on offense.

Comparing to last year won’t help much. Two different teams, Nesmith has really taken a step and Siakam has a full season on the team, while obviously the Knicks are much different. Should be a great series.
 
Maybe a 1 game overreaction but I just don't see how Minny has enough players to win this series, and OKC got like 5 dudes they can use on Ant all game to wear him out.
 
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