NBA Draft Lottery Thread

[intlzncster]

Like trading the pick for Klay Thompson?

If Danny could fleece someone that badly, then yes. But that's not going to happen. Warriors would be the biggest idiots in the world.

 

[HooperScooper]

Hooper, seeing as you're plugged in here, there's no scuttlebutt about Danny overthinking it and doing something stupid is there? All in on Fultz.

Haven't asked since the day after the draft lottery. Just know that Danny likes Fultz and wasn't crazy about Ball. I doubt the Celtics trade the pick but you never know. He'd have to get something really good back and feel like he won the trade.

I'll be curious to see if Danny changes his mind and goes for someone like Josh Jackson. I just don't think Fultz is so much better than some of the others that Danny can't change his mind.

 

[the Q]

Haven't asked since the day after the draft lottery. Just know that Danny likes Fultz and wasn't crazy about Ball. I doubt the Celtics trade the pick but you never know. He'd have to get something really good back and feel like he won the trade.

I'll be curious to see if Danny changes his mind and goes for someone like Josh Jackson. I just don't think Fultz is so much better than some of the others that Danny can't change his mind.

It's because he's not that much better.

There's legitimate question if he's better at all.

This is a very weird draft. And there's not even a Wiggins in here, much less a Brow or a Simmons or a KAT.

Jackson though is rather duplicative to Brown, although a better version.

 

[gtcam]

Ball refuses to workout with the Celtics to ensure he doesn't play in the "racist" city of Boston - I am sure via his father's wishes
Obvious he is aiming at LA
If I was DA, I'd draft the kid and trade him to Minnesota just on spite
In all seriousness, I am not convinced that Ball will be an above average pro so Fultz is probably the way he will go
Me, I would be looking at Jackson

 

[the Q]

Ball refuses to workout with the Celtics to ensure he doesn't play in the "racist" city of Boston - I am sure via his father's wishes
Obvious he is aiming at LA
If I was DA, I'd draft the kid and trade him to Minnesota just on spite
In all seriousness, I am not convinced that Ball will be an above average pro so Fultz is probably the way he will go
Me, I would be looking at Jackson

If it got them KAT I'm all for that.

 

[BUConn10]

Hooper, seeing as you're plugged in here, there's no scuttlebutt about Danny overthinking it and doing something stupid is there? All in on Fultz.

Didn't realize Hooper was connected within the NBA owners and GM ring, news to me.

 

[BUConn10]

Ball refuses to workout with the Celtics to ensure he doesn't play in the "racist" city of Boston - I am sure via his father's wishes
Obvious he is aiming at LA
If I was DA, I'd draft the kid and trade him to Minnesota just on spite
In all seriousness, I am not convinced that Ball will be an above average pro so Fultz is probably the way he will go
Me, I would be looking at Jackson

This is the most gtcam assessment of a pro sports league humanly possible.

 

[JSM1970]

Wiggins is a joke. He's a total bust when you look deep at his game.

Fultz is a potential star, Jackson too. Beyond that who knows.

Lots of potential.

It's because he's not that much better.

There's legitimate question if he's better at all.

This is a very weird draft. And there's not even a Wiggins in here, much less a Brow or a Simmons or a KAT.

Jackson though is rather duplicative to Brown, although a better version.

 

[intlzncster]

Didn't realize Hooper was connected within the NBA owners and GM ring, news to me.

Only the Celtics. He works or used to work for them or something like that. I can't remember exactly.

 

[intlzncster]

It's because he's not that much better.

There's legitimate question if he's better at all.

This is a very weird draft. And there's not even a Wiggins in here, much less a Brow or a Simmons or a KAT.

Jackson though is rather duplicative to Brown, although a better version.

KAT was no sure thing predraft. There were all kinds of questions if he'd go 1 or not or if he'd be really good.

 

[uconnbill]

Ball is a very good point guard who is an excellent passer and plays very good defense. The only reason I wouldn't is his pops.
I'd take Fultz all things considered and would sign Hayward to a max contract.

 

[NielsisGood]

It's because he's not that much better.

There's legitimate question if he's better at all.

This is a very weird draft. And there's not even a Wiggins in here, much less a Brow or a Simmons or a KAT.

Jackson though is rather duplicative to Brown, although a better version.

There's no question from anyone other than you and like 1 writer you've glommed onto.

 

[intlzncster]

Ball is a very good point guard who is an excellent passer and plays very good defense. The only reason I wouldn't is his pops.
I'd take Fultz all things considered and would sign Hayward to a max contract.

Plays very good defense? Tell that to De'Aaron Fox. Kid dropped 39 on Ball in the tournament.

 

[NielsisGood]

Plays very good defense? Tell that to De'Aaron Fox. Kid dropped 39 on Ball in the tournament.

Not only that but UCLA was horrible defensively all year. Lonzo has an extremely low floor to go along with whatever people think his ceiling is.

 

[beakumhawks]

I am obviously prejudiced, but I think Jackson is going to be one hell of a pro. The kid got better as the year went along and seems to have an attitude that he is not afraid of work and listening to coaches. Fultz led his team to 24 losses, and if you pick Ball you get his wacko dad as well. Whoever picks Jackson will end up being thrilled with the pick.

 

[auror]

I am obviously prejudiced, but I think Jackson is going to be one hell of a pro. The kid got better as the year went along and seems to have an attitude that he is not afraid of work and listening to coaches. Fultz led his team to 24 losses, and if you pick Ball you get his wacko dad as well. Whoever picks Jackson will end up being thrilled with the pick.

Arbitrary endpoint, but if he can shoot like he did in his last 18 games (48% from 3), he'll be Kawhi.

 

[HooperScooper]

Fultz has talked to Ainge, hopes to be top pick

I wonder if Ainge has tried to talk to Lonzo Ball. Lavar probably wouldn't let him.

 

[the Q]

There's no question from anyone other than you and like 1 writer you've glommed onto.

not true at all.

Among these 14 teams, Fultz and Ball are essentially in a dead heat -- each player has seven teams that would take him No. 1.

from Chad Ford insider article talking to the execs on lottery teams.

This isn't nearly as clear cut in NBA circles as you guys think it is.

 

[HooperScooper]

not true at all.



from Chad Ford insider article talking to the execs on lottery teams.

This isn't nearly as clear cut in NBA circles as you guys think it is.

Yeah, like I trust anything Chad Ford says. Sounds like he's guessing who likes Fultz and who likes Ball.

 

[intlzncster]

Yeah, like I trust anything Chad Ford says. Sounds like he's guessing who likes Fultz and who likes Ball.

Also, people give too short shrift to the idea that GMs/Execs float ideas in the media in the hopes of influencing perception...maybe so a guy slides or even try and fake out another weak GM to not draft a guy they don't want to play against. I know the practice is rife in the NFL, and while I don't know much vis a vis NBA executive MO's, I'd be surprised if it wasn't used there as well.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Only the Lakers would take Ball. Fultz is a stud, nobody else would dream of passing on him.

 

[gtcam]

This is the most gtcam assessment of a pro sports league humanly possible.

love your idiotic sense of humor
you just don't get it, do you? sarcasm or not
as I have said - we aren't in the same league

 

[navery12]

not true at all.



from Chad Ford insider article talking to the execs on lottery teams.

This isn't nearly as clear cut in NBA circles as you guys think it is.

If you go back and read the article after the draft it'll say all 14 teams would take Fultz #1 though