Mount Rushmore (UCONN Style)

[CBear01]

Um, you have to put CD up there. Simply, without her you don't have anyone else up there.

 

[ed4ourgirls]

Rebecca was a better scorer, rebounder, shot blocker, and passer (statistically speaking, of course). She did play with Kara a lot but never had a problem playing the 5. But, no one is going wrong either way

The comparison between Rebecca and Tina is competitive only during their UConn careers.
If you compare pro careers, it's really no contest.

 

[alexrgct]

We've historically done polls about the all-time starting five question, and a solid consensus was Sue, Diana, Maya, Rebecca, and Tina. Now, from a Mt. Rushmore perspective, Rebecca has to stay on, but I would swap her out with Stewie on the all-time starting five.

Of course, I still haven't forgiven Geno for actually having a chance to *USE* that all-time starting five in the 2014 FIBA championships and failing to do so. Ah well, maybe in Rio next year...

 

[rugbymate]

Mt Rushmore , IMHO, is not about the four greatest presidents. Although you could clearly argue three of the best are there(Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln), the inclusion of Teddy Roosevelt had more to do with his national park initiatives and his work in South Dakota( read the Bully Pulpit if you have a chance). In that spirit, one could argue for Geno as the program builder or Lobo as the early face of the program. The other 3 have got to be DT, MM and Stewie.
BTW...you can't make this stuff up but a recent Lois Lerner email quoted her as saying Lincoln may have been the worst US president ever because he didn't let the South secede!

 

[Wally East]

The comparison between Rebecca and Tina is competitive only during their UConn careers.
If you compare pro careers, it's really no contest.

Yes, we're talking about their time at UConn.

 

[UcMiami]

BTW...you can't make this stuff up but a recent Lois Lerner email quoted her as saying Lincoln may have been the worst US president ever because he didn't let the South secede!

Have to admit there have been times over the last 20 years when I would gladly have let the confederate states leave!

Part of the OP designated NPY as being a requirement for inclusion which puts Lobo as the earliest possible candidate. No one has of course mentioned the second who was Jen. I think she is clearly surpassed by Sue.

As for adding in pro careers - tough for the early generation - and both Jen and Rebecca's professional careers are still ongoing and still having an impact on the game as is Carla's and a few other former players.

 

[Gus Mahler]

I checked the stats just to see how much better Tina's were than Rebecca's. Well, I got a surprise

Tina's rebounding and scoring stats are only better when totaled. Rebecca has a higher career per game average for both scoring and rebounding but played 26 less games (126 vs 152): 16.9 ppg and 10.1 rpg vs. 15.4 and 9.0. Rebecca also had more total blocks and assists, meaning higher per game totals, too: 3.1 bpg and 2.1 vs. 1.5 bpg and 1.1 apg.

Tina was, however, a better shooter: .610 vs. .498.

Now, obviously, stats become a function of who is on your team, too. Tina would've scored more if Maya wasn't on the team, but, likewise, Rebecca would've scored more if Kara wasn't on the team.

In any event, I found it interesting

I perused Lobo's stats last winter. I found them awfully impressive, especially given the difference in games played.

Plus, she's smart and cleans up well.

 

[CocoHusky]

I perused Lobo's stats last winter. I found them awfully impressive, especially given the difference in games played.

Plus, she's smart and cleans up well.

I agree with your logic, but the fact that Rebeccca is “smart and cleans up well” is hardly a discriminator, when compared to Sue bird and Tina Charles who are both smart and clean up nicely as well.

 

[Bigpetunia]

Career value, including professional performance, is beyond the parameters of this topic...we're only dealing with time at UConn. In that regard, I tend to believe that, given the current roster, the chisel is coming out one year too early. By next summer, in my opinion, we'll all have to concede that the presently reigning #1 point guard in the country probably has to be up there!

 

[BroadwayVa]

At the top is GENO..

Why GENO??? He never played at Uconn, never was an All American (All Italian 8 times). Just what are his exploits?
Hope Dave in Miami understands this and has a very Barry day.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Such a tough choice between those 3 (Bird, Charles, Lobo).

Think those 3 are above the next tier though,

Abrosimova, Wolters, Montgomery, Sales, Cash, Bascom, Rizzotti, Dolson, Jefferson, KML

Abrosimova would have to stop being a Russian to become a true All American--as special category, All Russian-All American!!

Also, who is doing the sculptures of those chosen? Will the medium be Granite or marble?? I'm not sure what the rock is with TR's likeness chiseled into it--it should be the same kind of rock. Who is collecting the donations??

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Mt Rushmore , IMHO, is not about the four greatest presidents. Although you could clearly argue three of the best are there(Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln), the inclusion of Teddy Roosevelt had more to do with his national park initiatives and his work in South Dakota( read the Bully Pulpit if you have a chance). In that spirit, one could argue for Geno as the program builder or Lobo as the early face of the program. The other 3 have got to be DT, MM and Stewie.
BTW...you can't make this stuff up but a recent Lois Lerner email quoted her as saying Lincoln may have been the worst US president ever because he didn't let the South secede!

Would Jefferson really make the top 4? I would easily replace him with FDR, LBJ, or Wilson. He probably deserves it more than TR.

 

[Wally East]

Would Jefferson really make the top 4? I would easily replace him with FDR, LBJ, or Wilson. He probably deserves it more than TR.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're replacing Thomas Jefferson with LBJ?

 

[Nuyoika]

PG: Sue
SG: DT
SF: Maya
PF: Breanna
C: Rebecca

That seems really easy, right?

My brain just melted trying to comprehend what the WCBB world would do if that line up were ever possible........

 

[Versace_husky]

PG: Sue
SG: DT
SF: Maya
PF: Breanna
C: Rebecca

That seems really easy, right?

That was def. easy but I was thinking a Rushmore of each position considering the amount of talent that's come through here.

 

[rugbymate]

Would Jefferson really make the top 4? I would easily replace him with FDR, LBJ, or Wilson. He probably deserves it more than TR.

Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence!!! By the way, construction on Mt Rushmore started in the late 1920's so LBJ and FDR weren't thought of yet...I suspect you knew that and were just raising the question of who are the four best presidents.

 

[Oldbones]

From what I understood of Mt Rushmore, and the original Borglum idea, Washington is there for the original 13 states, Lincoln for preservation of the Union, Jefferson for the Louisiana Purchase, and Roosevelt for opening the West. The fifth choice would probably be Polk, who was there for the taking California from Mexico, for bluffing England out of Washington and Oregon, and for facilitating the Texas Annexation. In fact, I'd put Polk ahead of Roosevelt. Each of the four (or five) was there for the a major step forward for the Country. They are not necessarily our four (or five) best presidents.

That said, the BY Mount Rushmore of major program steps would be Bascom (Final Four) Lobo (champion) Moore (the Streak) and Stewie if she gets the transcendent four-peat. Not necessarily our four best players.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence!!! By the way, construction on Mt Rushmore started in the late 1920's so LBJ and FDR weren't thought of yet...I suspect you knew that and were just raising the question of who are the four best presidents.

I did, but thanks. Jefferson wasn't President when he wrote the Declaration of Independence..as a slave owner. But fair enough.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're replacing Thomas Jefferson with LBJ?

In a heartbeat

 

[Gus Mahler]

I agree with your logic, but the fact that Rebeccca is “smart and cleans up well” is hardly a discriminator, when compared to Sue bird and Tina Charles who are both smart and clean up nicely as well.

Ha! Well, you’re right. And cleaning up well would generally not be a criterion for inclusion on a Mount Rushmore (unless it’s a Mount Rushmore of 6’4” smart, pretty Cubano-American women who played basketball well in the late 20th-century—then I’d say yeah).

But truth be told, I had stepped out of the thread for a moment (I’m prone to such insouciance) and my mindset was on adulating Lobo in general. Wally’s post piqued a memory of spending a good deal of time looking at the UCONN media guide last season. I was struck by how good Lobo’s numbers were in roughly a full season’s fewer games than, say, a Dolson. A lot of water has passed under the bridge in the past twenty years and a lot of great players have come and gone, but her stats still sparkle.

Plus, speaking of numbers, she’s got a few bucks in the bank. (Also not a criterion. ) Chick’s got some positives going on.

 

[baggerbob]

Let's not over think this people. It's Lobo, Taurasi, Moore and Stewart. Next question?

Without that 1st championship, who knows if Geno might not have moved on, Sue, Diana, might not have come, so Rebecca has to be on there.

 

[Gus Mahler]

Would Jefferson really make the top 4? I would easily replace him with FDR, LBJ, or Wilson. He probably deserves it more than TR.

LBJ?

 

[Waquoit]

The comparison between Rebecca and Tina is competitive only during their UConn careers.
If you compare pro careers, it's really no contest.

It's no contest in college career as well. Lobo took UConn to the top. Anyone who actually watched that first title game real time knows that Lobo was the rock. As great as Charles was for UConn, she never the top dog.

 

[mhshuskies]

Voted for Lobo - how can you have Mt. Rushmore without George Washington, he might not be the best president but he was the first. Same goes for Lobo - it also means you have one from each era of greatness with no overlap. (Sue is one of my all time favorites, but with DT selected already, Lobo just seems more fitting. And with Maya already selected, the same goes for Tina.

If you ask Geno, he would say the first president was Kerry Bascom. I think she should be in the mix with Rebecca and Nykesha Sales.

 

[meyers7]

In a heartbeat

That would be a dead heart. Not in a millennium, as it were. Shocking that you're serious.

BUT anyway, back to the UCONN Mt Rushmore, looks like Ms Lobo (Rushin, hmmm Rushin, Mt Rushmore guess it makes sense) in a pretty close one over Ms Bird.

So there you have it folks. Now all we need is a mountain, a sculptor and lots and lots of money.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're replacing Thomas Jefferson with LBJ?

If you apply today's value systems on the Thomas Jefferson era a point could be made to removed Jefferson in favor of LBJ who pushed many of the Kennedy Civil Rights bills to fruition. Of course you may then dismiss Jefferson's emphasis on public education when it wasn't available to the masses or the Constitution, or the overthrow of English rule. It amazes me how many fail to realize that the value systems of the USA rotated many times and evolved as conditions and morals changed. Our Founding Fathers should not be charged for failure to live up to todays morals/values. If Jefferson lived today he would have valued things differently.

 

[BroadwayVa]

That would be a dead heart. Not in a millennium, as it were. Shocking that you're serious.

BUT anyway, back to the UCONN Mt Rushmore, looks like Ms Lobo (Rushin, hmmm Rushin, Mt Rushmore guess it makes sense) in a pretty close one over Ms Bird.

So there you have it folks. Now all we need is a mountain, a sculptor and lots and lots of money.[/

Ha! Well, you’re right. And cleaning up well would generally not be a criterion for inclusion on a Mount Rushmore (unless it’s a Mount Rushmore of 6’4” smart, pretty Cubano-American women who played basketball well in the late 20th-century—then I’d say yeah).

But truth be told, I had stepped out of the thread for a moment (I’m prone to such insouciance) and my mindset was on adulating Lobo in general. Wally’s post piqued a memory of spending a good deal of time looking at the UCONN media guide last season. I was struck by how good Lobo’s numbers were in roughly a full season’s fewer games than, say, a Dolson. A lot of water has passed under the bridge in the past twenty years and a lot of great players have come and gone, but her stats still sparkle.

Plus, speaking of numbers, she’s got a few bucks in the bank. (Also not a criterion. ) Chick’s got some positives going on.

As many former Uconn greats Ms Lobo is so much more than just having played in a championship or played basketball. True with out WBB she wouldn't be known. I love Sue Bird she is almost my perfect everything, yet if it is the choice of Mt Rushmore (Uconn style) I'd have to go along with Ms Lobo.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Would Jefferson really make the top 4? I would easily replace him with FDR, LBJ, or Wilson. He probably deserves it more than TR.

I have to agree with TR NOW. At the time TR was big time stuff.
Wilson and FDR (great WW 2 leader) stuffed the Constitution into the dresser drawer and dictated (I chose that word carefully) what they believed the Country should be. Social Security, which I obtain benefits from, is a Roosevelt Ponzi scheme and with Johnsons addition of Medicare just assured few would pay for many at some point in the scheme. For the first 20 or 30 years of SS or more people collected hundreds of times more than they paid into the system. How do you stop a bad system without damning millions to starvation or the re-institution of Old ages homes or poor houses?? Thank you FDR, LBJ and Wilson (a Stauntion Va guy)

 

[mhshuskies]

D, Maya and Stewie are givens. It's the fourth that gets a little dicier. Rebecca is certainly right there but so should be Kerry Bascom and Nykesha Sales. If you throw Sue, Tina and MoJeff in there then you need to include Svet, and Shea.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

I have to agree with TR NOW. At the time TR was big time stuff.
Wilson and FDR (great WW 2 leader) stuffed the Constitution into the dresser drawer and dictated (I chose that word carefully) what they believed the Country should be. Social Security, which I obtain benefits from, is a Roosevelt Ponzi scheme and with Johnsons addition of Medicare just assured few would pay for many at some point in the scheme. For the first 20 or 30 years of SS or more people collected hundreds of times more than they paid into the system. How do you stop a bad system without damning millions to starvation or the re-institution of Old ages homes or poor houses?? Thank you FDR, LBJ and Wilson (a Stauntion Va guy)

Lol...that's one way of looking at it.