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Buzzyboy · Oct 10, 2014

easttexastrash said:
Won't they be able to show if they can play with UCONN when they travel to UCONN this season to play the Huskies?

Staley is a darn good coach or Geno would not have had her on the National Team staff. And she is getting a couple of top 10 players to add to a team that was very good last year. I wouldn't discount their chances at this point.

Didn't I hear about a key loss through injury that's affected South Carolina just recently? Staley is a darn good coach but isn't Geno the best in the game? South Carolina has a very talented team but doesn't UConn have three preseason All-American players on their roster along with more depth than they've had in years along with a couple of top ten freshmen coming in? Wasn't South Carolina out in the round of 16 this year while UConn went undefeated and beat everyone they played by a minimum of 10 points? Didn't they play more top 20 teams than did South Carolina, who had only one big signature win, Kentucky? The same Kentucky team that UConn wiped out? If I went and bought a Powerball ticket, isn't that a CHANCE I'd win tens of millions of dollars????? Never say never but come on. What is out there to suggest they would have any luck against this Huskie team, particularly at home?

Buzzyboy · Oct 10, 2014

Wbbfan1 said:
Tiffany Mitchell is South Carolina's Scoring guard (2) who was a WBCA All American last year, as well as receiving other awards. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/tiffany_mitchell_816835.html. At the beginning of the year, have to say she's better then UConn's scoring guard.

Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html

Then add Alaina Coates, the SEC 6th player of the year award winner. IMHO that makes So Carolina stronger in the post then UConn. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/alaina_coates_851937.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see South Carolina dominate the boards when they play UConn.

South Carolina brings in the #2 Ranked Hoopgurl Recruiting Class for 2014 including one of the #1 ranked players in the class A'ja Wilson. http://espn.go.com/high-school/girl...rankings/rank?rank=2&class=2014&date=20140416

South Carolina has added scoring, along with length in their recruiting class and should be much better then last year.

Are KML, Stewart, and Moriah better then South Carolina's starters, sure but will it be enough to overcome South Carolina's superior length. It should, but if UConn has an off shooting day, South Carolina can win. Just don't think UConn has an overwhelming talent advantage that some on the board seems to think.

Wasn't UConn's recruiting class in the Top 3, maybe even number one last year? How could you dismiss their incoming class and pump up South Carolina's? South Carolina got a big bump because they had the number one kid in A'ja Wilson that surely beefed up their class standing but UConn had 3 girls that were in the top 12, at least through most of last year. From the way you're building them up, they should have easily been a final four team and yet, guess what, they weren't!!! They obviously have some flaws, be it defense or team chemistry or something else if they are that dominant inside and have an All-American two guard and yet never made it past the sweet sixteen, right?????

Buzzyboy · Oct 10, 2014

Wbbfan1 said:
Tiffany Mitchell is South Carolina's Scoring guard (2) who was a WBCA All American last year, as well as receiving other awards. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/tiffany_mitchell_816835.html. At the beginning of the year, have to say she's better then UConn's scoring guard.

Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html

Then add Alaina Coates, the SEC 6th player of the year award winner. IMHO that makes So Carolina stronger in the post then UConn. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/alaina_coates_851937.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see South Carolina dominate the boards when they play UConn.

South Carolina brings in the #2 Ranked Hoopgurl Recruiting Class for 2014 including one of the #1 ranked players in the class A'ja Wilson. http://espn.go.com/high-school/girl...rankings/rank?rank=2&class=2014&date=20140416

South Carolina has added scoring, along with length in their recruiting class and should be much better then last year.

Are KML, Stewart, and Moriah better then South Carolina's starters, sure but will it be enough to overcome South Carolina's superior length. It should, but if UConn has an off shooting day, South Carolina can win. Just don't think UConn has an overwhelming talent advantage that some on the board seems to think.

Wasn't UConn's recruiting class in the Top 3, maybe even number one last year? How could you dismiss their incoming class and yet pump up South Carolina's? South Carolina's classs got a big bump because they had the number one kid in A'ja Wilson that surely beefed up their class standing but UConn had 3 girls that were in the top 12, at least through most of last year though I don't know where they're rated now since most recruiting sites continued to update. From the way you're building up the players from last years squad, they should have easily been a final four team and yet, guess what, they weren't!!! Last year there was UConn and Notre Dame and then everyone else. Even then, UConn showed their dominance in the National Championship game when they throttled Notre Dame. South Carolna obviously had some flaws, be it defense or team chemistry or something else if they were that dominant inside and had an All-American two guard and yet couldn't make it past the sweet sixteen, right?????

Wbbfan1 · Oct 10, 2014

I have never said South Carolina will beat UConn or that they are better then UConn. All I've said is that the talent level difference is not that much different and South Carolina could give UConn a great game. I have said UConn should beat South Carolina, unless UConn has poor shooting game. I have respect for Dawn and her South Carolina Gamecocks and believe they learned a lot last year, especially their loss in the Sweet 16.

meyers7 · Oct 10, 2014

Wbbfan1 said:
Tiffany Mitchell is South Carolina's Scoring guard (2) who was a WBCA All American last year, as well as receiving other awards. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/tiffany_mitchell_816835.html. At the beginning of the year, have to say she's better then UConn's scoring guard.

Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html

Then add Alaina Coates, the SEC 6th player of the year award winner. IMHO that makes So Carolina stronger in the post then UConn. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/alaina_coates_851937.html

Wouldn't surprise me to see South Carolina dominate the boards when they play UConn.

It would surprise me to no end if SC "dominated" the boards. They "might" win the battle by a small margin, but UCONN has lost the board numbers before and won easily. Not a big deal. AND, Stokes is a better rebounder than Dolson was (although Dolson was very good, especially her Jr/Sr years) and with Tuck getting more playing time (fingers crossed), our rebounding could well be better this year than last, when we had no problems.

Wbbfan1 said:
South Carolina brings in the #2 Ranked Hoopgurl Recruiting Class for 2014 including one of the #1 ranked players in the class A'ja Wilson. http://espn.go.com/high-school/girl...rankings/rank?rank=2&class=2014&date=20140416

And UCONN brings in the #4 class, not a huge difference there. AND you have to remember UCONN's recruits were probably rated a little lower than they should have been. Ekmark didn't play her SR year. Nurse wasn't rated by all services. Williams was hurt most of the year. It's possible they could be much better than their ratings would indicate. And with that they were still all ranked overall within the top 16. Wilson and White were ranked in the top 10, but Cuevas (#32) and Duckett (#57) and Cliney (>100) were not near that. AND, it's usually harder for Freshmen Posts to make an impact than it is for Freshmen guards/wings. I don't expect Wilson and White to have a "big" impact. You usually don't see the posts really making big impacts until Jr/Sr years, sometimes Soph years.

Wbbfan1 said:
South Carolina has added scoring, along with length in their recruiting class and should be much better then last year.

I do think they will be better than last year. I expect them to on par with TN, Louisville, UNC level, quite possible a FF team. But that does not put them on the UCONN, ND level.

Wbbfan1 said:
Are KML, Stewart, and Moriah better then South Carolina's starters, sure but will it be enough to overcome South Carolina's superior length.

Seriously? The UCONN Triumvirate is going to be enough to overcome everybody. Most likely talking 2 first team AA's and the Lieberman Award winner. KML and Stewart are going to be running 1/2 for NPOY honors.

Ye of so little faith.

iamcbs · Oct 10, 2014

ericsandiego said:
Based on the way Saniya finished the year, no way did she put a hammer down on earning the spot. I don't disagree she has an advantage, but I disagree that Saniya is the starting 2G set in stone as of right now. And I'd bet a ton of money that Geno would say the same thing.

MoJet hadn't put the hammer down on the starting PG spot at this time a season ago and we all know how that turned out. A college players biggest improvement generally comes between the freshman and sophomore seasons. If not Saniya then whom?

iamcbs · Oct 10, 2014

meyers7 said:
It would surprise me to no end if SC "dominated" the boards. They "might" win the battle by a small margin, but UCONN has lost the board numbers before and won easily. Not a big deal. AND, Stokes is a better rebounder than Dolson was (although Dolson was very good, especially her Jr/Sr years) and with Tuck getting more playing time (fingers crossed), our rebounding could well be better this year than last, when we had no problems.

And UCONN brings in the #4 class, not a huge difference there. AND you have to remember UCONN's recruits were probably rated a little lower than they should have been. Ekmark didn't play her SR year. Nurse wasn't rated by all services. Williams was hurt most of the year. It's possible they could be much better than their ratings would indicate. And with that they were still all ranked overall within the top 16. Wilson and White were ranked in the top 10, but Cuevas (#32) and Duckett (#57) and Cliney (>100) were not near that. AND, it's usually harder for Freshmen Posts to make an impact than it is for Freshmen guards/wings. I don't expect Wilson and White to have a "big" impact. You usually don't see the posts really making big impacts until Jr/Sr years, sometimes Soph years.

I do think they will be better than last year. I expect them to on par with TN, Louisville, UNC level, quite possible a FF team. But that does not put them on the UCONN, ND level.

Seriously? The UCONN Triumvirate is going to be enough to overcome everybody. Most likely talking 2 first team AA's and the Lieberman Award winner. KML and Stewart are going to be running 1/2 for NPOY honors.

Ye of so little faith.

Won't this entire debate be settled on the court, where it should be, on Feb. 9th?

Suebird10fan · Oct 10, 2014

Wbbfan1 said:
Elem Ibiam is So Carolina's starting post player and is at least equal to Kiah. Many would say she's a better player as she has more offensive talents then Kiah. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/elem_ibiam_770874.html
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Kiah had more blocks and way more boards despite playing fewer minutes. Kiah had a vastly better a/to ratio and much better fg and ft%. Yes ibiam scored 148 more points but took 123 more shots, which for a post isn't especially efficient. statistically Kiah is clearly superior.

Huskies Rule · Oct 11, 2014

RadyLady said:
Well, you appear to be taking a wee bit of a thumping on this, dear one through no fault of your own. Take heart my friend for we defend our fellow boneyarders regardless of fame or flaw, often with tongue in cheek and in teasing manner. Each poster has their unique manner and is appreciated as one of the ingredients that make up the stew that is the Boneyard.

Tampering with any of the ingredients is usually met in this way.

Now you find yourself as one of us and I hope that you will continue to post. You did after all give Tony a couple of A+s for his best attributes. And the rest....eh, we just move on to the next entry.

Thank you, My Lady. I meant no disrespect. As long ago advised when teaching youngsters, always avoid sarcasm. It's misunderstood and poorly appreciated. I Forgot my lesson.
Farewell cruel world.

sawxfan23 · Oct 11, 2014

iamcbs said:
ESD~
I have to disagree with your assessment of the 2 spot being a question mark, there is no question; Saniya will make the leap just like MoJet did last year. She's a dynamic scorer, as well as a good(not great)shooter. She'll quiet a lot of critics this season and make it tough for Courtney and Gabby to see the floor as freshman.

Chong showed nothing down the stretch last year that would lead one to believe that she is ready and poised for a drastic change in her game. Just because she is now a sophomore doesn't mean that her game is going to change all of a sudden. Jefferson showed signs throughout the 2nd half of her freshman and especially down the stretch that showed that she was starting to come into her own. I have seen none of that from Chong yet. I am willing to bet that by the end of the year that both Williams(if healthy) and Ekmark will both see more playing time than Chong.

easttexastrash · Oct 11, 2014

Buzzyboy said:
Didn't I hear about a key loss through injury that's affected South Carolina just recently? Staley is a darn good coach but isn't Geno the best in the game? South Carolina has a very talented team but doesn't UConn have three preseason All-American players on their roster along with more depth than they've had in years along with a couple of top ten freshmen coming in? Wasn't South Carolina out in the round of 16 this year while UConn went undefeated and beat everyone they played by a minimum of 10 points? Didn't they play more top 20 teams than did South Carolina, who had only one big signature win, Kentucky? The same Kentucky team that UConn wiped out? If I went and bought a Powerball ticket, isn't that a CHANCE I'd win tens of millions of dollars????? Never say never but come on. What is out there to suggest they would have any luck against this Huskie team, particularly at home?

Adding the number 1 forward (number 1 overall) and the number 1 post (7th overall) may suggest that South Carolina may be a better team than last year and more prepared to compete with UCONN for a national championship. Kind of like when Tennessee added Candace Parker. Add those two to a team with Welch, Mitchell, Coates and Ibiam and there is a LOT of potential to be a NC contender.

Oh yeah, also add #32 Duckett and #35 Cuevas and UCONN's loss of first round draft picks Dolson and Hartley. Replacing two starters is no easy task.

UCONN has a nice class coming in, but no game changers like SC has, IMO.

RadyLady · Oct 11, 2014

Huskies Rule said:
Thank you, My Lady. I meant no disrespect. As long ago advised when teaching youngsters, always avoid sarcasm. It's misunderstood and poorly appreciated. I Forgot my lesson.
Farewell cruel world.

Sarcasm is good. We use it a lot here....actually...

PalPa · Oct 11, 2014

RadyLady said:
Sarcasm is good. We use it a lot here....actually...

Are you sure? I didn't see any instances of sarcasm in the posts I have read.

j66kicker · Oct 11, 2014

Hopefully, "Fairwell cruel world" was sarcastic.

hjoerring · Oct 12, 2014

pinotbear said:
I'm still trying to find if I'm liable for a sin tax. If I am, I fear that I am many years in arrears (yeah, yeah, don't go there: too easy), and, when the bill comes due, it will be considerable, formidable ..and, "unbearable".

So, you are not against sin, just tax(es)?

pinotbear · Oct 12, 2014

hjoerring said:
So, you are not against sin, just tax(es)?

Depends on the sin!

As far as taxes go, if they ever get around to taxing my patience, I'll get off cheap!

Zorro · Oct 12, 2014

easttexastrash said:
Adding the number 1 forward (number 1 overall) and the number 1 post (7th overall) may suggest that South Carolina may be a better team than last year and more prepared to compete with UCONN for a national championship. Kind of like when Tennessee added Candace Parker. Add those two to a team with Welch, Mitchell, Coates and Ibiam and there is a LOT of potential to be a NC contender.

Oh yeah, also add #32 Duckett and #35 Cuevas and UCONN's loss of first round draft picks Dolson and Hartley. Replacing two starters is no easy task.

UCONN has a nice class coming in, but no game changers like SC has, IMO.

Why would we want our game changed?

easttexastrash · Oct 12, 2014

elzorrogris said:
Why would we want our game changed?

Your game was changed when Stewart stepped foot on the court for UCONN. Remove her from the court and see if it changes again.

geneticrex · Oct 12, 2014

South Carolina is no joke and without question has the returning talent, incoming talent and coach to make a run at a title. Anyone who believes otherwise is kidding themselves.

Zorro · Oct 12, 2014

easttexastrash said:
Your game was changed when Stewart stepped foot on the court for UCONN. Remove her from the court and see if it changes again.

Well, actually, we'd really rather not. (Come to think of it, our game did not change until about 30+ games into Stewies' first season, as I recall.)

Kibitzer · Oct 13, 2014

Wbbfan1 said:
I have never said South Carolina will beat UConn or that they are better then UConn. All I've said is that the talent level difference is not that much different and South Carolina could give UConn a great game. I have said UConn should beat South Carolina, unless UConn has poor shooting game. I have respect for Dawn and her South Carolina Gamecocks and believe they learned a lot last year, especially their loss in the Sweet 16.

There are two kinds of teams at the top tier:

(1) the ones that take home the trophies; and,

(2) the others, who have learning experiences at crunch time.

easttexastrash · Oct 13, 2014

Kibitzer said:
There are two kinds of teams at the top tier:

(1) the ones that take home the trophies; and,

(2) the others, who have learning experiences at crunch time.

#2 = JPM

easttexastrash · Oct 13, 2014

elzorrogris said:
Well, actually, we'd really rather not. (Come to think of it, our game did not change until about 30+ games into Stewies' first season, as I recall.)

UCONN fans, above all others, should understand what a difference one player can make: Stewart, Maya, Charles, DT, Lobo. If Wilson is all that she is cracked up to be she is going to have a major impact on SC's team.

ChicagoGG · Oct 13, 2014

easttexastrash said:
UCONN fans, above all others, should understand what a difference one player can make: Stewart, Maya, Charles, DT, Lobo. If Wilson is all that she is cracked up to be she is going to have a major impact on SC's team.

Baylor fans also probably understand the same thing. Wilson may indeed impact SS favorably. But our freshman class is not to shabby either.

Wbbfan1 · Oct 13, 2014

Yes, just like UConn learned by their close losses to ND and came into the Championship Game, its not happening again tonight. The players/coaches came out with the mindset, we're taking the game to ND and they won't be able to stop us. If UConn can learn, so can South Carolina. Both teams are talented and suspect UConn will meet South Carolina twice this year, in the regular season then at the Final Four.

Kibitzer said:
There are two kinds of teams at the top tier:

(1) the ones that take home the trophies; and,

(2) the others, who have learning experiences at crunch time.

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