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Mississippi St (5) @ Oregon (7) - 12/18/18

Who will win this game?

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Wow, i don't know if I've ever seen Vic do a blow-by in the handshake like he just did to Graves.
 
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Huh. I know many don't get to watch many Pac 12 games. I've seen Ionescu play much better than this. She was money from the FT line, but she got off to a slow start and just couldn't hit from the field the whole game. Nowhere near a triple double either. If you were impressed with her tonight, you should see her when she plays well.
 
Nice win for a good program. Good game all around. All of this young guys gave a good account of themselves on national TV. Proud of them all, especially that Howard. Player top to bottom. She can play for my team any time. Geno could have had her this year for a bagel, but she looks nice in maroon.
 
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DefenseBB said:
McCown may win the SEC POY but tonight has shown me she shouldn’t be considered for National POY. You need to show up and if shots aren’t falling, do something else. Now, Sabrina on the other hand IS in serious contention for 2nd place in National POY :rolleyes:
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She almost looked like she was sick. Not making excuses, I've just never seen her this lethargic in 4 years of watching ever game. Something wasn't right
 
Plebe said:
Wow, i don't know if I've ever seen Vic do a blow-by in the handshake like he just did to Graves.
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I missed that, bad look for him. Gotta have class when you lose.
 
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I am actually happy to see Vic sit her and make a point. It was needed. She looked like she didn't want to be there.

She let her teammates down with that attitude and hustle throughout the game tonight.

I do think MSU needs some of the bench players to step up and emerge. People like AEH, Taylor, Wiggins, someone. Outside shooting is pretty limited with Holmes and Danberry


That defense has major problems on the pick and roll, major problems. It was evident vs Marquette and again tonight.

MSU has a great team but there are some significant flaws that have to be addressed. Luckily its only December. A lot changes in 2 months
 
Why they had a 6’7 post player hedge rather than forcing them to take tough shots over her is beyond me. Even if McCowan just put her hand up in contest and Oregon tried to shoot 3’s over her, it would still be better than leaving the lanes wide open for Oregon to drive. Credit to Oregon for their defense on McCowan and for realizing the weakness of having a less-than-mobile post hedge on them.
 
Oregon is better defensively when Sabally and especially Boley aren't in the game. Sanely had potential to be a great defender, with great size, length, and lateral quickness. She's just not there yet. Boley is not blessed with any of those things, which I think will be a storyline for her always.
 
Who would've guessed MSU had more 3 point FGA then Oregon? Only by 1, but still unexpected. UO didn't need to take long bombs because they were picking them apart w/ the pick and roll all night.
 
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Shocking to me, 5 points from Big Tee and Vic pulls her out in the critical end of game. Maybe she was gassed but after 3-4 minutes rest he still kept her out. Hope she can get it together.
 
Well, I have to say that was easily the second-best WCBB game so far this season, after UConn-Notre Dame. None of the other top-10 matchups have even come close to this.
 
SECbbfan24 said:
I am actually happy to see Vic sit her and make a point. It was needed. She looked like she didn't want to be there.

She let her teammates down with that attitude and hustle throughout the game tonight.

I do think MSU needs some of the bench players to step up and emerge. People like AEH, Taylor, Wiggins, someone. Outside shooting is pretty limited with Holmes and Danberry
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This team really needed thumping tonight. Things have seemed to come so easy for 2+ years. The new girls can't just assume they're entitled to another run to April. They hafta decide what they want and if they're willing to put in the work that the girls before them have.

What's crazy is if they shoot 70-75% from the stripe we win the game. I just think this a learning experience that the team really needed.
 
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southofnorth said:
That goes for the defensive player as well. Hebard has been physically in contact with McCowan just about every second she has been defending her. If what you say is true, than no physically contact of any kind can be allowed. The point I was making is that if a defensive player is bodying an offensive player to the point where the offensive player can make a move, they are doing the same thing as displacing the offensive player. If McCowan goes up and Hebard’s arms are tangled in McCowan’s, Hebard is at fault because you have a right to make a basketball play (shooting motion in this case). Guards aren’t allowed to keep their hands on a player they’re defending anymore because that’s the guard equivalent of bodying the other player.
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I am trying to visualize how your example might occur. If McCowan goes straight up to shoot with a vertical motion, she is occupying space that she owns. If Hebard's arms extend past the vertical and make contact with McCowan while she is shooting, then her arms are in opponent-owned space, so she is committing a foul. On the other hand, if Hebard holds up her arms up in a strict vertical position, and McCowan's shooting motion includes moving her arms forward into Hebard's "fence", then McCowan is in Hebard-owned space and has committed a foul.
 
msugrad00 said:
Vic has surrounded Big T with players who like can't shoot other than Bibby. Jaz is still serving no purpose out there at all.
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You May be correct, last year the 3 point shooters kept teams from sagging on the post. I have confidence Vic will get it resolved, may have to play AEH if she can produce but unfortunately so far it appears she needs to be wide open to shoot well and the good teams are not going to let that happen.
 
Jmsdawg said:
Shocking to me, 5 points from Big Tee and Vic pulls her out in the critical end of game. Maybe she was gassed but after 3-4 minutes rest he still kept her out. Hope she can get it together.
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Wasn't shocking to me. I was mildly surprised he stayed with her as long as he did. Once she failed to run down on transition twice in a row Vic said you've made the decision for me.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Huh. I know many don't get to watch many Pac 12 games. I've seen Ionescu play much better than this. She was money from the FT line, but she got off to a slow start and just couldn't hit from the field the whole game. Nowhere near a triple double either. If you were impressed with her tonight, you should see her when she plays well.
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I hear ya, but she's not usually playing a team this good either

She didn't have her jump shot tonight but she kept grinding, kept making plays, and helped her team win. That's the mark of a great player. Her effort level never wavers even when it isn't going her way.

This was like a "C" game for her and she had 29, 5 & 5. Not many people can call that an off game.
 
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