Mets "hot" stove

[the Q]

Can someone explain why this is a good idea:

Brodie Van Wagenen follows path of Bob Myers

So may conflicts. Such. Bad idea

 

[8893]

Unreal:

Edwin Diaz Has Bone Spur Condition – Mets Merized Online

 

[the Q]

Unreal:

Edwin Diaz Has Bone Spur Condition – Mets Merized Online

At least this isn’t news.

He’s had it since he was drafted

 

[Dove]

Mets fans last year: "THEY NEVER SPEND ANY MONEY!!!!!!"

Mets fans now: "THAT'S TOO MUCH MONEY"!!!!!!!

 

[Dooley]

Unreal:

Edwin Diaz Has Bone Spur Condition – Mets Merized Online

At least this isn’t news.

He’s had it since he was drafted

Yes, but bringing a guy in with any sort of medical history to the most dysfunctional medical staff in pro sports is awfully dicey. Yet another reason why including Kelenic for a closer (with bone spurs) is a terrible idea.

 

[Dooley]

Mets fans last year: "THEY NEVER SPEND ANY MONEY!!!!!!"

Mets fans now: "THAT'S TOO MUCH MONEY"!!!!!!!

It's got to be soooooooo frustrating because both of these "quotes" are spot on. I guess you can morph the tones of these two into one: "The Mets never spend any (smart) money".

 

[8893]

"The Mets never spend any (smart) money".

Yes, that's the point. They rarely spend wisely. If this deal won't limit what they'll spend to fill the remaining holes and also re-sign deGrom next year, I don't care about the money.

 

[Dooley]

Yes, that's the point. They rarely spend wisely. If this deal won't limit what they'll spend to fill the remaining holes and also re-sign deGrom next year, I don't care about the money.

Agree. I don't know why paying Cano $20M/yr for his ages 36-41 seasons became a priority over paying those same or similar dollars to keep deGrom.

 

[the Q]

Agree. I don't know why paying Cano $20M/yr for his ages 36-41 seasons became a priority over paying those same or similar dollars to keep deGrom.

They should be selling high on deform or at least be ready to sell at the as break.

Mets are just always stuck in neutral

 

[Waquoit]

Agree. I don't know why paying Cano $20M/yr for his ages 36-41 seasons became a priority over paying those same or similar dollars to keep deGrom.

Because they had to "make a move".

 

[the Q]

Because they had to "make a move".

yeah, that's basically it.

I would've used that Cano money on Grandal.

But that's just me.

 

[Deepster]

Wake up this morning to hear buzz around a Thor to Yanks 3 way deal. Awesome. Why make the Cano/Diaz deal, then move a 26 yr old under contract that throws 101 all game?

Not sure what the Mets/BVW fascination is with JT Realmuto either.

 

[8893]

Wake up this morning to hear buzz around a Thor to Yanks 3 way deal. Awesome. Why make the Cano/Diaz deal, then move a 26 yr old under contract that throws 101 all game?

Not sure what the Mets/BVW fascination is with JT Realmuto either.

This is the first I'm hearing of this, but I am okay with trading Thor for the right offer, and catcher has been a huge weakness of ours for a while. As hard as he throws, I can't see Thor avoiding the need for TJ surgery within the next few years. The best thing about deGrom is that he's already had it. With our luck we would pony up to re-sign Thor and then he would need the surgery, putting him out of commission for the better part of two seasons.

 

[Deepster]

Familia back for 3 years. Love this move. Gselman, Familia, Diaz could be a lights out 8th and 9th.

 

[Dooley]

Good signing for the Mets. Just need a LHP for the pen and all of a sudden, the end game is very solid.

Need more bats but still obviously plenty of time before spring training.

 

[the Q]

Can’t complain about that price for familia.

Now get a real cf and c help.

 

[the Q]

I will say while the Cano deal wasn’t bad, there were way more efficient ways to make the Mets better.

Just dumping Frazier and non tendering darnaud gets you a good portion of the way to a grandal contract.

 

[Alum86]

If Plawecki and D’Arnaud are on this team come spring training........Bad

 

[lavuuk153]

Mets sign Ramos for 2/19. I love that signing. Get Pollock and Miller and let’s roll.

 

[lavuuk153]

Even better, it’s 2/17.5 with a 10 mil club option or 1.5 buyout. This should be great value.

 

[Dooley]

Looks like the Marlins significantly overplayed their hand. I like this move for the Mets far more than any potential move to trade Rosario/Conforto/Thor to land Realmuto. That's an extremely club friendly deal; Ramos is really good.

 

[the Q]

Looks like the Marlins significantly overplayed their hand. I like this move for the Mets far more than any potential move to trade Rosario/Conforto/Thor to land Realmuto. That's an extremely club friendly deal; Ramos is really good.

Someone is going to run out of spots at the table. But having Ramos and Grandal out there didn’t help.

I still think the Sox should sign Grandal and trade some of the other catching for bullpen or 2b help (not counting on pedroia at all)

 

[Deepster]

BVW is proving to be no joke so far. Wow. Upgrades everywhere with deGrom, Thor, Conforto and Rosario still on the roster.

 

[8893]

Looks like the Marlins significantly overplayed their hand. I like this move for the Mets far more than any potential move to trade Rosario/Conforto/Thor to land Realmuto. That's an extremely club friendly deal; Ramos is really good.

Yeah I like this move a lot; I just hope he can avoid the injury bug.

 

[Dooley]

Someone is going to run out of spots at the table. But having Ramos and Grandal out there didn’t help.

I still think the Sox should sign Grandal and trade some of the other catching for bullpen or 2b help (not counting on pedroia at all)

Agree. Grandal might find a sluggish market given just how many catchers are/were available out there. He comes with a loss of draft pick and $500K International money. Ramos was "free" and the Mets also got very good club friendly terms. If he stays healthy, it's a steal.

Aside: this is the type of stuff that the next CBA needs to clean up. Teams are already penny pinching to find surplus value in all of their contracts on the books. Losing a draft pick and/or international slot money makes it nearly impossible for guys like Grandal and many other "non-Machado/Harper" free agents to find a deal.