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Yeah...but...I could see, if the football goes NFL like to a super league...a break-off also of basketball in an NBA type format.

And yeah, some of the schools in a BB super league would have a football program in the football superleague....In last season's Elite Eight, I see five, maybe six, who would be in the football superleague...teams in the Sweet Sixteen like Bama, Tenn., Auburn, Michigan State, Florida, Michigan....maybe Arkansas, Ole Miss, Maryland if they get carried in by being in a P2...
There is no chance we’d be part of a Football super league and if the football schools dictate everything why wouldnt they want to host their own bball tourney too and sell their tv rights together. At least that’s always been the assumption/fear. We just have to hope they are happy with expanding March madness and then settle for getting our football team into a conference of leftovers.
 
Wait.. what football conference did we get an invite from??
Last October, the Pac was interested in adding UConn to the conference, either as a football-only add or as a full member.

UConn rejected things before talks got serious. I can’t imagine at that point the Pac had many details with regards to media, and I’m not even sure where their membership was at that point.

It’s unpopular with the fanbase, but I do think it would be a great football-only move, especially while the conference is small and west coast trips would be limited to 4 or 5 a year. It would be a step-up in competition and would be a significant boost to football revenue.
 
Last October, the Pac was interested in adding UConn to the conference, either as a football-only add or as a full member.

UConn rejected things before talks got serious. I can’t imagine at that point the Pac had many details with regards to media, and I’m not even sure where their membership was at that point.

It’s unpopular with the fanbase, but I do think it would be a great football-only move, especially while the conference is small and west coast trips would be limited to 4 or 5 a year. It would be a step-up in competition and would be a significant boost to football revenue.
The only way that makes sense is if we play four eastern P4 schools H/H every year. Other than Boise State, the others don’t move the needle.
 
The only way that makes sense is if we play four eastern P4 schools H/H every year. Other than Boise State, the others don’t move the needle.
And Ball State, Rice, FIU, and UAB do? You can’t tell me Wazzu and Oregon State aren’t more interesting year in and year out. Plus Boise State. And Colorado State, Fresno, and SDSU have solid G5 programs. Nothing to turn your nose up at.
 
I don’t know what other moves would be happening in tandem, but if it’s just Memphis to the BE and nothing else, I’d take that

They’d pretty comfortably be top 5 in the conference and give us another consistent tournament threat (made 3 of the last 4 tournaments)

Hardaway is sleazy, but the conference has embraced Rick Pitino as one of its star coaches. They’re far, but 2 of our best teams are in Milwaukee and Omaha.

Why is this bad?
Leagues exist beyond coaches.
Any decision made because of a coach is silly.
 
And Ball State, Rice, FIU, and UAB do? You can’t tell me Wazzu and Oregon State aren’t more interesting year in and year out. Plus Boise State. And Colorado State, Fresno, and SDSU have solid G5 programs. Nothing to turn your nose up at.
I blocked shizzle years ago so can only guess what he’s saying but he would find a reason to complain about joining the BIG10.
 
And Ball State, Rice, FIU, and UAB do? You can’t tell me Wazzu and Oregon State aren’t more interesting year in and year out. Plus Boise State. And Colorado State, Fresno, and SDSU have solid G5 programs. Nothing to turn your nose up at.
The PAC would be a step up and (if the terms are right) would demonstrate the commitment to football. The Mora hire was an excellent move & the program’s tending up up but I think our independent schedule, with no virtual path to the CFB playoff, is holding us back.

Most of us would have thought basketball dominance would have punched our ticket by now but it obviously hasn’t. Do we think we just one more men’s championship gets us into a P4? - maybe, but I hope UConn’s learned that elevating FB too is necessary.
 
Deciding doesn't seem to be an issue in football...how is Ole Miss and Purdue in a P2 ? And Clemson not ?

Those that make the decisions do so...and seem to sleep at night.

Ultimately, those that pay for the rights to televise will have the say...and conjure the metrics necessary to justify their wants.
Ole Miss and Purdue haven't wo n multiple national championships
 
And Ball State, Rice, FIU, and UAB do? You can’t tell me Wazzu and Oregon State aren’t more interesting year in and year out. Plus Boise State. And Colorado State, Fresno, and SDSU have solid G5 programs. Nothing to turn your nose up at.
Some of the Pac-12 schools are more interesting than the four you mentioned, but the average UConn fan doesn't car about west coast G6 programs.
 
Oregon State, Washington State, Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State, Utah State, Texas State, Memphis and UConn.

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It's reported that the current Pac 12 deal is worth $10 million per school. That probably makes it financially worth it. Even after subtracting out the additional travel costs that's probably worth twice the Big East media deal.
 
Some of the Pac-12 schools are more interesting than the four you mentioned, but the average UConn fan doesn't car about west coast G6 programs.
This is kind of the problem. The AAC was actually a pretty decent league at first (not so much any more) but people made fun of Tulsa, SMH, etc. and people stopped going to the games. I understand the team also got really bad over those years, but fans need to show up and support them regardless. Now it's an uphill battle to get anyone to go to the Rent. Whatever UConn does, whether it's P-12, Independent, or anything else, people need to show up and support them.
 
Ole Miss and Purdue haven't wo n multiple national championships
True...while Clemson has...three football NC's...and four men's soccer (84. 87. 21, 23)....but of those, it is only football that gets noticed
 
True...while Clemson has...three football NC's...and four men's soccer (84. 87. 21, 23)....but of those, it is only football that gets noticed
I thought we were talking about basketball. If you're saying no one notices basketball, then none of this matters.
 
Oh we can talk basketball...and basketball matters...but, when conference realignments center around basketball, it will be a new dynamic. Even the ACC has instituted payout based on viewing...and split that payout 75% football...25% basketball. Will Gonzaga be more likely to be pulled to the P2 than Clemson?

I do believe that Caitlin Clark has brought new awareness and enthusiasm to women's basketball and that is a good thing.
 
And that kind of revenue split migrated to other conferences could make taking basketball programs very palatable since they would be less likely to threaten a share of current member's slice of the big football pie. I could see the B1G augmenting basketball.
 
This is all about money
My specific caveats
If Memphis increases the Big East Payout that could be even marginal
If The payout as a football only in the new PAc is close to 11 figures
And that league takes both us and Memphis as football onlies
Then UConn would be a yes vote for Memphis’s inclusion into the Big East
That puts our combined media deal over $20,000,000
and insures football funding to keep us alive
That also gives us and Memphis a degree of separation from the G6
and the Big East .
 
The PAC would need a certain number of basketball games for a football "only" invite to materialize. Even then not so sure. But they have needs we could help fill.
 
The PAC would be a step up and (if the terms are right) would demonstrate the commitment to football. The Mora hire was an excellent move & the program’s tending up up but I think our independent schedule, with no virtual path to the CFB playoff, is holding us back.

Most of us would have thought basketball dominance would have punched our ticket by now but it obviously hasn’t. Do we think we just one more men’s championship gets us into a P4? - maybe, but I hope UConn’s learned that elevating FB too is necessary.
You know who knows that? AD Dave. Heard him say almost that exact thing at 2 basketball pre-game road gatherings.
 
This is kind of the problem. The AAC was actually a pretty decent league at first (not so much any more) but people made fun of Tulsa, SMH, etc. and people stopped going to the games. I understand the team also got really bad over those years, but fans need to show up and support them regardless. Now it's an uphill battle to get anyone to go to the Rent. Whatever UConn does, whether it's P-12, Independent, or anything else, people need to show up and support them.
I’m not sure that it is entirely true that UConn fans don’t/won’t care about PAC teams. If one is Memphis, plus Boise San Diego St, OState and Washington State both have a little panache I think.
More than Tulsa and Tulane and SMU. The Wyoming game a few years back generated a bit of buzz in an absolutely buzz less season, too. That league aims to be the best G league. More likely than not it’s champ will go to the CFP most years.

Plus I’m not sure why the PAC would “require” a certain number of basketball games. I can see why it might be beneficial to both parties to do it, and in a relationship driven world it could happen, but UConn-Gonzaga, or San Diego State, or Utah State would be interesting games. Better than Seton Hall or Georgetown or DePaul. All would help not hurt rankings, too.
 
Oregon State, Washington State, Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State, Utah State, Texas State, Memphis and UConn.

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It's reported that the current Pac 12 deal is worth $10 million per school. That probably makes it financially worth it. Even after subtracting out the additional travel costs that's probably worth twice the Big East media deal.

It’s actually been reported that the P12 deal is well short of $10M.

It’s an absolute dog of a conference.
 
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