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coachcap said:
It's official. ESPN Radio just announced it on the 5 P.M. Sportscenter update. Joining for 2013 season.
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There's nothing shocking about this at all. ESPN will spin it that way. Memphis basketball has been a target for Big East expansion since the 2002 split.

The shocking thing about big east expansion in this go around, is that football decision making and priority has overwhelmingly come in top priority. The conference, nevertheless, is still a hybrid. Memphis basketball will be a nice addition. Memphis football? Well, I guarantee that anybody associated wiht Memphis football is ecstatic.

As for the other 10 football playing members? I can speak as a fan of one of them, I'm pretty happy that Memphis is on board, because that's a program that's going to be quite a bit behind for at least a couple years, and every conference that has a 10, 11, 12 game winner, is going to have a team on the bottom end that doesn't have many wins, and I most definitely want to be the team that's getting the 10,11,12 wins.
 
It's actually more than a little shocking. The league presidents have always screened out Memphis for their academics and their inability to even pretend to abide by a rule book

It's another sign that UL is not long for the league.
 
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Fishy said:
It's actually more than a little shocking. The league presidents have always screened out Memphis for their academics and their inability to even pretend to abide by a rule book

It's another sign that UL is not long for the league.
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Or it is a sign that the second and third tier schools are firmly in charge of conference membership, which is even worse than UL being gone.
 
John Greene said:
Or it is a sign that the second and third tier schools are firmly in charge of conference membership, which is even worse than UL being gone.
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It's both. I can't believe ND can be looking forward to being in the same conference with West Tennessee State. Lew Perkins warned the state legislature, etc that UConn would be left behind in the coming split if we didn't upgrade football. This may be worse. Surprise, we let some CUSA schools in and the next thing you know they are recreating the Metro Conference and we have no better options.
 
look at the bright side if in fact they do make it necessary to win 7 games in order to make a bowl game it doesnt hurt to have a few easy wins on the schedule
 
For everyone bashing the move - what were the other (realistic) options?

Not saying I'm thrilled about it, but at this point it's grab the biggest name and markets available.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
For everyone bashing the move - what were the other (realistic) options?

Not saying I'm thrilled about it, but at this point it's grab the biggest name and markets available.
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I would have approached Temple (don't know if you consider that realistic with Nova's BCU-like stonewall), UNLV, Tulane, Tulsa, Fresno State, and Nevada before Memphis.
 
MattMang23 said:
I would have approached Temple (don't know if you consider that realistic with Nova's BCU-like stonewall), UNLV, Tulane, Tulsa, Fresno State, and Nevada before Memphis.
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Fair enough, Memphis and Temple are one in the same to me. Temple has been a lot stronger in football recently, I will give them that. Temple would be the logical replacement if Louisville goes to the BigXII.

BE East: UConn, Rutgers, Louisville, Cincinnati, Navy, USF

BE West: Boise State, Houston, SMU, UCF, SDSU, Memphis
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
Fair enough, Memphis and Temple are one in the same to me. Temple has been a lot stronger in football recently, I will give them that. Temple would be the logical replacement if Louisville goes to the BigXII.

BE East: UConn, Rutgers, Louisville, Cincinnati, Navy, USF

BE West: Boise State, Houston, SMU, UCF, SDSU, Memphis
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Um, I think you need to swap UCF and the Ville.
 
gioff23 said:
Um, I think you need to swap UCF and the Ville.
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Doubt it. If Louisville is still in this version of the Big East they are going to demand (and rightfully so) to be aligned with the post 2003 "Original" BE members. There's no way a competent AD like Tom Jurich lets Louisville get further mired down in with all C-USA and MTN West teams.

UCF and USF even though they would be in different divisions will have an annual game.
 
Navy doesnt come on board until 2015 there doesnt have to be a rush to add anyone. why not wait out or BYU? then you could add a team to the western division that is actually in the west. Memphis wasnt going anywhere fast they were available today they would have been available in 2013 when we needed to send out the invite to get a team in the same time as Navy.
 
They can negotiate a championship game come September

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Big East Commissioner John Marinatto said the league needs to get its expansion plans settled by September 2012 when it begins television contract negotiations.

The Big East current has a television contract with ESPN that expires at the conclusion of the 2012-13 academic year. Marinatto said the Big East will begin a 60-day exclusive negotiation period with ESPN in September 2012
 
If Uconn is going to be stuck in this conference, then I have some demands, namely leveraging this new schools for better bowl tie-ins. I'm talking Liberty Bowl, Florida, Texas, Houston, Las Vegas, and New Orleans, especially if we are stuck playing the 2nd or 3rd bowl game in each local.
 
SubbaBub said:
If Uconn is going to be stuck in this conference, then I have some demands, namely leveraging this new schools for better bowl tie-ins. I'm talking Liberty Bowl, Florida, Texas, Houston, Las Vegas, and New Orleans, especially if we are stuck playing the 2nd or 3rd bowl game in each local.
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It would be great if the Big East champ could play in the Cotton bowl now that we have three teams near Dallas. "The Fed Ex Cotton Bowl"?
 
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I still don't see the need for 12 football teams and a championship game no one will watch. Put together the best 10 teams you can, instead of projects and reaches like Memphis and SMU. And if the AQ status is gone, so will go Boise.
 
^^^This.^^^

Perhaps there's back channels to NBC or whoever that's driving this, but I find it hard to believe Memphis is some executive's piece of the puzzle.
 
husky10 said:
Navy doesnt come on board until 2015 there doesnt have to be a rush to add anyone. why not wait out or BYU? then you could add a team to the western division that is actually in the west. Memphis wasnt going anywhere fast they were available today they would have been available in 2013 when we needed to send out the invite to get a team in the same time as Navy.
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I think this is a signal that we are going to have 12 teams before Navy even comes on board. They want to have 12 teams and a championship game going into the first year of the new contract. With Navy not coming until 2015 they don't help with that stated goal. It's all about quantity of inventory and markets at this point. Marrinato has stated that they may not stop at 12 and this move of adding Memphis strongly suggests that they are going to have at least 14 teams for football by 2015. I think that UNLV or Temple should now be added for 2013 and they should try to bring in either BYU or, more likely, Air Force to compliment Navy in 2015.
 
Tranghese was responsible for this decision and again no thought process was implemented. He has single handily destroyed this league and I can't understand why he still has any credibility.
 
So the Catholic schools are pretty much developing athletic departments for other conferences?!
 
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I know I've mentioned this a couple times here before but I've got to do it again now that Memphis is in the Big East.

If this offer is still valid - and maybe it's one of the reasons Memphis WAS added, I don't know - the BE should try to raid one or more of the other BCS conferences to get a football power by offering the money to one or more schools to join. The Big12 would appear to be the most vulnerable but I'd go after anybody and everybody in the other 5 BCSers, got nothing to lose.

Alternatively: 1) I'd offer it to Notre Dame to join for football and then try to get others to join, or 2) I'd offer it to one or more basketball powers in the other BCSers.

Of course, it would be best if all the current football members would commit to the conference for X amount of years too.
 
Fishy said:
It's actually more than a little shocking. The league presidents have always screened out Memphis for their academics and their inability to even pretend to abide by a rule book

It's another sign that UL is not long for the league.
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My only glimmer of hope rests on the notion that the league thought it needed a basketball school to replace UCONN. Otherwise this is a nightmare. It's like we are hanging out a sign, do you play BCS football? Are you one if the worst universities that do? Come to the Big East!
 
zls44 said:
Can't wait for Carl Spackler to explain how this will take the TV money to $25 million/year.
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Dude. You don't get it. Memphis is in Memphis, and Fed Ex is in Memphis. This means there is one degree of seperation between us and Fed Ex.

Recruits will love this. We are like the new SEC. Plus just think of all those recruits who have been dreaming about playing in the Libert Bowl.
 
TRest said:
I still don't see the need for 12 football teams and a championship game no one will watch. Put together the best 10 teams you can, instead of projects and reaches like Memphis and SMU. And if the AQ status is gone, so will go Boise.
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AQ status is gone. The BCS will never be that overt about the conference hierarchy again. The danger is that unless the BE can schedule and win big games it will become a defacto mid-major where being the only champ with an undefeated season gets you in the playoff as no one-loss BE would ever Trump a one-loss from the other 5 conferences.


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SubbaBub said:
AQ status is gone. The BCS will never be that overt about the conference hierarchy again. The danger is that unless the BE can schedule and win big games it will become a defacto mid-major where being the only champ with an undefeated season gets you in the playoff as no one-loss BE would ever Trump a one-loss from the other 5 conferences.
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Eric Burdon and the Animals had it right: "We gotta get out of this place, If it's the last thing we ever do."

 
SubbaBub said:
AQ status is gone. The BCS will never be that overt about the conference hierarchy again. The danger is that unless the BE can schedule and win big games it will become a defacto mid-major where being the only champ with an undefeated season gets you in the playoff as no one-loss BE would ever Trump a one-loss from the other 5 conferences.


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Yes, true. But so what? It was just that very condition that has led to where we are right now, i.e., the potential for BE exclusion from BCS, or AQ status. Look, when a 4 loss Connecticut goes to the Fiesta Bowl - by right - then you gotta get that things are going to change, quickly. That's not going to happen again. The big boy conferences have been watching it happen out of the BE for too many years, and they just don't want it. Neither do the networks. Follow the money. So, yes, just like Boise, Houston, TCU, and any other non big league member, the BE champ is going to have to all the way to get the invite. From now on. If it makes this any easier, do you think the Rose Bowl wants Indiana to win the B1g? Does the Fiesta want Iowa State? Same thing.
 
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