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sportsart said:
The one thing we could always, or almost always count on with Randy, is we would win the games we were supposed to win. Not many WTF games.

He did go 9-3 one year, so there's that. :)
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He went 9-3 more than once.
 
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Member when... we used to go .500 in conference?
Member when... we used to win 7-8 games every year?
Member when... we had a competent O-line?

I would love to set the bar higher than Edsall, but after this 6-year nightmare I would kill for 8 wins and a mediocre/decent bowl game.
 
Randy knows building a staff, managing a staff, winning the x ands os on the field and managing young men. The only question is whether he can up the recruiting a notch in order to be less dependent on finding diamonds in the rough.

Another thought, Edsall maybe angling that he's the guy to get back to 9 win seasons and won't leave for the next gig. He's probably pitching that he'll coach here ten years and then retire, so I'll be your last hire - you won't be doing this again.
 
noeynox said:
Randy Edsall, is Al Groh, Glen Mason esqe.

8-5, is about your ceiling with a chance at 9-3. 5-7, is your floor with a chance at 4-8. You'll almost always be competitive. He will tell fans they have no right to have expectations (he did), he will blame every loss on lack of execution by the players. He will break his arm patting himself on the back and praising the coaches when they win, see the ND on field post game interview.

After the last two coaches, I welcome him back, but I'm not running to renew tickets until I see he has a plan in place for the offense that is different than what he had here last time.
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Don't say that. You'll get @businesslawyer aroused. He loves those guys.

Edsall basically won the MAC without being in the MAC. His style works in a mid major setting but falls short in the high major setting.

I think he's great when he's mining high schools for under the radar types. He sucks when he has to hit above that weight class. He can go 9-3 in the AAC.
 
ktuck911 said:
Upside - he'll get us playing aggressive style football.. making plays on D... downside - offense won't be great but the one positive is we can sure as heck (and will) run the football...AND one final positive - SPECIAL TEAMS!!!

Edsall addresses all facets of the game unlike his potential predecessor Diaco....

So, as much as I actually don't think I want him back, Edsall knows UConn. He got his start here... Now, maybe, just maybe, he has more tools now than he did 5/6 years ago to finish what he started...
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@ktuck911 are you sure you watched the same UConn football teams I did? Edsall's D is just like Diaco's minus the 3-4 set. The ONLY time he let Orlando set up a game plan was when they smacked South Carolina in Birmingham at the papa John's Bowl.
 
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would anyone be surprised ot see Randy win the conference in year 4?
 
I'm conflicted.
I hated the way he left. I hated him constantly blaming execution of the players on every loss.

However, we were far from the laughingstock we are now when Edsall was in charge. I was also in ND when Edsall (and Foley's) offensive line basically pushed ND around like a rag doll. For all the talk about how ground and pound is boring, we grounded and pounded the hell out of ND in the 4th quarter and OT and it was the most exhilarating win I ever saw in person. They had absolutely no answers for us. I sure didn't feel bored on that night.

I'd love this hire if Edsall had an open mind offensively. But I guess worst case scenario if he came here calling the shots, and still bored us to 7 or 8 wins every year until the time the B1G starts the next conference realignment earthquake, I guess I could sign up for it.

Conflicted, funny how that word is still around even after Diaco.
 
superjohn said:
Lol @ people bringing up Bill Snyder and Petrino in regards to Edsall. They aren't even in the same coaching Universe. This would be about the most uninspired hire and I think some fans would check out.
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You mean, the fans that just checked back in 24 hrs ago would check back out?
 
ZooCougar said:
Don't say that. You'll get @businesslawyer aroused. He loves those guys.

Edsall basically won the MAC without being in the MAC. His style works in a mid major setting but falls short in the high major setting.

I think he's great when he's mining high schools for under the radar types. He sucks when he has to hit above that weight class. He can go 9-3 in the AAC.
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It took a lot of pain, but I knew you'd come around. If he's hired, I'm going to miss our back and forth. Actually, no I'm not....;)
 
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Maryland hired him as they transitioned to the Big 10 and an immediate upgrade in competition. That being said he needed locksley to recruit well there
 
I could make a great argument for a bunch of coaches, but since it's an Edsall thread, then here goes.

-He'll be here until he retires. So we get stability with him.

-I have little doubt that he will be successful, he basically designed the program and the facilities. I doubt they have been leveraged to full effect since he left.

-He tends to hire competent assistants. Look at how many of his guys are prospering as coordinators throughout the sport.

-I don't care who we hire. We're not going to recruit 4-5 stars until we cheat. So we need solid evaluators of 2-3 star level talent and solid coaches to develop them. His track record in that dept is pretty much as good as it gets.
 
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FDNY99 said:
@ktuck911 are you sure you watched the same UConn football teams I did? Edsall's D is just like Diaco's minus the 3-4 set. The ONLY time he let Orlando set up a game plan was when they smacked South Carolina in Birmingham at the papa John's Bowl.
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Which was weird, because I specifically remember him saying after that game that they blitzed a lot because he knew that was something they needed to start doing to take the next step as a program. Then we didn't see it next year, though to be fair we obviously had success the next season
 
The Viking said:
I'm conflicted.
I hated the way he left. I hated him constantly blaming execution of the players on every loss.
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I have never seen a coach throw more players under the bus. The notion Edsall will bring UConn back to respectability is ridiculous. A lot has changed since he was the coach here.
 
Checkmate said:
I have never seen a coach throw more players under the bus. The notion Edsall will bring UConn back to respectability is ridiculous. A lot has changed since he was the coach here.
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Okay, but our recently departed coach never met a bad play or player. Everything was great all of the time, particularly the play of the players. Pass the love.
 
We have to do better than RE at this time.
The more years that pass the less a militaryesque conservative RE coaching style resonates with players in recruiting and on the field this day and age.

Sure he could wins some games.
I can't see him putting new fanny's in the seats or recruit players that would make him thing he could change his conservative style( I think he explained his conservative approach to the players skill set at one point late in his tenure at UConn)

He coached UConn when we had time and no expectations. We have the leisure of neither this time around.
I would hate him as head coach and I think it would be a very weak hire by DB.
I would however not hate him as a coordinator. I do like his ability to evaluate and develop talent.
 
sdhusky said:
I guess MD's is 7.

Schiano won 11 in NJ State. UConn can win more than 8.

I personally, would be happy to see Randy come back. We might not go to another Fiesta Bowl, but I have no doubt we'll be bowling most years.
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Edsall won ore than 8 here.

Edsall failed big time at Maryland. I'm not asking for him to be rehired -- I would have to understand much better than I do why he failed at Maryland so badly to consider it. But I firmly believe -- always have -- that people have thought what he achieved here was easy when it was exremely difficult, and that it's just as likely that future coaches achieve at the P/Diacco levels than the Edsall levels. But feel free to just go on blaming bad hiring (not you SDH). People want us to hire a Calhoun -- it's incredibly unlikely.
 
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Christ read the comments from Edsall after he was s$&t canned from Maryland he sounds like Diaco. "We made the program better, developing kids, etc.".

Goodness this is a bad idea, he's not close to Bill Snyder (I say they from experience of watching KSU ALOT from my time in KC) and if Edsall is the "home run" hire I guess i'"" have to adjust my expectations going forward.

He made few friends at UM and had a middling record. He played the role of hard ass football guy to the t. He was like Coughlin before Coighlon got the message that it wasn't 1960 any longer and it was ok to let players have a personality.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Yeah, would really suck the energy out of a program by bringing back the guy who won our league twice in his last four seasons.

Everyone wants a shiny new toy and that's exactly what Diaco was. Once Randy got us going wed be at the top of the AAC every season.
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Agee 100%
 
Edsall is likly to get this job because i) they can afford him, ii) he's an adult who wont be learning on the job, iii) he is proven at assembling a staff, iv) he's going to pitch the administration that he'll stay for life - not looking to job hop. Randy knows his opportunities beyond this job are not very good.

Unless Moorhead or Miles come barging through the door, I think its Edsall. The problem with the former choices - $$ - if they are at all interested.
 
ZooCougar said:
Don't say that. You'll get @businesslawyer aroused. He loves those guys.

Edsall basically won the MAC without being in the MAC. His style works in a mid major setting but falls short in the high major setting.

I think he's great when he's mining high schools for under the radar types. He sucks when he has to hit above that weight class. He can go 9-3 in the AAC.
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That, by the way, is quite plausible. But it would be an argument for why he could succeed here -- the athletes you need to beat Clemson and Michigan State just might not be willing to be controlled the way that the athletes you need to beat Cincy and USF are.
 
amory said:
Come on back and let's win some football games like we used to.

I'd be psyched
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For the life of me, in all seriousness, I fail to see the attraction of this guy. Win some football games? Diaco did that. I'd like to win a lot of football games. Don't believe Edsall is the coach to do that. If these donors as some have postulated put money up to get rid of Diaco and in return get their wish to have Edsall come back, then we as the fans are in a lot of trouble.
 
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