Maybe UConn should just stay in the AAC

[crewbear742]

The marginal financial benefit that must be achieved with expansion increases with every additional school added. If the B1G expands again, it will have to be a guaranteed financial home run. That would lead one to suspect expansion would have to involve a school of the caliber of Texas. If so, it would make sense for the B1G to add Kansas with Texas due to its location. In addition, Kansas is also AAU and Kansas basketball is valuable in its own right. I have read that AAU status is not simply about academic prestige, but also conveys financial benefit on its own to do collaborative efforts across B1G universities in winning grants. However, I do not have data on this.

UConn might get a look as 18 (assuming it makes AAU status), but that seems a big reach financially for the B1G, and I am not sure who the 17th school would be.

 

[Adios]

Delany has continually made clear they are interested in the east coast. He is still talking about the east coast. Not the Great Plains.

 

[Ldandy]

I completely get the frustration that Uconn Fans feel. Your situation sucks, and none of what has happened has been fair. That said there is at least one more upheaval on the horizon. I can not see the Big 12 staying together as currently configured at the end of its media contract. Someone will blink, and the realignment wheel will once again start spinning. Does that guarantee Uconn a spot in a P5 Conference? No, but the opportunity may still be out there. A new coach and improved football could make a world of difference.

 

[FartMan69]

You obviously can't compute Spartacus. It's not what I think. Notice I also mentioned New England. Nor did I say dying. Now shut up. Your Spartacus gets old. "Oh, we haven't been taken, so they don't want us!" So lame. We get so much publicity in conference expansion with some wondering why we're not even in a "P5" conference, yet, you come up with nelson-level stupid conclusions.

Usually when you're wanted they choose you. You're the only one who thinks this, Congrats

 

[whaler11]

Delany has continually made clear they are interested in the east coast. He is still talking about the east coast. Not the Great Plains.

It's more likely that you get struck by lightning while abducted on a UFO than UConn gets invited to the Big 10.

 

[Adios]

It's more likely that you get struck by lightning while abducted on a UFO than UConn gets invited to the Big 10.

I am sure that's why we got Big Ten fans here pushing for us. Had no idea lightning and UFOs would have me in mind.

 

[whaler11]

I am sure that's why we got Big Ten fans here pushing for us. Had no idea lightning and UFOs would have me in mind.

Oh there are 3-4 people on a message board. That changes everything.

 

[Adios]

Oh there are 3-4 people on a message board. That changes everything.

At least some of their fans are thinking of us.

There's probably more Big Ten fans that frequent here than fans of other AAC schools.

 

[whaler11]

At least some of their fans are thinking of us.

There's probably more Big Ten fans that frequent here than fans of other AAC schools.

I do feel like of all the people I know.. you might be the most likely to be abducted by aliens.

 

[Stray_Dog]

...well I met the little green men and the reptilian people, and the grays...and they sat me in a chair and I was struck by lightning... and in my mind they communicated to me, that - that was the good news -knowing I was to survive, the bad news, we're returning you to CT where UConn has no shot of a Big anything invite.

P.S. Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[Towney007]

I know enough higher ups in Athletic admins in P5 conferences to know enough we're not viewed - in any way - as undeserving. Right now TV rules the roost and so does, well... structural stuff. TV is on the fence with us, but we're certainly and upgrade over many of the P5 dredges (E.G. more people watch our women's hoops program than anything Wake Forest has). It's a matter of making it work structurally - and a lot of the schools that would make sense are scattered and different structurally. So it makes pairing us off complex. As a one off - that's harder because of scheduling.

So it's a matter of fit and a conference willing to take a risk structurally or rocking the boat a bit on the TV side to make it happen. Truth be told, I'm not sure we even *have* to get invited, but I think eventually we will. I *do* think there's be obvious changes if it doesn't happen sooner rather than later; but ultimately basketball is the school's real asset. Push comes to shove, the difficult moves the school is going to have to make will be centered on protecting that asset, not detracting from it.

 

[billybud]

It is crucial to keep men's basketball in the top tier....rankings in the top 25, elite 8 appearances will continue to attract recruits.

Women's basketball will always be the top dog...into the foreseeable future.

 

[HuskyinWRNY]

I said it before, we're on the Big Ten's radar. If you don't want to believe me, fine. All I will even say on the matter.

I'd like to think this is true, but we will always come up short in any major expansion. There isn't a conference around that needs, nor wants us. Sorry.

 

[HuskyinWRNY]

FWIW, as soon as one traditional football power commits, I think UConn will be paired up and will get the invite.

Never happen.

 

[Seaa Blue]

Do you think the league that took Rutgers would stop there?

 

[uconnell]

The marginal financial benefit that must be achieved with expansion increases with every additional school added. If the B1G expands again, it will have to be a guaranteed financial home run. That would lead one to suspect expansion would have to involve a school of the caliber of Texas. If so, it would make sense for the B1G to add Kansas with Texas due to its location. In addition, Kansas is also AAU and Kansas basketball is valuable in its own right. I have read that AAU status is not simply about academic prestige, but also conveys financial benefit on its own to do collaborative efforts across B1G universities in winning grants. However, I do not have data on this.

UConn might get a look as 18 (assuming it makes AAU status), but that seems a big reach financially for the B1G, and I am not sure who the 17th school would be.

The marginal financial benefit that must be achieved with expansion increases with every additional school added. If the B1G expands again, it will have to be a guaranteed financial home run. That would lead one to suspect expansion would have to involve a school of the caliber of Texas. If so, it would make sense for the B1G to add Kansas with Texas due to its location. In addition, Kansas is also AAU and Kansas basketball is valuable in its own right. I have read that AAU status is not simply about academic prestige, but also conveys financial benefit on its own to do collaborative efforts across B1G universities in winning grants. However, I do not have data on this.

UConn might get a look as 18 (assuming it makes AAU status), but that seems a big reach financially for the B1G, and I am not sure who the 17th school would be.

If the Big 10 can kick out a team ( Neb) they should be able to push a team into the AAU.

 

[Adios]

I'd like to think this is true, but we will always come up short in any major expansion. There isn't a conference around that needs, nor wants us. Sorry.

Do you know anything about making money? You know UConn has one of the most popular athletic departments in the northeast US, correct?

I can't believe the snow I have to read on this board. It's as if people are devoid of sense and just ramble on.

Next time, direct such a response towards someone else. If you want to believe such, feel free. When PROOF indicates otherwise.

 

[pnow15]

UConn needs to win football games and basketball games and draw fans.
It is that simple. No matter what league.

The AAC will eventually ascend to P-6 if it stays together.
When P-5 conference wants to expand, it looks to the AAC first.
When an AAC football coach is successful he gets hired by the P-5.
Al Davis said it best and forever: Just win baby.

 

[SAMCRO]

UConn needs to win football games and basketball games and draw fans.
It is that simple. No matter what league.

The AAC will eventually ascend to P-6 if it stays together.
When P-5 conference wants to expand, it looks to the AAC first.
When an AAC football coach is successful he gets hired by the P-5.
Al Davis said it best and forever: Just win baby.

Agree on needing to win games, and that will draw fans. It truly is that simple.
No, the AAC will not be a P6, because there won't be a P6... there is a higher likelihood of a P4 than a P6
If P5 consolidates they will absorb some of B12 into various leagues, and UConn and Cinci could be considered in the "pool" of teams P4's might consider (over the likes of a Baylor, ISU, KSU, etc...).
Yup
Yup

 

[Ewekon]

Every time more crap is revealed about Louisville I shudder. Now it is revealed the football program uses stolen Wake Forest info and then denies it before giving it plausibility status at best. They are the academic equal of grades 13 - 16. Pitino molests women, His recruits get hookers. The ACC should be proud.

 

[whaler11]

Every time more crap is revealed about Louisville I shudder. Now it is revealed the football program uses stolen Wake Forest info and then denies it before giving it plausibility status at best. They are the academic equal of grades 13 - 16. Pitino molests women, His recruits get hookers. The ACC should be proud.

So what do you say when you find out Army did too..

 

[billybud]

So what do you say when you find out Army did too..

I'd say that they read Sun Tzu's....Art of War

"
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat."

 

[Ha Who]

So what do you say when you find out Army did too..

The ACC or their fans justified taking Louisville over UConn because we were morally bankrupt. What is Louisville's record justifies this?

 

[billybud]

The ACC fans justified taking Louisville because they wanted and needed an immediate addition to the football side to enhance their upcoming media negotiations. Didn't have anything to do with Uconn "morals".

Morals. Schmorrels....if UConn had been putting its football team into the rankings occasionally, the story would be different.

Folks can attempt to set a different narrative..but it was not morals, not academics...it was overwhelmingly athletics...... in football, basketball, and baseball.

Louisville is #13 in the CFP Rankings

Louisville basketball is currently #10 AP

And Louisville finished #10 in baseball

That is the reason that Louisville was taken by the ACC...

 

[Ha Who]

The ACC fans justified taking Louisville because they wanted and needed an immediate addition to the football side to enhance their upcoming media negotiations. Didn't have anything to do with Uconn "morals".

Morals. Schmorrels....if UConn had been putting its football team into the rankings occasionally, the story would be different.

Folks can attempt to set a different narrative..but it was not morals, not academics...it was overwhelmingly athletics. in football, basketball, and baseball.

Louisville is #13 in the CFP Rankings

Louisville basketball is currently #10 AP

And Louisville finished #10 in baseball

That is the reason that Louisville was taken by the ACC...

In other words they took a morally bankrupt program to justify their greed. No shame in admitting it.

 

[billybud]

They took what they took....and the reasons for taking them are fairly clear.

One can speak from anger or from logic....but yes, Louisville has had some "ethics" problems....and yes, Louisville has had athletic success.

Do they balance? Dunno.

I'm not in the ACC head office...so I don't know Louisville's impact on the improved media deals, the long term GOR extension, or the gaining of a network...

 

[Fishy]

The ACC's ethics align quite nicely with Louisville's.

Half the conference is on probation, their former-top football program couldn't cover up a rape fast enough and their flagship thinks that it should avoid punishment for a few decades of fake classes.

 

[billybud]

I understand the ongoing anger about all things ACC...but that whole Louisville thing will amount less to the conference than the paying of basketball players at Michigan, the free benefits at Ohio State...or the alleged activities at Minnesota, or the moral depravity at PSU meant to the Big Ten.

Other than fodder for internet fan smack, the problems at Louisville, will have little effect...and Louisville is doing what they were supposed to do...putting good athletic teams forward in the three major sports.

 

[Pat125]

I understand the ongoing anger about all things ACC...but that whole Louisville thing will amount less to the conference than the paying of basketball players at Michigan, the free benefits at Ohio State...or the alleged activities at Minnesota, or the moral depravity at PSU meant to the Big Ten.

Other than fodder for internet fan smack, the problems at Louisville, will have little effect...and Louisville is doing what they were supposed to do...putting good athletic teams forward in the three major sports.

I'm not sure that the Big Ten teams you cited were punished enough for their violations. Louisville, however, has so far, faced little or no consequence to their reprehensible actions. As to whether Louisville or other schools are "supposed" to succeed in any sport by cheating, breaking laws, or severely breaching ethics, sadly, there are too many people that not only excuse it, but outright support it.

 

[Sea Goat]

I understand the ongoing anger about all things ACC...but that whole Louisville thing will amount less to the conference than the paying of basketball players at Michigan, the free benefits at Ohio State...or the alleged activities at Minnesota, or the moral depravity at PSU meant to the Big Ten.

Other than fodder for internet fan smack, the problems at Louisville, will have little effect...and Louisville is doing what they were supposed to do...putting good athletic teams forward in the three major sports.

BB, if you care to maintain any credibility or good will, don't compare Louisville to any B1G school, including Rutgers. Plain and simple, Louisville is a joke of a school that runs an athletic department like a street gang. Sure they'll win a fair of games, but always with a backdrop of corruption. It will wear thin - even for you - soon enough. No retort please - we are approaching Christmas and I want to curtail my filleting of BY idiots.