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The CT Sun couldn't even beat NY without Stewart and Laney-Hamilton. Now 0-3 against NY this season (including 0-2 at home). Including last season, they are 1-10 against NY.
 
cancontent said:
No, but that's a separate issue. NBA draft picks had a couple months before they participate in summer league. If WNBA players had that at least, I'd relent but not by much.

Also, why should WNBA players have to play virtually all year round? They all need time to rest, recuperate and rebuild their strength.
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The owner and founder of the wnba, the nba, set up the womens league in the summer so as to not compete with the nba. All the other womens leagues in others countries are, not surprisingly, during the regular basketball season.

If the USA had pro womens hoops during basketball season, this idea of going overseas to play in another league would not be an issue.
 
bbsamjj said:
The CT Sun couldn't even beat NY without Stewart and Laney-Hamilton. Now 0-3 against NY this season (including 0-2 at home). Including last season, they are 1-10 against NY.
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If Darvin Ham can get fired after two seasons for his ridiculously poor record against Denver, then...
 
packwrap said:
The owner and founder of the wnba, the nba, set up the womens league in the summer so as to not compete with the nba. All the other womens leagues in others countries are, not surprisingly, during the regular basketball season.

If the USA had pro womens hoops during basketball season, this idea of going overseas to play in another league would not be an issue.
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I'm fully aware however it still doesn't mean that they should have to play overseas and the US if they don't want to. The trend of players going overseas is starting to shift, however. Haven't seen Wilson or Plum play overseas for a couple seasons. Ionescu didn't either I believe. She's talked about feeling healthier this season as she didn't have a nagging injury to manage. Some players opted to be coaches for NCAA programs like Atkins and Howard.

Maybe having the league play at the same time of the NBA could help, but coordinating schedules would be a mess. You're now competing with NBA and NHL, not to mention concerts during the winter for space in arenas.

With these additional leagues being stateside and provide some time before the start of the WNBA season. Hopefully, over time, players will have more options in how and where they want to play.
 
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visitingcock said:
Not a gamethreads but Sky and Aces are worth watching with 5 minutes left
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I quit watching in the first half. Aces are making everything so difficult for themselves. Is there a law that says they have to get behind by 15 points or so before they start actually trying? Or that they have to let one player torch them every game? They just haven't been much fun to watch lately, starting with that stinker against LA.
 
36 points scored by Ariel Atkins.
34 points scored by Chennedy Carter.

Both well above 50% shooting.

These things are related. There are too many liabilities in the starting line-up for Vegas to routinely overcome. Kiah provides nothing. We all know that Plum is a defensive liability (and her offense REEKED tonight--of course), but Jackie? WYA? Aren't you supposed to be the best two-way player in the WORLD (according to Becky Hammon)?

This team better find another starting post and a solution to its sieve perimeter defense or else it's curtains. The organization is going to have to have some tough conversations with CERTAIN people or else they're not going to get the job done this season.
 
4 of 17 from the field and 0 of 8 from 3--I can't! :oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops:

Imagine being a young promising guard in this league and being told that you have to "wait your turn" yet the vets get to post awful stat lines like this against sub-0.500 teams while getting lit up like a Christmas tree on defense. USA Basketball and its ridiculous politics, boy...
 
Don't have Prime so missed this LV-CHI battle. Definitely watching it today.

Chennedy Carter went off, oh my. Playing in Chicago has definitely revived her career after missing a season. Happy she's having success and hope this continues. Her mercurial attitude aside, she is an exciting player to watch.
 
cancontent said:
I'm fully aware however it still doesn't mean that they should have to play overseas and the US if they don't want to. The trend of players going overseas is starting to shift, however. Haven't seen Wilson or Plum play overseas for a couple seasons. Ionescu didn't either I believe. She's talked about feeling healthier this season as she didn't have a nagging injury to manage. Some players opted to be coaches for NCAA programs like Atkins and Howard.

Maybe having the league play at the same time of the NBA could help, but coordinating schedules would be a mess. You're now competing with NBA and NHL, not to mention concerts during the winter for space in arenas.

With these additional leagues being stateside and provide some time before the start of the WNBA season. Hopefully, over time, players will have more options in how and where they want to play.
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The first part, I think the players have the choice of playing year around or not. Second part. I agree, having the W play during the same time as the NBA would be a hot mess. Not just for the reasons you listed but also on a deeper level for the folks behind the curtains, concession workers, people who install the courts, ticket workers, cops/security details, and travel agents/team coordinators who handle those types of details. The last part, 10, 15, and even 25 years ago, WNBA players had to play year around for that extra money. It is great to see the progression over the decades of the WNBA. Folks forget that the NBA, prior to the Magic/Bird/Jordan era, NBA players were driving taxis, working at local bars or hotels, just to make some extra money. It is good to see the WNBA growing and with the game and great coaching at the youth level improving, the game is in great hands. Heck, I just spent a weekend in Louisville watching the future college and women players. The women's game is in great hands.
 
JellyBean said:
The first part, I think the players have the choice of playing year around or not. Second part. I agree, having the W play during the same time as the NBA would be a hot mess. Not just for the reasons you listed but also on a deeper level for the folks behind the curtains, concession workers, people who install the courts, ticket workers, cops/security details, and travel agents/team coordinators who handle those types of details. The last part, 10, 15, and even 25 years ago, WNBA players had to play year around for that extra money. It is great to see the progression over the decades of the WNBA. Folks forget that the NBA, prior to the Magic/Bird/Jordan era, NBA players were driving taxis, working at local bars or hotels, just to make some extra money. It is good to see the WNBA growing and with the game and great coaching at the youth level improving, the game is in great hands. Heck, I just spent a weekend in Louisville watching the future college and women players. The women's game is in great hands.
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Agreed on all points. There are a lot of layers to this.
 
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Fun fact: Chicago has now defeated both NY and Vegas on the road.
Another fun fact: they have a better record on the road (6-6) than at home (4-8).

And a bonus: As of this morning, Seattle is now the #3 seed (half game above Vegas). I feel like they are having the quietest excellent season of anyone. (Though they have losing records to their closest competitors (MN and Vegas) should tiebreakers come into play later).
 
bbsamjj said:
Fun fact: Chicago has now defeated both NY and Vegas on the road.
Another fun fact: they have a better record on the road (6-6) than at home (4-8).

And a bonus: As of this morning, Seattle is now the #3 seed (half game above Vegas). I feel like they are having the quietest excellent season of anyone. (Though they have losing records to their closest competitors (MN and Vegas) should tiebreakers come into play later).
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Will be interesting to see how Quinn is viewed at the end of the season. Will a deep run in the play-offs be required to remove some of the skepticism about her coaching abilities? Time will tell.
 
cancontent said:
Don't have Prime so missed this LV-CHI battle. Definitely watching it today.

Chennedy Carter went off, oh my. Playing in Chicago has definitely revived her career after missing a season. Happy she's having success and hope this continues. Her mercurial attitude aside, she is an exciting player to watch.
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I have a soft spot for mercurial players, glad she is having a good season.
 
cancontent said:
Will be interesting to see how Quinn is viewed at the end of the season. Will a deep run in the play-offs be required to remove some of the skepticism about her coaching abilities? Time will tell.
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While they are third, thats mostly due to teams that would be above them losing games with their most important players out with injury. Given the talent on the Storm's roster I think they should have less than 8 losses and don't think they are consistent enough to really contend for a title this season. So consider me a Quinn Skeptic still.
 
cancontent said:
Don't have Prime so missed this LV-CHI battle. Definitely watching it today.

Chennedy Carter went off, oh my. Playing in Chicago has definitely revived her career after missing a season. Happy she's having success and hope this continues. Her mercurial attitude aside, she is an exciting player to watch.
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Playing for a coach like Teresa Witherspoon appears to have helped immensely thus far; and, she seems to get along well with her teammates, from vets like Marina Mabrey and Lindsay Allen (a very cool, calm collected sort who helps Mabrey) and the rookies, Angel Reese and Kamilla Cardoso. Let's hop and see if it continues. (Back to beach :cool:;))
 
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Dillon77 said:
Playing for a coach like Teresa Witherspoon appears to have helped immensely thus far; and, she seems to get along well with her teammates, from vets like Marina Mabrey and Lindsay Allen (a very cool, calm collected sort who helps Mabrey) and the rookies, Angel Reese and Kamilla Cardoso. Let's hop and see if it continues. (Back to beach :cool:;))
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Sure....rub it in ;)

Kidding. I'm fortunate to have several beaches in walking and driving distance. Enjoy!
 
I dont follow all of the WNBA salary deals, but Richie Cohen, from London England, does. A good follow if you are on twitter/X

 
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IDK about this. Banham really brought a lot off the bench. And a great teammate I know the Sun is concerned about the perimeter game but not sure if Mabrey will fit. We'll see. Poor Moriah probably won't get anymore time there than she did here.
 
Mabrey will definitely make the Sun better this year. When Chicago acquired the 2024 7th pick (Angel Reese) they gave up a 2026 1st rd pick swap to the Lynx. But now Chicago picked up a swap as well. Is this the first 3-way swap?
 
12au said:
Mabrey will definitely make the Sun better this year. When Chicago acquired the 2024 7th pick (Angel Reese) they gave up a 2026 1st rd pick swap to the Lynx. But now Chicago picked up a swap as well. Is this the first 3-way swap?
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Care to expand on that? I don't see how the addition of Mabrey makes the Sun any better than they already are. Will she start or come off the bench? I mean this could be the move that pushes the Sun over the top to the title or it could be the move that falls flat. I just do not see how adding Mabrey, a solid player, will help the Sun.
 
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