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huskyrob1 said:
Ollie is as much responsible for the 2014 win as Rollie Massimino was when Villanova won it all by upsetting Georgetown. Both coaches did didly squat afterward in wins and in recruiting.
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This is sort of a moronic statement. Rollie coached Division 1 for 16 years after his title. Ollie has coached for 3. Use a better example.
 
80shusky said:
This is sort of a moronic statement. Rollie coached Division 1 for 16 years after his title. Ollie has coached for 3. Use a better example.
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The parallels are there, you're just too stupid too see them. Rollie never had any success in coaching after the 85 NC. UNLV was a disaster, as was Cleveland State. Ollie's quickly on his way to matching those 16 years.
 
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If JC came back it would be fascinating and Dave Benedict would bring in the perfect coach in waiting. I want KO to succeed but AD DB would figure that one out. He's brilliant at solving problems and painting pictures.
 
Hoophound said:
If JC came back it would be fascinating and Dave Benedict would bring in the perfect coach in waiting. I want KO to succeed but AD DB would figure that one out. He's brilliant at solving problems and painting pictures.
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The "perfect coach in waiting" you speak of would most likely rather take a job at a middle of the pack P5 school.
 
Stairmaster said:
The "perfect coach in waiting" you speak of would most likely rather take a job at a middle of the pack P5 school.
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The perfect coach in waiting is no longer available, Rutgers hired him first.
 
huskyrob1 said:
The parallels are there, you're just too stupid too see them. Rollie never had any success in coaching after the 85 NC. UNLV was a disaster, as was Cleveland State. Ollie's quickly on his way to matching those 16 years.
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Quickly except for the 13 more years it would take him to do so. You mentioned Rollie's inept recruiting in your original statement. Can you please identify and compare Rollie's recruiting failures to our current coaching staff's and explain how they are parallel? Thank you in advance for whatever wisdom is forthcoming.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Ollie is as much responsible for the 2014 win as Rollie Massimino was when Villanova won it all by upsetting Georgetown. Both coaches did didly squat afterward in wins and in recruiting.
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You can't have it both ways.

You can't bag on him for NOT having good players and at the same time saying the players deserve all the credit.
 
Kemba2Rememba said:
Always appreciated Hobbs and would be really dissapointed to find out he was smacktalking KO/the program

Honestly can't wait for the season. Want to pick up some big wins and put these clowns in their spot
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Hobbs may be talking to Calhoun who appears to be unhappy with KO right now.
 
Stairmaster said:
Calhoun days are most likely never coming back. You and a bunch of other people are going to be very unhappy for the rest of your lives if that's what you're waiting for.
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Paesano said:
Hobbs may be talking to Calhoun who appears to be unhappy with KO right now.
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That was an old story.

We read several weeks ago that Ollie and Calhoun were working together in Storrs. The latter story was in the media. The first story was a rumor.
 
80shusky said:
This is sort of a moronic statement. Rollie coached Division 1 for 16 years after his title. Ollie has coached for 3. Use a better example.
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I was a freshman at Nova in 1989 when Rollie was coming off of a recent final 8 run after the 85 season. He also got a top 3 recruiting class with 2 mcD guys that class (if my crappy memory serves. Bain and Byrd). That class was ended up a huge disappointment but Rollie in 1989 could still pull it in. Ollie cant ne expected to do that at present day Uconn.

That said -the comparisson isnt totally awful. Rollie never did take advantage of a miracle run. Ollie hasnt either. BUT- Ollie is in a tougher position. He is a comparatively unproven coach in a second tier conference. Rollie had a lot of success before 85 and still got a LOT of scrutiny and was essentially run out. Rollie's swagger at he time didnt help matters.

How is Ollie sopposed to win recruiting battles for top talent? The program sits in purgatory waiting for someone to find a home for a football program. He hasnt done well and it is fair to fire him if I didnt see improvement (He does seem to react to tough game situations with looks of disgust rather than a productive timeout). But, man, he is in a tough spot.

Getting all your French guys healthy will certainly help.
 
It's hard to read a lot of these comments about Uconn Coach Kevin Ollie.

Kevin Ollie accepted a coaching position that at the time was one of the toughest predicaments in college sports. Taking over a program in which never won anything until his mentor coach arrived to Storrs, Connecticut, Jim Calhoun. Jim wins 3 national championships at a place that no one ever thought it was possible.

Okay, so to say that the program is a Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, UCLA, or Duke is silly, those programs no matter who the coach is, is bringing 5 star recruits year in & year out, just because the name on the jersey and the location and history of the program.

Let's add on that Kevin Ollie's first year at the program was facing postseason ban and probation as well almost a handful of top players transferring.

Oh wait, let's not forget that the program is no longer in the Big East, but in the American.

So what does Kevin Ollie do, he goes on to have a 20 win first year, followed up with a National Championship.

Has the last few years been rocky yes, most definitely, but I in no way believe Kevin Ollie is solely to blame (3-4 injuries, really crushed recruiting/transfers last 6 months).

At the end of the day I believe in Kevin Ollie, I believe he can coach, recruit, & more importantly is a great person to lead this program into the next phase & decade.

Just to be honest with all of you, when Jim Calhoun announced his retirement I didn't believe that Uconn Men's Basketball would win another championship anytime soon, for all the reasons stated above.
 
UConnNick said:
Unfortunately, negative recruiting is how the game is played. It's not unlike most any political campaign. When's the last time two candidates didn't go negative against each other? It's rare when they don't.

When Hobbs or any other coach leaves one program and ends up having to recruit player(s) looking at both their old and new programs, to me it's all fair game to go negative, especially when you have insider info. That makes it even more persuasive. I don't judge Pikiell, Hobbs or any other former Husky assistant for doing it. That's the reality of recruiting. You would certainly hope that Killings and Chillious will use any and every means available to help us get a recruit anytime, particularly if we're up against a former employer of theirs that they know inside stuff about.
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Disagree. It may be common but it is not alright.
 
TyroneShoo said:
I was a freshman at Nova in 1989 when Rollie was coming off of a recent final 8 run after the 85 season. He also got a top 3 recruiting class with 2 mcD guys that class (if my crappy memory serves. Bain and Byrd). That class was ended up a huge disappointment but Rollie in 1989 could still pull it in. Ollie cant ne expected to do that at present day Uconn.

That said -the comparisson isnt totally awful. Rollie never did take advantage of a miracle run. Ollie hasnt either. BUT- Ollie is in a tougher position. He is a comparatively unproven coach in a second tier conference. Rollie had a lot of success before 85 and still got a LOT of scrutiny and was essentially run out. Rollie's swagger at he time didnt help matters.

How is Ollie sopposed to win recruiting battles for top talent? The program sits in purgatory waiting for someone to find a home for a football program. He hasnt done well and it is fair to fire him if I didnt see improvement (He does seem to react to tough game situations with looks of disgust rather than a productive timeout). But, man, he is in a tough spot.

Getting all your French guys healthy will certainly help.
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All of this is fair - he's been put in a tough spot from the very beginning, which should be factored into any analysis of his performance.

But that doesn't explain this staff's tendency to shoot itself in the foot over and over.
 
David 76 said:
Disagree. It may be common but it is not alright.
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If you're looking at it morally and ethically I agree with you, but the reality is that insane amounts of money have corrupted collegiate athletics. Anytime your entire livelihood depends upon getting kids to come play for your program, coaches are going to do what they think they have to do to get and keep their jobs. I'm not going to condemn any of them for playing that game the way they have to. It's the entire system that's corrupt and broken.

And we have no idea what, if anything negative was used or not used by the Rutger's staff regarding Mathis recruitment, so it's nothing more than idle speculation. Apparently his mother was in favor of Rutgers and that could very well be all there was to it.
 
upstater said:
You can't have it both ways.

You can't bag on him for NOT having good players and at the same time saying the players deserve all the credit.
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Show me where I said the team that won the 2014 NC were not good players. I know some other posters said that but I was not one of them. The players did deserve all the credit, KO was just along for the ride.
 
huskyrob1 said:
He should tell the foursome behind him to play through so he can make some calls.
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You must be in the know or a really Seinfeld kind of guy? Annoying as hell but entertaining.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Show me where I said the team that won the 2014 NC were not good players. I know some other posters said that but I was not one of them. The players did deserve all the credit, KO was just along for the ride.
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You know nothing about basketball if you think that's even possible.
 
huskyrob1 said:
I don't stand up as a KO apologist like you do, no matter what happens.
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You don't add anything but attempts at jokes in behalf of KO. But they are unimpressive attempts so you know. You're in a good crowd of fans though who all feel the same so be proud.
 
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