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Massey Ratings - 1/26/18

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Did anyone notice, Massey Ratings has moved Baylor ahead of Mississippi St into the #2 position in their computer rankings. Won't be surprised if the NCAA Tournament Committee still holds their schedule against them, but with other teams dropping games (i.e. Tenn, Texas)... hard to imagine they won't move up in the next reveal.
 
If UConn were to lose to South Carolina (Gof forbid) do you think they would be moved to the number two or three spot?
 
Charliebball said:
If UConn were to lose to South Carolina (Gof forbid) do you think they would be moved to the number two or three spot?
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it better take a lot more then my question for UConn to lose this game.................mojo or no mojo...........
 
From what I saw of Baylor in the Baylor vs Texas game , Baylor should be ranked ahead of Miss. St.....Baylor is an awesome team with tremendous size. I am not sure if anybody is eager to play them right now.
 
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PAHuskeyFan said:
Did anyone notice, Massey Ratings has moved Baylor ahead of Mississippi St into the #2 position in their computer rankings. Won't be surprised if the NCAA Tournament Committee still holds their schedule against them, but with other teams dropping games (i.e. Tenn, Texas)... hard to imagine they won't move up in the next reveal.
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Yes, but the ratings difference is razor thin - 0.02, and I think it has flip-flopped before due to changes to their opponents or maybe even opponents opponents ratings. I've been treating them as virtually tied for some time (It might be nice if someone did a graph, which would show the differences more clearly.)
 
HGN said:
From what I saw of Baylor in the Baylor vs Texas game , Baylor should be ranked ahead of Miss. St.....Baylor is an awesome team with tremendous size. I am not sure if anybody is eager to play them right now.
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Was also impressed. Now I need to see them replicate that on Texas's home court or any neutral court.
 
Which team would be the more difficult matchup for UConn, Baylor or Mississippi State?
 
Golden Husky said:
Which team would be the more difficult matchup for UConn, Baylor or Mississippi State?
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Neither . UConns guards will shut down both Baylor and Miss St guards and that will be the difference. One other point Stevens is to quick for either club to defend one on one. She will get opponents in foul trouble. This UConn team is way to quick at the guard positions and that is the difference.
 
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Golden Husky said:
Which team would be the more difficult matchup for UConn, Baylor or Mississippi State?
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Both would be a tremendous challenge for Uconn with their size, which Uconn lacks this year outside of Azura. But if I had to pick , I would say Baylor presents the bigger challenge , literally , with Brown(6'7) and Cox(6'4). Both have size and strength. And Brown is just a HUGE monster in there.

I'm just glad Uconn doesn't have to tangle with either of them before NCAA Tournament.
 
HGN said:
Both would be a tremendous challenge for Uconn with their size, which Uconn lacks this year outside of Azura. But if I had to pick , I would say Baylor presents the bigger challenge , literally , with Brown(6'7) and Cox(6'4). Both have size and strength. And Brown is just a HUGE monster in there.

I'm just glad Uconn doesn't have to tangle with either of them before NCAA Tournament.
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Turn the game into a track meet and you eliminate Cox from consideration. On a neutral court UCONN would beat both Baylor and Miss St handily!
 
connboy77 said:
Turn the game into a track meet and you eliminate Cox from consideration. On a neutral court UCONN would beat both Baylor and Miss St handily!
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Didn’t beat MSU handily on a neutral court last year.
 
PAHuskeyFan said:
Did anyone notice, Massey Ratings has moved Baylor ahead of Mississippi St into the #2 position in their computer rankings. Won't be surprised if the NCAA Tournament Committee still holds their schedule against them, but with other teams dropping games (i.e. Tenn, Texas)... hard to imagine they won't move up in the next reveal.
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By the end of February, the committee won't hold Baylor's schedule against them because by then, due to Baylor's backloaded schedule, their SOS will be nothing to sneeze at. They will have played Texas, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, and Oklahoma at least twice each. If Baylor runs the table they will be a #1 seed, I guarantee it.
 
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Do scores mater in Massey ratings ? . . . does a two-point win count the same as a twenty point win ?
 
RPI (realtimerpi and the NCAA) has Notre Dame second, MSST third, and Baylor tenth. I don't put much stock in computer rankings.
 
The RPI is not a true computer ranking. It does not look at the score or even the results of individual games. It is just a mathematical formula based on the team's record and their opponent's records. The best example of this is how UCONN was not ranked number 1 by RPI several times in recent years despite being undefeated and beating most of the next best teams handily. Massey and Sagarin use the actual scores and results and are typically very good ranking systems.
 
Plebe said:
By the end of February, the committee won't hold Baylor's schedule against them because by then, due to Baylor's backloaded schedule, their SOS will be nothing to sneeze at. They will have played Texas, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, and Oklahoma at least twice each. If Baylor runs the table they will be a #1 seed, I guarantee it.
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Maryland thought that way last year. Just sayin';)
 
PAHuskeyFan said:
Maryland thought that way last year. Just sayin';)
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Maryland only played one game against a ranked team after the first reveal, and they lost. Baylor already has a decisive win over a top 10 team. The situations are not comparable
 
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PAHuskeyFan said:
Maryland thought that way last year. Just sayin';)
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Did they?

Maryland was in a completely different situation playing in the Big Ten. The only RPI top 25 opponent on their conference schedule was Ohio State (whom they lost to) and there was nowhere else for Maryland to pick up quality wins.
 
connboy77 said:
Last year UCONN did not have a 6'6 Big to go against MSU'S Big!
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Azure is good at what she does. But she isn’t a tower of strength or elevation. Defending a good big isn’t her strength. Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad we have her and on the other end of the floor she has the quickness edge. She does tend to have some shots blocked in close which at 6’6” surprises me.
 
cohenzone said:
Azure is good at what she does. But she isn’t a tower of strength or elevation. Defending a good big isn’t her strength. Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad we have her and on the other end of the floor she has the quickness edge. She does tend to have some shots blocked in close which at 6’6” surprises me.
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Azura is also somewhat foul-prone, and (sans Natalie) she has no real backup on the roster. Certainly good teams like Baylor and Mississippi State will try to exploit that, and they may be successful.

@Tonyc, Texas also had quick guards, and that didn't do them much good against Baylor. But UConn's quick guards are more reliable 3-point shooters than Texas's.
 
Bear11 said:
Maryland only played one game against a ranked team after the first reveal, and they lost. Baylor already has a decisive win over a top 10 team. The situations are not comparable
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Ok, ok. ... I only know that many on this board commented many times how upset MD was with their seeding based on their record and their Conf. Championship.
 
connboy77 said:
Turn the game into a track meet and you eliminate Cox from consideration. On a neutral court UCONN would beat both Baylor and Miss St handily!
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I like your thinking. Now if we can get both of those two teams to comply with our wish.
 
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