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billybud said:
FSU, in the "bad decade" still ends up being the 8th best team of the BCS Era...98-2013
Final AP Rankings: 3-1-5-15-21-11-15-23-U-U-21-U-17-23-10-1...two national championships, 13 years end year ranked.

32 straight bowl appearances...current streak leader by a mile

6 straight consecutive bowl wins....national leader

Bowden came into Tallahassee and turned around a team that had just gone 0-11...within three years, Bowden had an undefeated Nole team playing in the Orange Bowl...masterful.

Jimbo came in after the Noles went 7-6 and within three years had them 12 game winners and Orange Bowl Champs...in his 4th year, he won the NC....also masterful
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Huh?

Did I say something that was inaccurate? If you check what I wrote I believe you'll find it to be accurate.
 
Your statement of "racking up losses" needed to be put in perspective....Bobby finished three years of his last ten not in the final AP rankings....and never had a losing season, unlike Texas, Ohio State, Michigan, Florid, etc.

While he was not as successful as in the past Bobby Bowden years, the statement "racking up losses" made him sound like Rodriguez, or Mac Brown. With his worst team in 30 some years, Bobby still beat a nine win WVU in the bowl...
 
Ah. . . I must have been cherry picking data to create a less than flattering perception of reality.
 
No...And I was just providing a larger perspective....I offered the record....
 
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First, this from the comments:
More ESPN programming! "Requiem For The ACC" As a tearful Mike Kreyihasdhdski is interviewed from his nursing home still sporting a head of black hair. He intones in his nasal drawl: "Basketball in Greensboro was just the best. I mean for an entire weekend that place was the most important city in North Carolina....it was magical......and then Wojo would tell me........oh Wojo.......".(Coach K promptly falls apart but the cameras refuse to cut away. It's awkward).
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lol at the bolded text.

Second, here's something I've wondered about. Since the GOR only covers home games (I'm not sure about neutral site, so let's set that aside for a moment) but each school continues to control it's scheduling, couldn't a school just agree to away games with their new conference mates with some kind of gate sharing agreement?
 
Not play at home?...when 70-80% of athletic revenue is not from media contracts but from season tickets, concessions, boosters.

And if you do play at home, another conference owns the rights...

In some instances student fees pay for tickets...you would lose the student presence as well as money.

Nope. Never happen. Not when teams are doing everything that they can to get seven home games instead of six.
 
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This is quite literally the worst thread on the Boneyard that won't die.

None of you are lawyers and in the instance a few of you are, you don't know about what was happening behind the scenes.

The fact that two ACC fans need to come to a UConn message board to belabor the " legal" status and injustice of Maryland and ACC by laws is pathetic.

Please for the love of god just shut up and leave.
 
billybud said:
Not play at home?...when 70-80% of athletic revenue is not from media contracts but from season tickets, concessions, boosters.

And if you do play at home, another conference owns the rights...

In some instances student fees pay for tickets...you would lose the student presence as well as money.

Nope. Never happen. Not when teams are doing everything that they can to get seven home games instead of six.
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Agreed. It becomes another variable in negotiation for a team that wants to leave.
 
billybud said:
Love this place...it's like the bar scene in Return of the Jedi.
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Is it the bar or the place cabdriver's are above their station for intellectual stimulation? Whatever suits you're purpose I guess ! But not to worry I love ya anyway ha ha. Damn up here in the NE FB season is too far away for me. Its not like the south where spring FB draws huge crowd's and coverage.
 
Hey Nicky....all's good.

How difficult is it getting from the 200 block of W 49th st. to the Garden?
 
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billybud said:
Hey Nicky....all's good.

How difficult is it getting from the 200 block of W 49th st. to the Garden?
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2 stops on the express subway. No problem at all. And if it is not bad weather, good 30 minute walk thru Times Square and past Port Authority.
 
billybud said:
Hey Nicky....all's good.

How difficult is it getting from the 200 block of W 49th st. to the Garden?
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Billy, it's very easy. Depending on whether you are closer to Broadway or 8th Ave you can either take the 1 train (downtown) from 50th & Broadway - go 2 stops to 34th St/Penn Station (that is the Garden). Or, the A/C/E train from 5oth & 8th Ave downtown 2 stops (also to 34th St/Penn Station). If it's a nice night, you should walk the 3/4 of a mile down 7th ave or 8th ave to MSG (20 city blocks equals approximately 1 mile, and the Garden is between 34th St and 31st St, as well as b/w 7th and 8th Ave). Safe travels, hope you have a great time in NYC!
 
billybud said:
Nicky...I was a Marine o311 rifleman and then a Force Recon marine.

I was enlisted. Scuba and jump qualified, UDT trained at Coronado, jump trained at Ft. Benning by the army and small team airborne insert trained at Onslow Beach. And I ate Remington Raider office guys for breakfast.

I am no gentleman.

Nothing against New York taxi drivers, personally...I like Pakistani's as a rule.
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Jacksonville, NC...my hometown. So you know Camp LeJeune very well. :)

When were you here?
 
1965...1966 at Lejeune (back and forth from training at the Naval Underwater Swim School, Jump School at Benning, Underwater Beach Recon at Coronado, SERE school at Pickle Meadows.

Jacksonville, back then, locked up all of the local girls Friday afternoon until the am hours of Monday morning. We took liberty and headed to Myrtle Beach.
 
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billybud said:
1965...1966 at Lejeune (back and forth from training at the Naval Underwater Swim School, Jump School at Benning, Underwater Beach Recon at Coronado, SERE school at Pickle Meadows.

Jacksonville, back then, locked up all of the local girls Friday afternoon until the am hours of Monday morning. We took liberty and headed to Myrtle Beach.
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I was three in '66...lol.

You would not recognise the place now. Heck, you would not have recognised it when I was in HS in the late 70s and early 80s. Now, its a city of about 70,000, and, growing like crazy.

They don't lock up the local girls anymore. Some of 'em even turned professional...haha.
 
The conspiracy theorist in me says they have something to hide.
Deadbeat is a little strong as the fee is excessive in total. I think/guess that they might have paid the fee had it been reasonable ($20M maybe), but of course that is me guessing with no facts or knowledge to back it up. I do agree they're alienating schools, but obviously they feel they're doing what they need to do to protect their financials. I think someone else referred to it as a game of chicken and obviously MD is trying to force the ACC to blink first. As someone with a mostly outside view of things, I pray this gets to trial because it will make for great TV.
 
btstimpy said:
I get it quite well. The author if that linked article is as wacko as buckaineer. And buckaineer really does have serious deficiency in his cognitive reasoning skills. That's why they might be the same person. For some entertainment, why don't you read this same author's fantasies from 2012? Here you go: http://msn.foxsports.com/college-fo...age/the-acc-and-big-east-deathmatch-nears.php Fan Fiction is fun stuff sometimes.
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Clay Travis is an SEC fan, a Tennessee Vol, I think. His views always are based on what he thinks is good for the SEC. A few years back, he said that the SEC needs to blow up the ACC to take Virginia and North Carolina.

As he hates ND, I am happy to see him revealed to be an utter fool.
 
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Fairfield_1st said:
The conspiracy theorist in me says they have something to hide.
Deadbeat is a little strong as the fee is excessive in total. I think/guess that they might have paid the fee had it been reasonable ($20M maybe), but of course that is me guessing with no facts or knowledge to back it up. I do agree they're alienating schools, but obviously they feel they're doing what they need to do to protect their financials. I think someone else referred to it as a game of chicken and obviously MD is trying to force the ACC to blink first. As someone with a mostly outside view of things, I pray this gets to trial because it will make for great TV.
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Notre Dame never reveals their funding sources or their contract amounts. Their NBC contract is not public. Their Under Armour contract is not public. For Maryland to subpoena this stuff is insulting and harassment. It quite frankly isn't any of Maryland's business. And Deadbeat isn't too strong. Maryland knew with precision the amount of the exit fee from the ACC well before deciding to join the Big Ten.
 
btstimpy said:
Notre Dame never reveals their funding sources or their contract amounts. Their NBC contract is not public. Their Under Armour contract is not public. For Maryland to subpoena this stuff is insulting and harassment. It quite frankly isn't any of Maryland's business. And Deadbeat isn't too strong. Maryland knew with precision the amount of the exit fee from the ACC well before deciding to join the Big Ten.
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They have to be doing something wrong if they are afraid to answer a few questions.
 
btstimpy said:
Notre Dame never reveals their funding sources or their contract amounts. Their NBC contract is not public. Their Under Armour contract is not public. For Maryland to subpoena this stuff is insulting and harassment. It quite frankly isn't any of Maryland's business. And Deadbeat isn't too strong. Maryland knew with precision the amount of the exit fee from the ACC well before deciding to join the Big Ten.
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Why is it I have a hard time believing Maryland has to go to court to find out the intricacies of the ND/Under Armour contract? lol.
 
buddy said:
They have to be doing something wrong if they are afraid to answer a few questions.
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I have been a litigation attorney (commercial litigation, insurance defense, expropriations, etc..) for 27 years. Nobody gives up more in discovery than they have to, especially a non-party to the litigation that happens to be a private institution (like ND).

ND's attorneys filed the motion to quash the subpoena last month in the St. Joseph Circuit Court.


That is St. Joseph County, Indiana., the county were ND is located.

A state court in North Carolina has no subpoena power beyond the North Carolina borders.

To subpoena documents from a non-party to a lawsuit in another state, you have to issue letters rogatory to the other state court (in this case in St. Joseph County, Indiana) and have the court in that other state enforce (or not) the subpoena.

ND has a pretty good argument that the subpoena is a fishing expedition regarding a school that is not a party to the lawsuit, was not a member of the conference until eight months after the lawsuit was filed, asks for documents readily available from public or other sources and asks for documents that seem to be unrelated or not relevant to the ACC/Maryland lawsuit.

The broader the subpoena to a non-party, the especially a private entity, the more likely a court will consider it a fishing expedition and deny enforcement of the subpoena. We shall see.
 
btstimpy said:
Notre Dame never reveals their funding sources or their contract amounts. Their NBC contract is not public. Their Under Armour contract is not public. For Maryland to subpoena this stuff is insulting and harassment. It quite frankly isn't any of Maryland's business. And Deadbeat isn't too strong. Maryland knew with precision the amount of the exit fee from the ACC well before deciding to join the Big Ten.
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Maryland also knew with precision that the new exit fee was enacted in violation of the bylaws and punitive, and believes they are the one being harassed by the ACC. That's why this is in court. Any college president with half a backbone, an IQ over 75, is not a pathetic Swofford bootlicker, and wants to keep his/her job would have obviously fought this.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Why is it I have a hard time believing Maryland has to go to court to find out the intricacies of the ND/Under Armour contract? lol.
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You have to ask Maryland. It's their fishing expedition.
 
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