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Duffy for sure. She has a track record of successNice analysis. So here’s a loaded question for you. Better HC: Niele Ivey or Megan Duffy? 🧐
Duffy for sure. She has a track record of successNice analysis. So here’s a loaded question for you. Better HC: Niele Ivey or Megan Duffy? 🧐
I don't believe better was an understatement. AG played her tough and most of Dungee's points came against other players who where guarding her AND she made it look easy. AG had no help, even when Ark cleared out the side and Dungee had all day to give AG three moves going to the basket. They might as well had been playing one on one in the back yard. This play probably made all the ESPN highlights in the US which is why people assume it was AG who got torched all game....not so!!!Better is quite an understatement..Before that game I had watched Dungee play about 6 or 7 games and about the same amount last year and the girl is a terrific basketball player AG is not
As far as Geno goes there are a lot of things thru the years I have questioned or disagreed on but not playing time..He and his staff see these kids practice every day.Like Bill Belichick benching Malcom Butler I thought cost the Pats another Super Bowl..but it's his team and he can do what ever he wants just like Geno can..How about when he benched Stewie her freshman year..I and many others didn't agree with it but he knew what he was doing..can AG play an important role on the team..absolutely..but it's Geno's job to know when to play her
He is not infallible. He has been out-coached before. Also, and this is going to cause an uproar, but I've noticed through the last few years, when the team has a timeout and GA draws up a play, it doesn't work very often. Also, he has lost the second half more than he should in my opinion, when coaches make adjustments at halftime.My problem is with the motion offense as well. Of course I preface any comments with the fact that Geno has 1100 more wins than me. Got that out of the way! Sometimes Geno doesn't make adjustments. Is it because he wants the team to fight through the problems? Arkansas, he knows 500 ways to stop Dungee, but he chose not to do anything about her. Is this "tough love" or is he a step slow now.
IMO he can run his motion from a million different sets. Even my dull coaching brain had 4-5 sets. For example, you can start out 4 high, 2 wings and 2 high posts at the elbows. Then you start your action. 4 low, wings are in the corners and posts are on the blocks. Then you start your action. I still love the 4 starting on the blocks with screens to free up the wings. That 5th grade action would have freed up our wings for shots, drives, post passes. And screeners always show to the ball. Then the flashes high come with pick and roll action etc.
Marquette IMO is a really good YMCA team. We're UConn. They just happen to be the best team in the BE after us. There are physically talented teams in the NCAA. What happens now, going forward, if teams overplay our guards, go under screens, forcing players to shoot and they leave our post alone at the high post and 1 on 1 inside. Liv played good but .... she may not be one of our best players and teams are going to make her beat them. Come on Geno, break out your bag of tricks. If I never see another hand-off..... Thanks BY. I feel better now!
One thing I noticed, passes that normally work against weaker teams, resulted in turnovers tonight. You have to worry that by playing weaker teams, UConn gets a false sense of what will work and what doesn't against the better teams.



I'm with you! What about the "tough love" idea? That Arkansas loss was truly a "good loss". Remember with Gabby, Lou, and Phees he "wanted" to lose. Turned out he was right.He is not infallible. He has been out-coached before. Also, and this is going to cause an uproar, but I've noticed through the last few years, when the team has a timeout and GA draws up a play, it doesn't work very often. Also, he has lost the second half more than he should in my opinion, when coaches make adjustments at halftime.
I think a lot of coaches have caught up to him which is natural. We don't have that huge coaching advantage that we used to have. I think we still have an advantage, but the gap has narrowed.
GA set the standard a long time ago with his ingenuity in the women's game that wasn't really there before so he had a tactical advantage over other coaches. Even with some of the great past coaches (I'll eave out the names), it was more: play hard, hustle and rebound, whereas GA was/is a genius at Xs and Os and matchups as well.
There is a good summary below from LA...but I will add this. Paige was way off her game. What that translates into is; she still excelled on defense and in her passing/assists game. She looked " worn out," and I almost thought she might be ill. He shooting was way off and her energy level, while 99 miles an hour, was not her usual 110mph. Our game was defense and the two "bigs." I think what others see when they scout us is:Guys, A windstorm took out my power right after the 1st quarter. I ended up following the gamecast on my phone. Not a very pretty game from what I could tell. So the BY is going to have to fill me in on the details.
I'm not understanding the shade a hustling bench player is getting from this poster and others.I actually have 2 or 3 games and Geno must see what I see or she would be playing more
Amen... I'm still hoping he figures this coaching stuff out.I figure that’s why Geno gets the big bucks.
There is a good summary below from LA...but I will add this. Paige was way off her game. What that translates into is; she still excelled on defense and in her passing/assists game. She looked " worn out," and I almost thought she might be ill. He shooting was way off and her energy level, while 99 miles an hour, was not her usual 110mph. Our game was defense and the two "bigs." I think what others see when they scout us is:
1. Clog up the middle ( as much as possible ) and force UCONN to win from the arc.
2. Give Olivia and Edwards the 15 footers until they prove they are efficient shooting them.
3. Double up on Paige knowing; Muhl will avoid shooting wherever possible, Williams is inconsistent and gets demoralized if she launches a three and misses, and Evina is not confident with her three either.
4. When Aubrey is in the game, give her open threes from anywhere on the court.
5. The "slacking off" areas on defense allows increased pressure on Paige and inside.
To win, UCONN needs defense to create offense, thus avoiding too much time in a half court offense, which is pretty lame. Paige has to be all world. And I do think the combination of Olivia and Edwards can devastate.
Williams needs to play her usual high energy great defense; lead on breaks, and drive to the hoop if there is any opening ( mostly, there will not be ).
It will be fun to watch. But we do need a reliable threat from the outside whose name isn't Paige.
Good stuff!There is a good summary below from LA...but I will add this. Paige was way off her game. What that translates into is; she still excelled on defense and in her passing/assists game. She looked " worn out," and I almost thought she might be ill. He shooting was way off and her energy level, while 99 miles an hour, was not her usual 110mph. Our game was defense and the two "bigs." I think what others see when they scout us is:
1. Clog up the middle ( as much as possible ) and force UCONN to win from the arc.
2. Give Olivia and Edwards the 15 footers until they prove they are efficient shooting them.
3. Double up on Paige knowing; Muhl will avoid shooting wherever possible, Williams is inconsistent and gets demoralized if she launches a three and misses, and Evina is not confident with her three either.
4. When Aubrey is in the game, give her open threes from anywhere on the court.
5. The "slacking off" areas on defense allows increased pressure on Paige and inside.
To win, UCONN needs defense to create offense, thus avoiding too much time in a half court offense, which is pretty lame. Paige has to be all world. And I do think the combination of Olivia and Edwards can devastate.
Williams needs to play her usual high energy great defense; lead on breaks, and drive to the hoop if there is any opening ( mostly, there will not be ).
It will be fun to watch. But we do need a reliable threat from the outside whose name isn't Paige.
I don't believe better was an understatement. AG played her tough and most of Dungee's points came against other players who where guarding her AND she made it look easy. AG had no help, even when Ark cleared out the side and Dungee had all day to give AG three moves going to the basket. They might as well had been playing one on one in the back yard. This play probably made all the ESPN highlights in the US which is why people assume it was AG who got torched all game....not so!!!
I'm not interested in the analogies with other sports.
The benching of Stewie....I can't remember what I thought but it is very possible that many or even most coaches would not have benched Stewie and still would have won the championship that year. Different ways to motivate playes...GA has his way and it works and others do as well.
I am aware of GA's role and the fact he actually coaches and watches them in practice. So does GA have his reasons...well I think it is abundantly obvious he does. But, it doesn't mean I agree with them.
Actually who the hell cares about practice if you ball out in the game?? Since you love to tell me about GA, then you would know that he called Shea the worst practice player he ever had.....but yet he still played her meaningful minutes.......
And he also called Lobo the worse center in the nation..that's called motivation..just like after losing to LSU in the elite 8 and Fowel's he told Tina they needed a center on the team..Shea was an AA he knew what he would get from herI don't believe better was an understatement. AG played her tough and most of Dungee's points came against other players who where guarding her AND she made it look easy. AG had no help, even when Ark cleared out the side and Dungee had all day to give AG three moves going to the basket. They might as well had been playing one on one in the back yard. This play probably made all the ESPN highlights in the US which is why people assume it was AG who got torched all game....not so!!!
I'm not interested in the analogies with other sports.
The benching of Stewie....I can't remember what I thought but it is very possible that many or even most coaches would not have benched Stewie and still would have won the championship that year. Different ways to motivate playes...GA has his way and it works and others do as well.
I am aware of GA's role and the fact he actually coaches and watches them in practice. So does GA have his reasons...well I think it is abundantly obvious he does. But, it doesn't mean I agree with them.
Actually who the hell cares about practice if you ball out in the game?? Since you love to tell me about GA, then you would know that he called Shea the worst practice player he ever had.....but yet he still played her meaningful minutes.......
Well it certainly formed Tina into POY but then again it all boils down to ea individualMy point was not motivation but that he said Shea was a very poor practice player but yet he still played her meaningful minutes. He has said this about other players as well but their names escape at the moment. You mentioned that he isn't playing AG because of what GA sees in practice but yet he played Shea and others.
As far as motivation: a lot of people would disagree that negative forms of motivation are good or long lasting. But that is for another discussion.
My point was not motivation but that he said Shea was a very poor practice player but yet he still played her meaningful minutes. He has said this about other players as well but their names escape at the moment. You mentioned that he isn't playing AG because of what GA sees in practice but yet he played Shea and others.
As far as motivation: a lot of people would disagree that negative forms of motivation are good or long lasting. But that is for another discussion.
It did but other motivational techniques could and probably would have done the same. I'm not against that type of coaching, just pointing out that there are are other ways to do things that other coaches have done and got the same results. The one thing that nobody does better than GA is consistently recruit great players.Well it certainly formed Tina into POY but then again it all boils down to ea individual
Yes, I think we've gotten in this "Mindspeak" that a basketball player, even a UConn player, is one or two flavors. People are definitely more like Baskin and Robbins, 31 flavors. We blend together to form a successful organization and with greater diversity, one gets even more success. NEVER do I see AG in the game and think about whether she knows the offense or cannot at this point shoot 3's. I think about what she gives us defensively, rebounding, and how she's going to get to the tin.My point was not motivation but that he said Shea was a very poor practice player but yet he still played her meaningful minutes. He has said this about other players as well but their names escape at the moment. You mentioned that he isn't playing AG because of what GA sees in practice but yet he played Shea and others.
As far as motivation: a lot of people would disagree that negative forms of motivation are good or long lasting. But that is for another discussion.
hmmmm. It was not said but implied as some kind of empirical evidence as to why she isn't playing more.Jazz - Geno has been quoted as saying what a great practice player, Aubrey Griffin has been throughout her 2 years at UCONN. So, for anyone to say that AG might not be a good practice player, might be mistaken
I have no evidence for that just a guess..I pointed out Nika forced herself to start because of the way she played in practicehmmmm. It was not said but implied as some kind of empirical evidence as to why she isn't playing more.
Anyway, I think she should play more in general and in the last game for certain. I love to hear what GA would say, but that doesn't mean I would agree. She just does things immediately that affect the game and does it every time. Why wouldn't you give her a little more playing time? Why does EW and CW in particular need to play 35 plus minutes. There are different ways to win and AG can be a way to help us win.
Geno has answered questions about Aubrey's minutes on several occasions, and he always says the same thing. He says that if you watch Aubrey play, she does many things that make you say, "She should be playing 40 minutes every game", and she also does many things that make you say, "She ought to be put at the end of the bench until she stops doing that crazy stuff". He said he is trying to get more of the "good Aubrey" and less of the "bad Aubrey".hmmmm. It was not said but implied as some kind of empirical evidence as to why she isn't playing more.
Anyway, I think she should play more in general and in the last game for certain. I love to hear what GA would say, but that doesn't mean I would agree. She just does things immediately that affect the game and does it every time. Why wouldn't you give her a little more playing time? Why does EW and CW in particular need to play 35 plus minutes. There are different ways to win and AG can be a way to help us win.
The money would be nice, but I couldn’t stand all you S.O.B.’s on the Boneyard second guessing me every day.....😉Maybe you should start asking. There's nothing wrong with you making the big bucks.![]()
My problem is with the motion offense as well. Of course I preface any comments with the fact that Geno has 1100 more wins than me. Got that out of the way! Sometimes Geno doesn't make adjustments. Is it because he wants the team to fight through the problems? Arkansas, he knows 500 ways to stop Dungee, but he chose not to do anything about her. Is this "tough love" or is he a step slow now.
IMO he can run his motion from a million different sets. Even my dull coaching brain had 4-5 sets. For example, you can start out 4 high, 2 wings and 2 high posts at the elbows. Then you start your action. 4 low, wings are in the corners and posts are on the blocks. Then you start your action. I still love the 4 starting on the blocks with screens to free up the wings. That 5th grade action would have freed up our wings for shots, drives, post passes. And screeners always show to the ball. Then the flashes high come with pick and roll action etc.
Marquette IMO is a really good YMCA team. We're UConn. They just happen to be the best team in the BE after us. There are physically talented teams in the NCAA. What happens now, going forward, if teams overplay our guards, go under screens, forcing players to shoot and they leave our post alone at the high post and 1 on 1 inside. Liv played good but .... she may not be one of our best players and teams are going to make her beat them. Come on Geno, break out your bag of tricks. If I never see another hand-off..... Thanks BY. I feel better now!
Developing players as Geno does is a marathon, not a sprint. I believe Aubrey will be a great player if she sticks to what he is teaching her. She does bring a lot to the game but she also takes something away by her lack of shooting ability. That’s where Geno earns his money because he has to know when and how to use her in such a way that her contributions outweigh her weaknesses on offense. This plays out all across the team. Mixing and matching all the various skill sets to achieve an effective whole is (I believe) one of Geno’s special gifts as a coach, one that he does better than almost everyone else. That’s why he loves a player like Paige so much as she provides him with a central core that he can then build around. Having said all that, it would be interesting to know how much time and effort Aubrey has and will put into developing and practicing an effective jump shot. It’s just hard to understand how such a potentially gifted basketball player could have reached what is essentially the pinnacle of college basketball without at least a passable jumper. It speaks to how talented she is, I guess.Better is quite an understatement..Before that game I had watched Dungee play about 6 or 7 games and about the same amount last year and the girl is a terrific basketball player AG is not
As far as Geno goes there are a lot of things thru the years I have questioned or disagreed on but not playing time..He and his staff see these kids practice every day.Like Bill Belichick benching Malcom Butler I thought cost the Pats another Super Bowl..but it's his team and he can do what ever he wants just like Geno can..How about when he benched Stewie her freshman year..I and many others didn't agree with it but he knew what he was doing..can AG play an important role on the team..absolutely..but it's Geno's job to know when to play her
Well if making an impact as soon as you come in the game, every single time does not deserve more playing time, then I am at a loss for what a coach would want from a player.Geno has answered questions about Aubrey's minutes on several occasions, and he always says the same thing. He says that if you watch Aubrey play, she does many things that make you say, "She should be playing 40 minutes every game", and she also does many things that make you say, "She ought to be put at the end of the bench until she stops doing that crazy stuff". He said he is trying to get more of the "good Aubrey" and less of the "bad Aubrey".
But this late in the season, with the stakes so high, I don't expect her minutes to increase unless she demonstrates that the "bad Aubrey" has been put to bed.
BTW, someone here said that Saylor isn't picking up the offense and defense despite practicing for a while now. I see no evidence of that. To my amateur eyes, she is doing what she is supposed to do on both offense and defense (at least as well as anyone who isn't a regular starter can be expected to do). She may not be doing it with a great deal of skill yet -- and I must admit that she doesn't seem to have the athleticism that I would have expected from such a highly ranked high school player. In high school highlight reels, her movements looked more fluid than they do in current games. I think it's more than possible that her movements seem wooden and tentative because she is thinking so much and trying too hard to avoid mistakes, not unlike Molly Bent used to do. But I don't see any indication that she is "not getting it" (in the sense that seems to apply to Mir this year and Aubrey last year).
it didnt sound like a guess....more like a fact.I have no evidence for that just a guess..I pointed out Nika forced herself to start because of the way she played in practice
Really?there are are other ways to do things that other coaches have done and got the same results.
When was that epiphany moment when everyone decided that ALL basketball players have to be able to shoot. Has the game evolved to that point, without me knowing it? I played a little D3 ball for a wonderful program and only 7 or 8 guys on the team could shoot. Maybe 3 really good. Shooting at D3 is virtually the same as D1. Everyone is like 3 inches shorter. Funny how players complemented each other. We ran our stuff until we got a good shot, which was different for each player on the floor. Coach ran stuff that took advantage of players strengths.Developing players as Geno does is a marathon, not a sprint. I believe Aubrey will be a great player if she sticks to what he is teaching her. She does bring a lot to the game but she also takes something away by her lack of shooting ability. That’s where Geno earns his money because he has to know when and how to use her in such a way that her contributions outweigh her weaknesses on offense. This plays out all across the team. Mixing and matching all the various skill sets to achieve an effective whole is (I believe) one of Geno’s special gifts as a coach, one that he does better than almost everyone else. That’s why he loves a player like Paige so much as she provides him with a central core that he can then build around. Having said all that, it would be interesting to know how much time and effort Aubrey has and will put into developing and practicing an effective jump shot. It’s just hard to understand how such a potentially gifted basketball player could have reached what is essentially the pinnacle of college basketball without at least a passable jumper. It speaks to how talented she is, I guess.
I believe all team's "Flaws" will be exposed when they get to the Elite 8 and even before. The team that overcomes them will win the NC.Sadly, I fear (and I hope I am wrong), that UCONN's "Flaws" notably on the offensive side of the game, with a lack of a consistent outside threat (outside of Paige) will be exposed when they get to the Elite 8
And not to mention probably Arkansas again in the 3rd round of the NCAAs..... It doesn't make sense to me that Aaliyah & Liv are not full time, with Nika & Evina splitting time to give Evina some needed rest.The Huskies will very likely get another shot at the Golden Eagles in the BE finals. Let’s hope they’re better prepared.
It might be that Anna, CW, & Evina have reduced time next yearEdwards is the 2nd best player on this team. I want Anna back!