March General CBB Discussion Thread

[DRBackup]

I don't know Tulsa's specific metrics like WAB and the Q1 and Q2 wins, but I would rather they get in vs. some half-ass mediocre power conference team with an under 0.500 conference record that lost in the semifinals or quarterfinals in their conference tournament.

They played 6 games, total, against KenPom teams rated 100 or lower. They went 2-4. Much like Miami of Ohio, you do have to play SOMEBODY and they didn't. But they also lost 6 games, unlike Miami. Miami lost just one game, but if that game had been in December, they'd be sitting at home right now. The ONLY reason they're in is the "undefeated" narrative.

 

[RuffRuff]

Seton Hall wouldn’t have had a chance if St John’s did better OOC. 3 BE teams are in the tournament and Seton Hall was 0-7 against them. 6 of those were Q1 opportunities (home vs Nova was Q2)

Look at Villanova. They lost all their games against the top 2 but went 15-1 against the rest. So even though they got embarrassed in the first round of the BET, they still comfortably made it

Seton Hall was in decent position after January, but then lost to Creighton and DePaul in February and didn’t make a BET run to compensate

Didn’t get snubbed and weren’t a victim of circumstance. They only have themselves to blame

They're lone good win this year was against 11 seed NC St, which given how bad the bubble was, isn't saying much.

Nova did have what was effectively a road win against Wisconsin.

 

[DRBackup]

We didn’t look physically overmatched.

We looked sped up by their pressure due to our lack of ball handling. We were plenty big enough.

We did miss Stewie though.

We only looked "physically overmatched" if this is what that is:

 

[caw]

Seton Hall wouldn’t have had a chance if St John’s did better OOC. 3 BE teams are in the tournament and Seton Hall was 0-7 against them. 6 of those were Q1 opportunities (home vs Nova was Q2)

Look at Villanova. They lost all their games against the top 2 but went 15-1 against the rest. So even though they got embarrassed in the first round of the BET, they still comfortably made it

Seton Hall was in decent position after January, but then lost to Creighton and DePaul in February and didn’t make a BET run to compensate

Didn’t get snubbed and weren’t a victim of circumstance. They only have themselves to blame

Probably right in that it wasn't just SJU. Them doing poorly OOC is more of an issue for perception of the league but honestly if they go 2-2 OOC in their big games and they are probably a 2, or 3 seed. They did drag the conference down though overall. Not enough to get SHU in but when you beat everyone in conference and can't win OOC it drags everyone down.

That said it was pretty much everyone but UConn OOC in the BE. Not horrible but not good enough. PC, Butler and Creighton were all 80-84 pushing them from Quad 1 road games to Quad 2 road games.

 

[MJ1]

They were an anchor on everyone's NET ratings. Seton Hall might have had a chance.

Seton Hall had one Quad 1 win and 0-7 against the Big East top 3 teams, nothing to do with St. John’s OOC schedule.

 

[DRBackup]

How are we a 2 seed and St. John’s a 4? They deserve a 3 from their play lately. Except for our beat down they are strengthening.

That's not how it works.

 

[FightOnCT]

Probably right in that it wasn't just SJU. Them doing poorly OOC is more of an issue for perception of the league but honestly if they go 2-2 OOC in their big games and they are probably a 2, or 3 seed. They did drag the conference down though overall. Not enough to get SHU in but when you beat everyone in conference and can't win OOC it drags everyone down.

That said it was pretty much everyone but UConn OOC in the BE. Not horrible but not good enough. PC, Butler and Creighton were all 80-84 pushing them from Quad 1 road games to Quad 2 road games.

St. John’s has played poorly in the noncon for the past 3 years. The perception part where they break against even mid-tier SEC teams while blazing through our conference still bothers me to no end.

Maybe this is how ACC schools felt when Duke won the conference in football despite losing to us in football.

 

[aceboon]

 

[DRBackup]

This feels significant lol

OMG, not that

 

[Lafayette]

Pitino needs to schedule a late season OOC game to take a pulse on where he really is.

Vampires have no pulse....

 

[Lafayette]

Oh and now Holloway is charged with 2.1 lbs of cannabis. Maybe he was taking plant biology and thought it was Schedule III now, so studyable.... ? What, no one buying that?

 

[Waquoit]

Yup, in this era of the NBA nobody is coming back that soon on an ACL, and when you consider college is like the pros these days and what he has at stake I just didn't see it happening this season.

Those ACL's take a couple of years. Maybe UConn could look for top players who bombed out one year after surgery on the bet they get back to their old selves in Year 2.

 

[HooperScooper]

Those ACL's take a couple of years. Maybe UConn could look for top players who bombed out one year after surgery on the bet they get back to their old selves in Year 2.

Now you sound like the Red Sox and Patriots! Spend money on proven players. We're UConn. Forget shopping in the bargain bin.

 

[gsmooth]

Pitino needs to schedule a late season OOC game to take a pulse on where he really is.

I think other schools will do this, too. The Michigan-Duke game got good publicity as it was the clash of titans with #1 rank team vs #3 ranked team.

 

[RuffRuff]

I think other schools will do this, too. The Michigan-Duke game got good publicity as it was the clash of titans with #1 rank team vs #3 ranked team.

In today's game, it makes sense. It give you a chance to measure up against the field at a point in the season where your team has some identity.

 

[FightOnCT]

Those ACL's take a couple of years. Maybe UConn could look for top players who bombed out one year after surgery on the bet they get back to their old selves in Year 2.

…or we could get top players who are available to play immediately?

 

[aceboon]

Mic needs to be retired and raised to the rafters

 

[HooperScooper]

Mic needs to be retired and raised to the rafters

Wow, that's bad. His family might want to have him see a doctor for memory issues.

 

[Inyatkin]

Wow, that's bad. His family might want to have him see a doctor for memory issues.

Probably thinking of Perry Ellis

 

[BFieldHusky]

Wow, that's bad. His family might want to have him see a doctor for memory issues.

The scary thing was how matter of fact he was about it.

 

[Mr. French]

The scary thing was how matter of fact he was about it.

Wouldn’t be Mike if he wasn’t definitely wrong.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Wow, that's bad. His family might want to have him see a doctor for memory issues.

They're laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[HooperScooper]

Wouldn’t be Mike if he wasn’t definitely wrong.

And thinking he's right. If that was on WFAN and someone called in to point out he was wrong he would some how try to defend what he said.

 

[Jaydumo20]

First game already crazy

 

[uconngb]

Wouldn’t be Mike if he wasn’t definitely wrong.

But also NEVER in doubt

 

[superjohn]

The scary thing was how matter of fact he was about it.

He's so pompous he'll explain how he wasn't wrong.

 

[TroyHall98]

Amazing if you can identify the little kid in the red jacket. a very unlikely outcome. this is somewhat basketball related given the name

Carlton!

 

[HuskyHawk]

Texas vs NC State is a pretty good game.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Texas vs NC State is a pretty good game.

I could use with a little less of Chuck’s views on how to fix college basketball. The lawsuits they keep losing don’t matter and the NCAA gets to set the rules for their “business” was quite a take.

 

[Jaydumo20]

I could use with a little less of Chuck’s views on how to fix college basketball. The lawsuits they keep losing don’t matter and the NCAA gets to set the rules for their “business” was quite a take.

True. But this is harder to watch than ever before. It just feels so different and not in a good way. Every player has a "former school" listed under his name. It's like I'm not really watching a complete team. I feel like I'm watching a bunch of ghosts