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superjohn said:
You seriously think all of what's happened this week is just because they lost a lot of games this season?
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Losing leads to less exposure and a lot of other things. No one said that everything is OK. I didn't say that. What I am saying is that people are leaving because the program is in very rough waters. The combination of losing and the AAC is causing this. Do I believe there is a problem with development? Certainly not with guards like MAL. No way. With the bigs, sure. Enoch might have felt he was just not going to develop here. But no way should that be an issue with MAL. If MAL really feels he can't develop as a guard under Ollie, he hasn't been watching.
 
upstater said:
Did you grow up in Connecticut?

Because there were always Patriots fans here. In fact, one of the reasons Kraft even considered moving to Connecticut is because 20% of the Patriots season ticket holders are from Connecticut. we used to drive up all the time. Not sure how old you are but back when NBC had the AFC contract, the Patriots were on every week. In the 1990s, when the Patriots went downhill and the franchise was in turmoil, they lost a lot of fans, as happens when teams win 1 or 2 games a year, and that also coincided with a new network and less TV (as the new network started featuring the Jets).
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Not trying to disagree just saying in the 60's in Meriden CT I didn't know of one Patriot fan probably through to moving to WesMass in '90. There were Giants, Cowboys, Raiders and a few Jets and Steelers but no Pats fans at all and I'm not kidding. Not until Grogan did they even show up on anyone's radar in mid CT.. Not saying there weren't any but they would be very hard to find.
 
UCweCONN said:
Were there any Patriot fans before Tom Brady? I don't remember knowing any when I was growing up.
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Yes, I was a fan when Steve Grogan and Tony Eason where there losing to the Bears in the Superbowl XX. I great up a Red Sox and Patriots fan in West Hartford. Had to go through a lot of pain before loving the 2000's. With UCONN doing well that is my favorite time in sports for me.
 
upstater said:
Did you grow up in Connecticut?

Because there were always Patriots fans here. In fact, one of the reasons Kraft even considered moving to Connecticut is because 20% of the Patriots season ticket holders are from Connecticut. we used to drive up all the time. Not sure how old you are but back when NBC had the AFC contract, the Patriots were on every week. In the 1990s, when the Patriots went downhill and the franchise was in turmoil, they lost a lot of fans, as happens when teams win 1 or 2 games a year, and that also coincided with a new network and less TV (as the new network started featuring the Jets).
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I'm old enough to remember when my Bears crushed the Patriots in the 1985 season Super Bowl. There were almost no Patriots fans in the western part of the state. It was Giants and Jets with sizable Cowboys and Steelers fans. I think more people in western CT rooted for the Bears than Patriots. People who are younger than 35 think it's always been Patriots country. It hasn't. The Patriots never considered moving to CT. It was a move by Kraft to get a new stadium in MA.
 
mauconnfan said:
Not trying to disagree just saying in the 60's in Meriden CT I didn't know of one Patriot fan probably through to moving to WesMass in '90. There were Giants, Cowboys, Raiders and a few Jets and Steelers but no Pats fans at all and I'm not kidding. Not until Grogan did they even show up on anyone's radar in mid CT.. Not saying there weren't any but they would be very hard to find.
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Well that's a different story. I am a bit younger, still in my 40s, started watching in the mid 70s, and became a fan in 1976. But I'm not at all surprised that there weren't many fans of a losing AFL expansion franchise in the 1960s. I think the original poster's question is about Pats fans prior to 2001.
 
mauconnfan said:
Not trying to disagree just saying in the 60's in Meriden CT I didn't know of one Patriot fan probably through to moving to WesMass in '90. There were Giants, Cowboys, Raiders and a few Jets and Steelers but no Pats fans at all and I'm not kidding. Not until Grogan did they even show up on anyone's radar in mid CT.. Not saying there weren't any but they would be very hard to find.
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You are correct, no Patriots fans growing up in Plainville in the 70's. Very few Jets fans too. Just Giants and all the front runner Steeler, Cowboy and Dolphins fans.
 
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upstater said:
Losing leads to less exposure and a lot of other things. No one said that everything is OK. I didn't say that. What I am saying is that people are leaving because the program is in very rough waters. The combination of losing and the AAC is causing this. Do I believe there is a problem with development? Certainly not with guards like MAL. No way. With the bigs, sure. Enoch might have felt he was just not going to develop here. But no way should that be an issue with MAL. If MAL really feels he can't develop as a guard under Ollie, he hasn't been watching.
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Guards are the only thing we develop.
 
upstater said:
Well that's a different story. I am a bit younger, still in my 40s, started watching in the mid 70s, and became a fan in 1976. But I'm not at all surprised that there weren't many fans of a losing AFL expansion franchise in the 1960s. I think the original poster's question is about Pats fans prior to 2001.
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yeah just throwing out the landscape of the area when an old fart was growing up.
 
mauconnfan said:
Not trying to disagree just saying in the 60's in Meriden CT I didn't know of one Patriot fan probably through to moving to WesMass in '90. There were Giants, Cowboys, Raiders and a few Jets and Steelers but no Pats fans at all and I'm not kidding. Not until Grogan did they even show up on anyone's radar in mid CT.. Not saying there weren't any but they would be very hard to find.
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They were definitely in the Hartford area when I was growing up in the 80's. I believe everybody north of Hartford were Patriots fans. Of course being down in Meriden I can see were you would only find New York fans.
 
3rdbass said:
They were definitely in the Hartford area when I was growing up in the 80's. I believe everybody north of Hartford were Patriots fans. Of course being down in Meriden I can see were you would only find New York fans.
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I was in New Haven, and most of the people were Giants fans, a handful of Patriots fans (about 8 of us would drive up in 2 cars to Foxboro a couple times a year), with very few Jets fans.

As I said, 20% of the season ticket holder fanbase was from Connecticut.
 
80shusky said:
Many folks here are making this about us. As in the program has a problem. Conflating all these different situations may be wrong. This could all be about me. Enoch is leaving for playing time. That is about me. Vance is leaving because his talents aren't being showcased in his mind, or his dad's. That is about me. MAL may be leaving for the same reasons. He's at best the fourth guard off the bench next year especially after the year Vital had. This could be about me, not us. We want kids who are about us, not about me. Don't assume it is about us, unless we find out it is about us. It could all be about me. Pour yourself a nice glass of scotch, get a good premium cigar going and take a deep breath. Whoever is on the court in the fall will be about us, not about me. Whoever they may be I'm going to cheer for them. Go Huskies!
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I've got a beautiful bridge I would love to sell you
 
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3rdbass said:
They were definitely in the Hartford area when I was growing up in the 80's. I believe everybody north of Hartford were Patriots fans. Of course being down in Meriden I can see were you would only find New York fans.
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Not true as there were tons of Red Sox fans. Pats just weren't there yet in the 60's-70's growing up. I mean Meriden was 2 hours to NYC and 2 hours to Boston, right in the middle. You were on or the other and we had great wiffle ball games and backyard football battles due to that. Basketball was a funny thing, most leaned to the Celts in the late 60's-70's with Hondo, Jo Jo, KC, Big Red etc etc......
 
UCweCONN said:
Guards are the only thing we develop.
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Its going to be a lot easier to develop bigs if Chillious can recruit the type of bigs he was hired to do. There really aren't that many good bigs in college hoops if you haven't noticed. One legit big commit could flip this entire perception. I doubt we have this talking point if we land a polished 1 and done like Stone. I have bigger worries.
 
upstater said:
I was in New Haven, and most of the people were Giants fans, a handful of Patriots fans (about 8 of us would drive up in 2 cars to Foxboro a couple times a year), with very few Jets fans.

As I said, 20% of the season ticket holder fanbase was from Connecticut.
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Growing up in Fairfield in the 90's, I would say it was something like 50/30/20 Giants Jets Pats.I definitely grew up with some sad sack Pats fans who would soon become insufferable. Definitely not all front runners.
 
mauconnfan said:
Not true as there were tons of Red Sox fans. Pats just weren't there yet in the 60's-70's growing up. I mean Meriden was 2 hours to NYC and 2 hours to Boston, right in the middle. You were on or the other and we had great wiffle ball games and backyard football battles due to that. Basketball was a funny thing, most leaned to the Celts in the late 60's-70's with Hondo, Jo Jo, KC, Big Red etc etc.
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Well Meriden is closer to Waterbury area. I was talking about the Hartford area were there was definitely a decent amount of PATS fans there.
 
formerlurker said:
Is it OK to say now that I think he looks like Wanda Sykes?
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After a day to reflect, am I the only one thinking good riddance with MAL??

It's difficult to name a decommit or transfer under Ollie or Calhoun that became a stud All-America.

Mo Harkless might have been the best player?And he left after a year

Like breaking up with a chick. Hurts at first, then you're just like, good luck being a back up point guard somewhere else with no jump shot and playing with your greatest skill being that you're a 'winner'
 
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nyhuskies13 said:
After a day to reflect, am I the only one thinking good riddance with MAL??

It's difficult to name a decommit or transfer under Ollie or Calhoun that became a stud All-America.

Mo Harkless might have been the best player?And he left after a year

Like breaking up with a chick. Hurts at first, then you're just like, good luck being a back up point guard somewhere else with no jump shot and playing with your greatest skill being that you're a 'winner'
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Hazelton became RI all time leading scorer or something didn't he?
 
nyhuskies13 said:
After a day to reflect, am I the only one thinking good riddance with MAL??

It's difficult to name a decommit or transfer under Ollie or Calhoun that became a stud All-America.

Mo Harkless might have been the best player?And he left after a year

Like breaking up with a chick. Hurts at first, then you're just like, good luck being a back up point guard somewhere else with no jump shot and playing with your greatest skill being that you're a 'winner'
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Good point though. Guys that leave also leave our memories. Curtis was good at k state. But can't recall
 
MervthePurvis said:
Hazelton became RI all time leading scorer or something didn't he?
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I don't know you, but you would've averaged 6pts and 3rbs on those Rhode Island teams

Fact that we have to reach back 11yrs to remember one also speaks volumes
 
Curtis did average 10pts, 5rbs as a senior on a squad.

We also won a title that year.

Point is, we hardly ever really miss these guys. MAL hurts based on timing and general direction of the program.

But he could've saved that little tweet - no one gives . Tell your stories walkin MAL... no one is going to stay tuned
 
nyhuskies13 said:
After a day to reflect, am I the only one thinking good riddance with MAL??

It's difficult to name a decommit or transfer under Ollie or Calhoun that became a stud All-America.

Mo Harkless might have been the best player?And he left after a year

Like breaking up with a chick. Hurts at first, then you're just like, good luck being a back up point guard somewhere else with no jump shot and playing with your greatest skill being that you're a 'winner'
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This is a little too hater-iffic for me. MAL is going to be a good player. He would have gotten a lot of minutes next year. We can replace him if we land a top 100 guard, and I highly preferred Tremont, but lets not act like he is a scrub. I also really wish we could nail down that Mass Rivals pipeline and that notion looks kinda dead...
 
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Rebuilds are always way deeper than people anticipate.

Homer fans - of which this board is full of in abundance - will probably not like what they see.

Half will make huge excuses for failure. Half will us the missteps as a reason for change. Both are mostly stupid, so both are wrong.

This team was a broken piece of crap this year. Chemistry issues were abundant. Execution issues were abundant. Clear that there were ego issues, etc. Also underperformance issues. Also poor coaching issues. Throw this whole steaming pile of crap in a dumpster. Light it on fire.

And see what's left, learn from your mistakes and correct. So far - Ollie seems to be making an attempt to do that, so good on him. He doesn't have much time left on my personal good will timeline, here - but he's doing what he should have and should be abundantly obvious to anyone who watched this team play more than 3 games.
 
upstater said:
Yes, it does. Because this is one year. And as I've said, they are leaving because they are losing.

The next guy isn't going to recruit like this.
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I agree, but how many times do you see that many players jumping ship for 1 losing season, unless of course we are referring to the performance over the last three seasons. Even that doesn't add up entirely
 
MervthePurvis said:
Good point though. Guys that leave also leave our memories. Curtis was good at k state. But can't recall
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Curtis was also benched multiple times and had huge troubles with the coach. Was a head case there.
 
SouthBayHusky said:
I agree, but how many times do you see that many players jumping ship for 1 losing season, unless of course we are referring to the performance over the last three seasons. Even that doesn't end up entirely
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Great point. These kids think the ship is sinking, clearly. Not Enoch--I think he genuinely left because of fears about development. But the idea that UConn's losing causes fear in these kids. Remember with Harkless's handler when he said that the days of UConn winning were over? This sort of story feeds on itself.
 
mauconnfan said:
Not trying to disagree just saying in the 60's in Meriden CT I didn't know of one Patriot fan probably through to moving to WesMass in '90. There were Giants, Cowboys, Raiders and a few Jets and Steelers but no Pats fans at all and I'm not kidding. Not until Grogan did they even show up on anyone's radar in mid CT.. Not saying there weren't any but they would be very hard to find.
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Grew up in the 80's and 90's in Northwest CT. and I also didn't know a single Patriots fan.
 
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