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The running game will go back to what it looked like under Edsall. It will feature power and there will be plenty that goes between the tackles. It will attempt to keep defenses honest and set up play action. Exactly 10 minutes after kick-off of the BYU game fans will be complaining that the offense is too predictable and needs to be opened up. I'm not kidding......
 
gioff23 said:
You don't bash the kids because (a) they are kids; (b) they play at a level all of us can only fantasize about; and (c) unlike Boneyarders, they are unable to defend themselves here. Aside from that, bash away.

And if i read HCBD right, he would disagree with the assessment that everyone gave full out effort. There's a clear message here - the new sherriff town in town wants things done a certain way. Buy in or he will you buy you out.

As for Lyle, I wish him all of the best. Getting the degree is job 1, so congrats there. Hopefully, he finds the next stage of his life full of success.
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1) No one "bashed" McCombs.
2) He turned 22 almost two months ago. He is hardly a kid. The age card should only be played with recruits, IMO.
3) Michael Vick played at a level we can only fantasize about. It didn't stop a Virginia judge from tossing him in jail. Actions have consequences unless you play for Florida State (Even then, I expect Winston to cross the wrong person and pay dearly).
4) Coming off a 3-9 season these guys have bigger fish to fry, whether they are on the team or were dismissed for whatever reason.

Agree the your second two sentences.
 
The question was posed - why is it ok to bash boneyarders and not players. I responded to that Q and was not suggesting there was (not) bashing of Lyle.

We'll agree to disagree on when you can bash boys/men still in school.

No idea where the Vick reference came from, but apparently you have issues with him.

And I completely disagree with your slamming of FSU. That school can only dream of a day when they lower themselves to the level of Louisville!
 
gioff23 said:
The question was posed - why is it ok to bash boneyarders and not players. I responded to that Q and was not suggesting there was (not) bashing of Lyle.
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Then you took the question out of context. Boneyarders defending themselves has nothing to Sportsart's original comments.

My point is 1) players are in the public eye and are not above constructive criticism at this level.
2) The same decorum should be extended to a fellow boneyarder as to a player or player's relative.
3) Given the posts up to that point, the friendly reminder was not yet necessary.

That said, this is not a productive argument. That is my last word on the subject.
 
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Husky25 said:
Then you took the question out of context. Boneyarders defending themselves has nothing to Sportsart's original comments.
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So you've decided to make this thread all about you and not the OP.

Let me put it so simply, even you can understand. It's about respect. Respect for Lyle and his father who reads and contributes to this board.

My comment was directed at a poster who brought up Lyle's personal life. That, IMHO, does no good and is not needed. There are consequences for our actions and Lyle paid the price. For someone, not you, to say they were basically glad he was gone....boggles the mind.

Why not wish him well, congrats on the degree and move on?

Gioff is right...we can defend ourselves on here. Discussing someone's character, where they can not defend themselves is just not right.

I was always taught if you have nothing good to say, don't say anything. Again, it's about respect.

By the way....could you do a background check on yourself and post the results for us to see? Thanks in advance.

For those who think it's because I know players parents so I can't be impartial you will find out this is not the case. Lyle's dad was the last parent I knew on the team. But going forward I will always stand up for the players. Glass houses.....
 
sportsart said:
Let me put it so simply, even you can understand. It's about respect...
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I thought I was done, but apparently you want to prolong this discussion...by getting personal...

How do you reconcile these two sentences? You call me stupid (for at least the second time) and then mention respect? You don't even know me!!

sportsart said:
Why not wish him well, congrats on the degree and move on?
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I did and so did the poster in question. You chose to read around that and get offended when it wasn't your turn to be offended.

sportsart said:
By the way....could you do a background check on yourself and post the results for us to see? Thanks in advance.
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There ain't nothin' there to get your panties in a twist over. I have a job, a house, good credit, and a family. I've made my share of questionable decisions, but I've never been arrested or have any major regrets. I've dealt with any consequences of my actions to date, learned from them, and have moved on. I'm also, by choice, not at the level of public eye that goes along with being a Division 1 FBS college football player.

Thanks for your concern.
 
sportsart said:
So you've decided to make this thread all about you and not the OP.

Let me put it so simply, even you can understand. It's about respect. Respect for Lyle and his father who reads and contributes to this board.

My comment was directed at a poster who brought up Lyle's personal life. That, IMHO, does no good and is not needed. There are consequences for our actions and Lyle paid the price. For someone, not you, to say they were basically glad he was gone....boggles the mind.

Why not wish him well, congrats on the degree and move on?

Gioff is right...we can defend ourselves on here. Discussing someone's character, where they can not defend themselves is just not right.

I was always taught if you have nothing good to say, don't say anything. Again, it's about respect.

By the way....could you do a background check on yourself and post the results for us to see? Thanks in advance.

For those who think it's because I know players parents so I can't be impartial you will find out this is not the case. Lyle's dad was the last parent I knew on the team. But going forward I will always stand up for the players. Glass houses.....
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I think there's a middle ground here and not everything is black and white.

I don't think people should go out of their way to bash LM.

But I also think it's ridiculous to not expect people to discuss his background given Diaco's comments.

I don't buy the glass houses and keep your mouths shut just because LM's father posts here. They're D1 football players in the public eye. I say all of this with the utmost respect for Puppy4.

I wish Lyle and his dad nothing but the best. Hopefully Lyle will learn from his mistakes as he moves on in life. That's really all I have to say on the matter.
 
sportsart said:
So you've decided to make this thread all about you and not the OP.

Let me put it so simply, even you can understand. It's about respect. Respect for Lyle and his father who reads and contributes to this board.

My comment was directed at a poster who brought up Lyle's personal life. That, IMHO, does no good and is not needed. There are consequences for our actions and Lyle paid the price. For someone, not you, to say they were basically glad he was gone....boggles the mind.

Why not wish him well, congrats on the degree and move on?

Gioff is right...we can defend ourselves on here. Discussing someone's character, where they can not defend themselves is just not right.

I was always taught if you have nothing good to say, don't say anything. Again, it's about respect.

By the way....could you do a background check on yourself and post the results for us to see? Thanks in advance.

For those who think it's because I know players parents so I can't be impartial you will find out this is not the case. Lyle's dad was the last parent I knew on the team. But going forward I will always stand up for the players. Glass houses.....
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I guess I should chime in here and clarify. I'm not happy that Lyle has had problems in his past nor do I find it satisfying, like some personal vendetta, that he was tossed off the team. My point was that he has had some very PUBLIC mistakes during his tenure and he is now being met with the very real and appropriate consequences for those actions. No glass house here, I've made mistakes and I've paid for them with real world consequences. I won't outline them here for you publicly because I'm not in the public eye. He is. He plays for my Alma mater and is held to standards set by them. PP did not address those broken standards. HCBD has now dealt with them appropriately and is now moving forward in the right direction IMO.

I am moving on, by agreeing and stating that this is a decision I agree with and believe is for the best of the program. I can move on, the program can move on, and Lyle can move on but not with this team. Again, I wish Lyle the very best and hope he does get his degree and becomes successful with his life.
 
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Waquoit said:
When they get aarrested for something.
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I'd even give them a bit more slack. It's the first f-up after the arrest. Even good kids can have one misdemeanor lapse in judgement. But once they go before the judge and get their wrists slapped, youth going bye-bye is part of the sentence.

I'll go down this cobra hole. That's why several people, myself included, were irritated with TO on the basketball team. He kept repeating the same mistakes and was hurting the team by his repeated actions.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
I think there's a middle ground here and not everything is black and white.

I don't think people should go out of their way to bash LM.

But I also think it's ridiculous to not expect people to discuss his background given Diaco's comments.

I don't buy the glass houses and keep your mouths shut just because LM's father posts here. They're D1 football players in the public eye. I say all of this with the utmost respect for Puppy4.

I wish Lyle and his dad nothing but the best. Hopefully Lyle will learn from his mistakes as he moves on in life. That's really all I have to say on the matter.
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I never said keep your mouth shut. But you go ahead..

This is who I directed my post at, but unfortunately I did not quote him at the time. There was just no need for it. Especially from a drive by newbie.

Big Calihouns said:
I get that Lyle has been our leading rusher for the past 3 years, but if you're an actual UConn fan and have watched the games are you really sad to see him go? Don't get me wrong best of luck to him and hope he does graduate, but this is a decision I'm happy HCBD made.

1). When PP allowed Lyle to play the day or two after he was arrested it was a huge embarrassment to the program IMO
2). The dude had more negative runs than anyone I've ever watched play the game
3). He has been disciplined on MULTIPLE occasions

This seems to be HCBD continuing to clean house and move the program forward positively. I don't feel at all that we'll have a drop off because Delo is a better back IMO. Plus, Mariner and Newsome competing to get on the field has to produce some yards.
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sportsart said:
I never said keep your mouth shut. But you go ahead..

This is who I directed my post at, but unfortunately I did not quote him at the time. There was just no need for it. Especially from a drive by newbie.
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Haha, this right here is why I'm a "drive by newbie." According to you I can't participate in a discussion and express a very valid opinion because I don't post often enough like a "seasoned online message board professional." There is a very real need for us to discuss his past public transgressions and hold him accountable to them so that we don't become accustomed to them in the future. Again, I was not attacking him or happy about his current situation. I was pointing out very real and publicly stated problems and agreeing with the decision that was made to move on without him on the team.

I feel that Delo will have a great season coming up and look forward to newsome and mariner battling it out for playing time behind him. Go Huskies!
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
I think there's a middle ground here and not everything is black and white.

I don't think people should go out of their way to bash LM.

But I also think it's ridiculous to not expect people to discuss his background given Diaco's comments.

I don't buy the glass houses and keep your mouths shut just because LM's father posts here. They're D1 football players in the public eye. I say all of this with the utmost respect for Puppy4.

I wish Lyle and his dad nothing but the best. Hopefully Lyle will learn from his mistakes as he moves on in life. That's really all I have to say on the matter.
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See, this is the kind of thing that is weird around here. It's something that has carried through for a while I think. WHen I first started writing a few years ago now - I pretty much had to everything short of a blood, urine and fingerprints to prove that I was NOT related to Zach Frazer. All based on the things I was writing about players, and all based on their performance on the field, and who I thought was doing well, and who wasn't and shoudl be playing and all that. What fans do. Weirdest thing ever. I'm still not related to Frazer btw.

last season, I blew my top after the UCF game - questioned a lot of stuff about the players and the program based on what happened during that game. A certain player happened to be the focus of my blowing my top. It was all based on, on field performance. What I saw, in behaviours, and performances. Lost my . I don't take a word back for it either. It was all accurate and on point in my opinion.

What happened? A certain parent decided to take offense and respond. (my personal opinion is that parents and friends should avoid fan forums like this at all costs, but whatever).

The powers that be that control this environment reprimanded me. For breaking the rule about being a d0uche.

I found that out, and still find it odd, that I was breaking the rule about being a d0uche, yet when it comes to things like attacking a players actual character and behavior off the field, which is something I try to avoid to do, and pretty sure I did do, and I kept going back yesterday when it became pretty clear that this leaving the program was not voluntary, things that were written and said about Cody Endres - specifically his character, when he not only was told he wouldn't play anymore, but also got his scholarship pulled, that I just decided to delete some stuff - which just happened to be quotes from the head coach anyway - nothing inflammatory - because I knew that friends and family were going to find out anyway, and I didn't want to be a contributor to that.

All of that, before sportsart wrote his post.

I think that it would be a good idea that there be guidelines of some basic sort, beyond - breaking the rules about being a - when somebody in a forum like this actually chooses to identify themselves as a relative of a player. whatever sport. Not for me to decide though.

That's all I'll write in this thread. Don't want to cause anymore undue aging process to the children reading.
 
Great points by a few on the "kid" thing. We forget there are 18 and 19 year-old kids sitting in Afghanistan getting their shot at. Somehow we assume college means kid, and we give them an extended lease of stupidity and irresponsibility.
 
You are just rambling now. Who did I disrespect in those quotes?
 
When you're representing your University on a national scale, whether as an athlete, a coach, or some high-ranking academic person, you should be held to a higher standard than an average person at the University. Average ordinary professors can get away with things that Susan Herbst cannot because she is the President and has a higher public image standard she needs to maintain. If a random professor yells at protestors on campus (which happened) the University doesn't bother to take action, but if President Herbst did the same thing, yelling at them and getting in their face, she could very well be removed from the position, since she has to maintain a better public image. Similarly, Bob Diaco, as head coach, has to meet a higher standard of conduct than average university employees, in athletics or otherwise, since he's a public face of the University on a national level. If Diaco does something inappropriate, it's a national embarrassment to the University. Same with Susan Herbst. If a random employee, whether in academics or athletics, does something inappropriate, it's not nearly as damaging to the University's reputation.

So why shouldn't the same apply to athletes themselves? If a random student did the same things Lyle McCombs did, nobody would really know or care. It certainly wouldn't damage the university's reputation. But when McCombs does these things, it's national news and it's embarrassing for the University. If you can't handle being held to a higher standard than regular students, you shouldn't be representing the University on a national stage. Plain and simple.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
I'll go down this cobra hole. That's why several people, myself included, were irritated with TO on the basketball team. He kept repeating the same mistakes and was hurting the team by his repeated actions.
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Yeah, they mighta won the whole thing by more points.
 
whaler11 said:
How bad was Pasqualoni?

His mistake may have been bigger than Lyle's in the incident that is being discussed.

What a debacle that guy was.
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No argument from me.....
 
whaler11 said:
How bad was Pasqualoni?

His mistake may have been bigger than Lyle's in the incident that is being discussed.

What a debacle that guy was.
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In hindsight, P was trying to cut corners with the program. Let a kid play that he should not have (at least the RU game), yet not demand the utmost committment to off season conditioning.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
I deleted the post because Zoo is right. I'm letting it go. You're a good guy. We can agree to disagree on this.
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He may be, but he is one high and mighty sanctimonious individual.
 
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