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7th ranked center ain't too shabby
Huge issue (and Mau I know this is your arena) is how tall he really is... 6-8 with little lift/athleticism is quite different than 6-10 with little lift/athleticism.
Perfect. Exactly what we need. As I said a few pages back just surround him with a couple good ballhandlers and a couple good shooters and go to work.And here is the Insider scouting report, ICYWW:
ESPN Analyst
Updated 10/04/2017
Strengths:
Kisunas is a rugged and physical post presence who throws his body around and embraces contact on both ends of the floor. He's a very well-schooled and savvy screener and also a good passer who rewards cutters. He has good hands, polished footwork, and the ability to turn either shoulder when able to establish deep position in the post. Defensively, he is effective guarding the block and an enforcer of sorts in the lane who punishes drivers, makes good use of his fouls, and rebounds his area.
Weaknesses:
He doesn't have a ton of lift in the lane, isn't a floor spacer offensively, and probably most comfortable as a complimenting piece offensively. He's much more of an enforcer in the lane than rim protector on the defensive end. Offensively, he's not much of a scoring threat beyond six feet or so and isn't an overly quick or instinctive finisher either.
Bottom Line:
His physicality, toughness, screening, post defense, and even his ability to pass, can impact the game at any level and so he can definitely be a valuable role player. What he isn't though is a volume scorer or dynamic athlete around the rim.
I love that you drive certain people insane. Crazies gonna cray.
Huge issue (and Mau I know this is your arena) is how tall he really is... 6-8 with little lift/athleticism is quite different than 6-10 with little lift/athleticism.
More importantly, what's his reach?
As far as not being a scoring threat "from more than 6 feet" that can be a bit misleading. Since he has "polished footwork" and can establish position deep in the post and can shoot/finish with either hand he might be quite a handful for anyone down low. If he is double teamed add the fact that he is a good passer and can kick out and it looks like a nice piece for an inside/outside offense. Based on this and the positive comments he looks like heaven sent to me. We did not recruit him as a three point threat. If he only gets to maybe the foul line for a mid range shotAnd here is the Insider scouting report, ICYWW:
ESPN Analyst
Updated 10/04/2017
Strengths:
Kisunas is a rugged and physical post presence who throws his body around and embraces contact on both ends of the floor. He's a very well-schooled and savvy screener and also a good passer who rewards cutters. He has good hands, polished footwork, and the ability to turn either shoulder when able to establish deep position in the post. Defensively, he is effective guarding the block and an enforcer of sorts in the lane who punishes drivers, makes good use of his fouls, and rebounds his area.
Weaknesses:
He doesn't have a ton of lift in the lane, isn't a floor spacer offensively, and probably most comfortable as a complimenting piece offensively. He's much more of an enforcer in the lane than rim protector on the defensive end. Offensively, he's not much of a scoring threat beyond six feet or so and isn't an overly quick or instinctive finisher either.
Bottom Line:
His physicality, toughness, screening, post defense, and even his ability to pass, can impact the game at any level and so he can definitely be a valuable role player. What he isn't though is a volume scorer or dynamic athlete around the rim.
While he may not be a shooter, from his videos it seemed like he can be a viable option on the pick and roll, as he can screen, knows to move aggressively to the hoop, has good hands to catch the ball on his way to the hoop, and looked to be able to finish around the basket. With that and scoring after offensive rebounds and via free throws (if he can shoot free throws, and get defenders off balance to draw fouls), he'd be a good complement on offense who could open up room for the guards.
Nope still think of it as a reach, actually slipped from 303 to 305 since the commit on 247 sports Composite rankings, but this is who we presently can recruit up front. We aren't getting any center that is very good because of lack of development of our big men the last few years and our present standing in college basketball. As the ESPN summary mentions he will be a good role player and not the person that the offense will flow through. I personally see him as a backup to Josh Carlton who i prefer at center presently.I don't recall him at the line much last year at Brewster, but 16 of 24 from the line in the 7 game Euro championships including a 6 for 6 in one game and 5 of 7 in another. Suggests more that he doesn't shoot vs he can't shoot. I also love the intangibles of anchoring the middle on a 33-0 National Champion, and playing important minutes in the post for teams that advanced to high finishes in Euro play. Coupling his team achievements, with his statements admiring UConn Championships, and his statements oriented to winning, I think we have added a great foundational piece to the program. With Sid we have 2 of the 5 starters on that 33-0 team, (down from 3 of the 5). With all our wing athletes, I hadn't been thinking about Carlton and Lucas on the court at the same time until somebody posted that thought. I find that intriguing. Also amusing that a ESPN 4* ranking will influence how some posters will view this signing vs a couple days ago.
Nope still think of it as a reach but this is who we presently can recruit up front. We aren't getting any center that is very good because of lack of development of big men the last few years and our present standing in college basketball. As the ESPN summary mentions he will be a good role player and not the person that the offense will flow through. I personally see him as a backup to Josh Carlton who i prefer at center presently.
From the videos I have seen I see a more athletic player who has some quicker post moves. He also seems to be a better shot blocker. I see both players of having good fundamentals especially passing. JC doesn't have the muscle that Kisunas has but I believe with a year under under his belt with our strength coach he will be able to battle down low.Since you’ve seen both of them play, what is it about ones game over the other?
No, he was around when KO was still in the league. I remember his going ballistic when a report out came saying they were going to build a parking garage at The Rent. It was never built so maybe he does have some influence.Spinzone: chief is actually KO
That was one of the worst issues he last few years. Bigs with terrible hands who could not finish near the hoop. Sounds like we are getting the opposite. PPerfect. Exactly what we need. As I said a few pages back just surround him with a couple good ballhandlers and a couple good shooters and go to work.
Nope still think of it as a reach, actually slipped from 303 to 305 since the commit on 247 sports Composite rankings,
Even with ignoring the ranking I noticed that he seems to be a solid but not a spectacular player. I'm a lot higher on Josh Carlton than this kid but understand why people are happy with the pickup. Either way if KO doesn't do well this year this could be the normal type of recruit we see on the team going forward.247 only has rankings on him from 2 of the 4 services. Ignore the composite.
Even with ignoring the ranking I noticed that he seems to be a solid but not a spectacular player. I'm a lot higher on Josh Carlton than this kid but understand why people are happy with the pickup. Either way if KO doesn't do well this year this could be the normal type of recruit we see on the team going forward.
Nothing against the kid I just prefer more athletic bigs in the style of play I like to watch. He looked really slow in his offensive moves in the raw tape which I don't want to see after having to watch AB for 4 years. LOL!I think you are underating what this kid brings to the table. He is smart, passes out of the post well, has a legit low post game, isn't afraid to bang.
The rankings favor lots of things that don't necessarily translate to winning. Although very different players, I see some of the same impact that a Neils Giffey had. He just plays winning basketball.
Nothing against the kid I just prefer more athletic bigs in the style of play I like to watch. He looked really slow in his offensive moves in the raw tape which I don't want to see after having to watch AB for 4 years. LOL!
If this kid can come in and defensively rebound and set good picks than I'm fine with him on the bench. I just hope we can find a more talented starter is my hope.
Like I said I don't mind him on the team but prefer he would be a backup to a more talented guy. He could challenge the more talented guy to perform better by working hard in practice. It is sad we are missing on all the top guys we want at our positions of needs.I will grant you the raw tape was not overly impressive. But more recent tape shows a stronger, more explosive player. Read the quotes from the Brewster head coach. He directly attributes winning championships to this kid's contributions. Winning trumps sizzle for me.
Do you think maybe you should watch him play first?Like I said I don't mind him on the team but prefer he would be a backup to a more talented guy.
ollie wants to set screen after screen after screen. he also wants a guy who can pick and popDo you think maybe you should watch him play first?
EDIT: Also, to be clear: As long as this guy is as great a screener as he's billed as, and as great a defensive rebounder as he's billed as, and as good a paint enforcer as he's billed as, IDGAF if he never blocks a shot or scores a bucket that's not a put-back.
Great screeners are so, so important and so, so underrated in the modern game.
If Ollie's recruiting trends hold we wont need athletic, offensive juggernaut big men. This is the exact type of big man we need. One that doesn't need shots or touches but will do all the dirty work(set screens, rebound, be an enforcer, leadership)Nothing against the kid I just prefer more athletic bigs in the style of play I like to watch. He looked really slow in his offensive moves in the raw tape which I don't want to see after having to watch AB for 4 years. LOL!
If this kid can come in and defensively rebound and set good picks than I'm fine with him on the bench. I just hope we can find a more talented starter is my hope.
I have a feeling this kid will score more than most people think
It's in his blood