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GoingPostal said:
Kim's non-conference schedule at LSU is similar to the ones she used to have at Baylor. Weak. It doesn't seem to hurt her teams in the polls but it may come back to bite them in March.
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It came back to bite Kim several times at Baylor when she lost games in Sweet Sixteen to lower seeded teams,
 
tigers4ever said:
Agree that Kim has historically scheduled weak OOC and relies on conference schedule to get tournament tough. Worked to perfection 3 times at Baylor and pretty good in every other year. Hoping it works to perfection at least once at LSU.
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I thought it was part of her scheduling philosophy to play the smaller teams in her region to give them a chance to play a big-time team.
 
Aluminny69 said:
What happened to Jordan Horston? She played so well against UConn, then was terrible agsainst LSU. Did they give any reason during the game?
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According to Kim in the post game presser, she credited Flau'jae for only being a rookie yet holding Horston to 11 points and 1 rebound.
I doubt that LSU is as strong as they need to be to win a NC and Kim probably knows that too.
But she says that her players are fighters with an elite will to win which sets them apart from other teams.
Whatever they can accomplish should be able to help her to keep recruiting good players.
Kim heaps praise on her players, they praise her and LSU benefits from all of the ratings hype.
She's a master at using the national spotlight.
That's her job, to motivate players and to grow her program.

 
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What's the largest point spread ever for a matchup of top three teams?
 
Cuango said:
Yeah, I don’t think Kim is overrated. She’s a hell of a coach. I think she’s a top three coach for sure. Her team is overrated on paper, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if they actually beat SC. Even if they don’t, I doubt you will see the 20 point MoV some posters are predicting.
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If LSU stays within 20 of SC, I'll be very encouraged about UConn's chances.
 
Aluminny69 said:
What happened to Jordan Horston? She played so well against UConn, then was terrible agsainst LSU. Did they give any reason during the game?
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I mean you could say the same for Lou, right? They're human. It happens.
 
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LETTERL said:
I thought it was part of her scheduling philosophy to play the smaller teams in her region to give them a chance to play
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LETTERL said:
I thought it was part of her scheduling philosophy to play the smaller teams in her region to give them a chance to play a big-time team.
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She probably does do that and rotates which schools she plays but I don't see that she does it anymore than any other P5 school does. I'm sure much of that is also do to travel costs. This year there were 4 Louisiana opponents scheduled but UNO cancelled. They might have cancelled last year as well.
 
I do not think LSU is a top 5 team. Watching the game, Reese struggled finishing over the size, speed, and strength of Tennessee. The foul situation was interesting all night, I understand having "home-court" advantage but from what I saw there is no way LSU only fouled 14 times all night. A 31-12 FT margin indicates some of what others have mentioned about the officiating. Similar to last year, I think LSU still has some trouble defending the 3. Tennessee hit 8 last night, and really could have been more because they missed a few wide open ones.

I think LSU is good, but I would be surpised if they are able to hang with South Carolina simply because of the size, depth, and defense on the other side. Beal will likely make things hard for Morris as well. Tennessee's issue is coaching and consistent effort. I just don't understand Striplin starting at this point and during game action I think they went away from Puckett too early. She started taking advantage of her mismatch and they just stopped. Horston also just didn't have it until late either.
 
Aluminny69 said:
What happened to Jordan Horston? She played so well against UConn, then was terrible agsainst LSU. Did they give any reason during the game?
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I thought Flaujae's defense on Horston was simply outstanding. She missed entirely way too many layups and easy shots she normally makes but to lock down Horston as a true freshmen is encouraging and it bodes well for her development in the long run. Flaujae is 5'10 but she is super long, quick, athletic and strong.

I still believe LSU is a year or two away. If their shots are clicking (Flaujae AND Morris especially) they can be dangerous to be competitive with almost anyone but its obvious they aren't there yet. I won't name names but there are players who are playing who are place holders until better talent comes along eventually.

Reese as gifted as she is needs to learn the value to the basketball offensively. I simply think she is way too carless with her shooting half the time and misses way too many easy layups assuming she will just get most of these misses. She also needs to work on more consistency with her mid range jumper. She has that open look every single game.
 
Didn’t Charlie have UConn ranked as a 1 seed and LSU as a 2 seed last Friday? Today he has UConn as a 1 seed with LSU as the 2 seed in that regional.

AP has them over ranked some. Massey has them as 4th with UConn as 2nd. An undefeated team coached by someone who has won 3 national championships is going to be ranked pretty high when every other school ranked below them but Indiana has 2 or more losses.
 
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I thought the LSU/Tennessee was pretty darn good. Another great game for SEC basketball and for women's basketball. It was worth watching. Like Coach Mulkey said in her post game presser, there are questions about her LSU squad. Heck, they have questions as well. But those questions and naysayers fuel their fire. Her presser was powerful. Remember, folks picked the Lady Vols ahead of LSU. As a competitive team, they wanted that smoke, and they handled Tennessee. It was a pretty darn good game.
 
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SECbbfan24 said:
I thought Flaujae's defense on Horston was simply outstanding. She missed entirely way too many layups and easy shots she normally makes but to lock down Horston as a true freshmen is encouraging and it bodes well for her development in the long run. Flaujae is 5'10 but she is super long, quick, athletic and strong.

I still believe LSU is a year or two away. If their shots are clicking (Flaujae AND Morris especially) they can be dangerous to be competitive with almost anyone but its obvious they aren't there yet. I won't name names but there are players who are playing who are place holders until better talent comes along eventually.

Reese as gifted as she is needs to learn the value to the basketball offensively. I simply think she is way too carless with her shooting half the time and misses way too many easy layups assuming she will just get most of these misses. She also needs to work on more consistency with her mid range jumper. She has that open look every single game.
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She ran way more plays for Morris similar to last year. Something we haven't seen much of this season. This was the Alexis Morris I expected. Get that out of her more often. The team becomes more dangerous.

Flau'Jae gonna get better in time. Her defense was definitely a sight to see. Carson is a hit and miss sometimes. When she involved. She's a great asset. I assume her defense is why she didn't see much minutes
 
Alexis Morris was on point last night. Reminds me of the freshman Alexis at Baylor. That high pick that she ran continuously in which Jolly failed to have her BIGS hedge was Tennessee’s undoing amongst other things. I’m not sure what Hollingshead was thinking on those high picks, but she continued to sag in the lane and Alexis scorched them. Was that the coach’s defensive plan. I Don’t care who my coach was/is, I would have hedged after the first dagger. Alexis was the fastest player on the court last night and she showed why she was the player of the game.
 
sun said:
Stanford beat Tennessee by 7 at home and LSU beat Tennessee by 8 at home.
UConn beat Villanova by 5 at home and Tennessee by 17 away.
That info and $1 would buy me a cup of coffee.
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Cheap coffee:D
 
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Here's the 31:58 condensed game so folks can make their own decision.
It was an exciting game with the bad calls shown not affecting the score.

 
LSU is going to bomb in the second round of the NCAA, just like they did against tOhio State last year, after Kim barely coached them past Jackson State in the first round 83-77.
 
MSGRET said:
LSU is going to bomb in the second round of the NCAA, just like they did against tOhio State last year, after Kim barely coached them past Jackson State in the first round 83-77.
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I agree, she isn’t a good coach. They will flame out early like most over rated Mulkey teams. I won’t be surprised if they lose in the first round

Once TN hires a real coach, LSU will be third in the pecking order in the SEC

The days of her having a massive talent advantage are over. She won’t be able to recruit against Dawn
 
Lol lawd I thought LSU hate was only for Twitter. .

I think we have flaws we have to fight through. But this team is well equipped to make it out of Baton Rouge the first two rounds. Without injuries of course.
 
MSGRET said:
LSU is going to bomb in the second round of the NCAA, just like they did against tOhio State last year, after Kim barely coached them past Jackson State in the first round 83-77.
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Whatever happens, this year has been such a fun totally unexpected bonus year. This team has totally overachieved and in the process galvanized wbb fans in Baton Rouge. I would think LSU would be top 5 in attendance. It's possible that some LS U fans see this team with rose colored glasses but fans that follow wbb as a whole understand that a rebuild on the level that LSU is attempting doesn't happen in year 2.
 
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I get all the "homerism" where logic and common sense are thrown out the window letting emotions and passions run wild but this thread is about 2 teams NOT named UConn. The NCAA Title will be decided on the court of play and not by some poll, which we know is not indicative of quality of the team (and why being ranked #1 before a tournament should not warrant a banner :rolleyes:).

That said, to say Kim Mulkey is overrated is absurd. She's won 3 national titles with 3 completely different teams in different eras. Yes maybe she could or should have won more with Griner but she is still an outstanding coach. She took over a putrid team in LSU LAST YEAR and brought them to the tournament where they hadn't made an appearance since 2017 AND they hadn't won a first round game since 2014. She drastically over-achieved and didn't know what this team's roster was going to be comprised of when she created who schedule-YES, Angel Reese (who was coached by Chloe Pavlich-former UConn grad assistant) signed with LSU AFTER the schedule was created. Now I am not defending Kim's practice of regularly scheduling cupcakes but she has been known to play tougher opponents when she knows she has a better team. I suspect that next year, with Reese returning and #2 prospect Mikayla Williams arriving on campus, that Kim will play a "slightly" better OOC plus the SEC will ensure she gets both SC and Tennessee twice next year.

Ignore the pollsters, they do not seed the teams for the NCAAT. Hopefully the committee will correctly use the tools they have and see through the holes in the LSU schedule and seed them accordingly. However, the committee is made up of 11 members, 5 of whom are P5 members so there is some scrutiny that I am sure will arise.
 
tigers4ever said:
Whatever happens, this year has been such a fun totally unexpected bonus year. This team has totally overachieved and in the process galvanized wbb fans in Baton Rouge. I would think LSU would be top 5 in attendance. It's possible that some LS U fans see this team with rose colored glasses but fans that follow wbb as a whole understand that a rebuild on the level that LSU is attempting doesn't happen in year 2.
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I think people has undermined Kim as a coach because of her behavior. But this woman is a great coach. I didn't expect us to be where we are at year 2. But I'm also not surprised because of how much I followed Kim throughout her years at Baylor. Some intangibles and tangibles she brings as a coach will always follow her and it will always result in success.

There was never a year that went by where Baylor wasn't top 5-10 in offense, defense, rebounding....etc

Oh and I've shared my thoughts on the schedule we have the day the schedule was released.
 
SECbbfan24 said:
I agree, she isn’t a good coach. They will flame out early like most over rated Mulkey teams. I won’t be surprised if they lose in the first round

Once TN hires a real coach, LSU will be third in the pecking order in the SEC

The days of her having a massive talent advantage are over. She won’t be able to recruit against Dawn
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Why this sudden turn against Kim?
 
SECbbfan24 said:
I agree, she isn’t a good coach. They will flame out early like most over rated Mulkey teams. I won’t be surprised if they lose in the first round

Once TN hires a real coach, LSU will be third in the pecking order in the SEC

The days of her having a massive talent advantage are over. She won’t be able to recruit against Dawn
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I can't tell if this is serious or if you're kidding.

Since arriving she landed the former #2 kid Angel Reese (who is going to be a 1st Team All American this year), Flaujae Johnson (who was sorely under ranked coming out of HS and in hindsight should've been a top 5 kid), and she just signed the #2 and #7 recruits in next years class. Plus LSU is potentially in the mix for the top 2 overall recruits for the 2024 class.

Prior to her arrival, LSU was 9-13 and averaged just 2,000 fans per game in the last precovid season. Her first year she takes the same group of players and leads them to a 26-6 record. This year despite having an almost completely brand new roster, she has them at 21-0, and they're averaging 8k+ fans per game (almost 10k fans per game in SEC play). Yeah the scheduling sucks and her team probably isn't really the third best in the country, but if there are 2 things Kim knows how to do, it's coach and recruit.
 
jpp13 said:
Why this sudden turn against Kim?
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bballnut90 said:
I can't tell if this is serious or if you're kidding.

Since arriving she landed the former #2 kid Angel Reese (who is going to be a 1st Team All American this year), Flaujae Johnson (who was sorely under ranked coming out of HS and in hindsight should've been a top 5 kid), and she just signed the #2 and #7 recruits in next years class. Plus LSU is potentially in the mix for the top 2 overall recruits for the 2024 class.

Prior to her arrival, LSU was 9-13 and averaged just 2,000 fans per game in the last precovid season. Her first year she takes the same group of players and leads them to a 26-6 record. This year despite having an almost completely brand new roster, she has them at 21-0, and they're averaging 8k+ fans per game (almost 10k fans per game in SEC play). Yeah the scheduling sucks and her team probably isn't really the third best in the country, but if there are 2 things Kim knows how to do, it's coach and recruit.
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They’re trolling. Lol.
 
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