Louisville not that good and ND not that bad

[Charliebball]

Next up for Louisville is Pitt. Should not be a difficult game for the birds. Follow that with Florida State, Miami and Wake Forrest. Then Virginia, the Cuse and Clemson before coming to Gampel.

FSU and Miami are possible trap games but I think the birds prevail setting up a match of the unbeatens on 2/12.

I would say the Florida State game could be there demise............they looked really good against Miami last night and can beat almost anybody when playing well..............

 

[TitleTown]

What is it you don't understand? The motivation part?
mo·ti·va·tion
ˌmōdəˈvāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: motivation; plural noun: motivations

1. the reason or reasons one has for acting or behaving in a particular way.
   "escape can be a strong motivation for travel"
   synonyms: motive, motivating force, incentive, stimulus, stimulation, inspiration, inducement, incitement, spur, reason;
   informalcarrot
   "his motivation was financial"
   • the general desire or willingness of someone to do something.
     "keep staff up to date and maintain interest and motivation"
     synonyms: enthusiasm, drive, ambition, initiative, determination, enterprise;
     informalget-up-and-go
     "keep up the staff's motivation"

 

[oldude]

I would say the Florida State game could be there demise..they looked really good against Miami last night and can beat almost anybody when playing well....

Agree that FSU will be a test, but it’s at Lou, so an upset is unlikely IMO.

 

[meyers7]

What is it you don't understand?

Why you think there is any possibility of Louisville being ranked above UCONN because they beat ND.

 

[TitleTown]

Why you think there is any possibility of Louisville being ranked above UCONN because they beat ND.

I don't, but people in the media, both tweeted about it and brought it up in the post game press conference.

 

[Roger G]

Not sure I agree that UConn is "not really any better roster-wise then ND"...unfortunately with their injury depleted roster, I don't see anybody on ND as athletic or as all-around brilliant as Williams, as offensively effective up front as Collier, as tough defensively as Nurse or as intimidating as Stevens......I suppose you could compare Mabrey to KLS but if you asked ND fans I think they'd trade for KLS any day of the week......sadly ND doesn't have a point guard like CD either so other then Ogunbowale I'm not sure where you find ND to be any where near even talent wise....

I agree with everything you said except that there is any comparison between Mabrey and KLS. KLS is much bigger and better. Otherwise, I totally agree. ND is nowhere near what UConn is. Their defense in particular was so weak in this game. Durr was shooting open shot after open shot.

 

[DefenseBB]

I beleive it will start out with Kia on Durr. But I would not be surprised if Geno pulled a switch and put Gabby on Durr. Now that would be fun!

Kia will be on Durr the majority of the time and Gabby will be on Hines-Allen. UConn, of course, will do its usually switching to cover the screens and movements but moving Gabby to Durr forces Pheesa on Hines-Allen, while not bad, Pheesa is not the same lock down defender that Gabby is. With Kia and Gabby on D, Louisville will have to rely on the others to step up and score. The other interesting point made here is we have 6 players who average double figures in points with anyone of them capable of going off-that's super tough to defend so Durr and Hines-Allen will have to play both ends of the floor. The game will be the most competitive of the year to that point but I still see UConn prevailing by 12-16 points.

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

I have to admit--I like Notre Dame! Watching the second half --of ND -Lullyville--to me in a word was disgusting. ND is better than that--but not his ND--short of everything it needs in every category.
Muffet and Company I feel bad for them.\
Whether Louisville is this good--or a fluke--I tend to think this isn't a true fluke, not abortion. They have some fire power.
The question for me is: How will they compare to Uconn. My ignorant belief is they won't. Ignorant in that I don't know what I don't know.

BroadwayVA... I sure hope you meant... "this isn't a true fluke, not an aberration" ??

 

[BroadwayVa]

BroadwayVA... I sure hope you meant... "this isn't a true fluke, not an aberration" ??

You are correct----aberrations---but maybe that post should have an abortion
Thanks..

 

[oldude]

Kia will be on Durr the majority of the time and Gabby will be on Hines-Allen. UConn, of course, will do its usually switching to cover the screens and movements but moving Gabby to Durr forces Pheesa on Hines-Allen, while not bad, Pheesa is not the same lock down defender that Gabby is. With Kia and Gabby on D, Louisville will have to rely on the others to step up and score. The other interesting point made here is we have 6 players who average double figures in points with anyone of them going off-that's super tough to defend so Durr and Hines-Allen will have to play both ends of the floor. The came will be the most competitive of the year to that point but I still see UConn prevailing by 12-16 points.

Absolutely agree. The other thing that will happen is when Louisville tries to run their high ball screen with Durr and Hines-Allen, either Kia will tenaciously fight over the top of the screen or Gabby will jump out hard to guard Durr with Kia locking up Hines-Allen. No easy open shots or drives to the basket like we witnessed repeatedly vs ND.

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

I don't, but people in the media, both tweeted about it and brought it up in the post game press conference.

In reality, the only poll that matters is the one that results from the National Championship Game.

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

You are correct----aberrations---but maybe that post should have an abortion
Thanks..

Had to make sure...cause the word that appeared could get some less than favorable reactions.

Got ur back!

 

[shizam]

Louisville has one of their best shooting games all season and beat the heck out of ND, while they only beat Air Force a 0-15 team 62-50. Which team shows up on 2/12.

Durr and Carter sat out that game but Cards did play badly vs Air Force

 

[Orangutan]

Anyone informed the Louisville people that this one performance is something UConn has done routinely for decades?

It's not even a fair comparison because ND had Thompson for the UConn game. And of course, Williams and KLS were not 100% when they played ND.

RPI, Sagarin, Massey, strength of schedule. *Everything* else favors UConn.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Had to make sure...cause the word that appeared could get some less than favorable reactions.

Got ur back!

It will take an army of English experts to "have my back". But surely, I do appreciate the catch---I've said this before, and it's true, my brain thinks one thing, my fingers type another. Have no idea where "abortion" came from---haven't needed one for 50 years.
Again, I appreciate the catch...

 

[BroadwayVa]

I agree with everything you said except that there is any comparison between Mabrey and KLS. KLS is much bigger and better. Otherwise, I totally agree. ND is nowhere near what UConn is. Their defense in particular was so weak in this game. Durr was shooting open shot after open shot.

The only comparison is : KLS/Maybrey shoot 3's. KLS\s defense has been a bit maligned, to say her defense is more than pretty good--is misleading (my words). ND, in the 3rd and 4th qtrs were seriously out of sync, some ND players seemed mentally out of the game. The Final Durr' 3 was as open as any practice shot.
Walz, if not one of the better coaches, is probably the most devious. The beat down of Griner stays in the brain, they did to that Baylor team, what UCF tried to do to UConn---give you any thought??

 

[HoopsFan21]

I’m actually hoping Louisville runs the table up until the matchup with UConn on Feb 12. Right now, I would suggest Louisville has only 2 games between now and then that will test them: a home game vs #13 FSU and on the road vs a good Syracuse team.

As for UConn, I see only one test leading up to the game on 2/12, vs TX on Monday night.

So on 2/12, we could have two undefeated teams ranked #1 & #2 at Gampel on national tv. I can hardly wait.

We have to play South Carolina at their place the week before Louisville. No guarantee that UConn is undefeated when they meet the Cardinals.

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

The only comparison is : KLS/Maybrey shoot 3's. KLS\s defense has been a bit maligned, to say her defense is more than pretty good--is misleading (my words). ND, in the 3rd and 4th qtrs were seriously out of sync, some ND players seemed mentally out of the game. The Final Durr' 3 was as open as any practice shot.
Walz, if not one of the better coaches, is probably the most devious. The beat down of Griner stays in the brain, they did to that Baylor team, what UCF tried to do to UConn---give you any thought??

IMHO, ND was "out of sync" from the opening tip... or maybe even from when they got off the bus when they arrived at the arena. With the exception of the first 2 shots (3 pointers by Mabry and Westbeld) There was no sync the entire game....frankly, IMHO, ND's players did not come to play last night. And, they ran into a Louisville buzz saw that couldn't miss...even a wild out of balance 3 to beat the buzzer. The offense ND showed had minimal, if any, movement; no cuts, no one working to get open, lots of trying to dribble around the problems. Their defense was nearly non existent. The only ND player with any level of energy was Jackie Young...and she played with a face mask. Not sure either team repeats their output of last night...either the high or the low...for the rest of the season.

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

It's not even a fair comparison because ND had Thompson for the UConn game. And of course, Williams and KLS were not 100% when they played ND.

RPI, Sagarin, Massey, strength of schedule. *Everything* else favors UConn.

Completely agree. It's not like Sports Teams are "machines" that perform the same every time they compete. Things happen. Players have good and bad days, players are injured or return from injuries, and so on/so on.
As noted, Lou was not 100% when UConn played ND...1st game back from 4 off due injury = rust... She was supposed to only play 20 minutes (or so). She played 28...and probably would have played 32 -35, except for another ankle issue. Gabby scored 2 points in the entire game, played 0 minutes in second half because of Migraine issues. So, these game to game comparison are of little value. ND was NOT the same team last night that played UConn a few weeks back. UConn is not the same team today that played ND previously, and Louisville was probably not in the same place as a team as it was 3 weeks ago.

I checked Massey projections today, and it still has the same projected Score and MOV in a UCONN / Louisville match-up as it did before the Louisville / ND game last night. I would have expected to see a narrowing of the MOV...but no change.

No one can predict the future with 100% accuracy, but the "computer models" have not changed. I'm expecting a pretty significant contest on Feb 12th... and will of course be rooting for the Huskies. Perhaps this will be a prelude to the National Championship Final...as our President would say... "We'll see what happens."

 

[drweo]

IMHO: Last night, Louisville served notice to the rest of WCBB that they are a serious contender, more serious than many people took them for. Yes, they did it against a depleted ND team that played without spirit or conviction; yes, they did it at home with a raucous, supportive crowd; yes, they had a game that teams dream of but rarely, if ever, achieve. But they still showed that they are a team to be reckoned with. Their next string of games will show how much of last night was lightening striking and how much it was real, lasting power.

UConn will take the 2/12 game seriously (as they do for all games) and has personnel, skills, attitudes, and yes, coaching, that were not in evidence last night from ND. Louisville may or may not be ranked # 2 in the country for that game, but whatever the two teams’ rankings, it will be a major event for both of them and a treat for the rest of us.

Go Huskies!!!

 

[oldude]

We have to play South Carolina at their place the week before Louisville. No guarantee that UConn is undefeated when they meet the Cardinals.

You are correct. For some reason I thought SC was after Louisville. So we have to win 2 big games on the road while Louisville hopefully remains undefeated on the way to a battle of unbeatens on 2/12.

 

[easttexastrash]

I beg to differ, too. It felt like Louisville scored 120, not 100. And the Irish defense was truly horrendous all game long.

Defense wins championships and ND had no defense.

 

[triaddukefan]

I’m actually hoping Louisville runs the table up until the matchup with UConn on Feb 12. Right now, I would suggest Louisville has only 2 games between now and then that will test them: a home game vs #13 FSU and on the road vs a good Syracuse team.

As for UConn, I see only one test leading up to the game on 2/12, vs TX on Monday night.

So on 2/12, we could have two undefeated teams ranked #1 & #2 at Gampel on national tv. I can hardly wait.

Dont overlook UVA...... in terms of a tough game for Louisville before the 12th.

 

[Charliebball]

IMHO: Last night, Louisville served notice to the rest of WCBB that they are a serious contender, more serious than many people took them for. Yes, they did it against a depleted ND team that played without spirit or conviction; yes, they did it at home with a raucous, supportive crowd; yes, they had a game that teams dream of but rarely, if ever, achieve. But they still showed that they are a team to be reckoned with. Their next string of games will show how much of last night was lightening striking and how much it was real, lasting power.

UConn will take the 2/12 game seriously (as they do for all games) and has personnel, skills, attitudes, and yes, coaching, that were not in evidence last night from ND. Louisville may or may not be ranked # 2 in the country for that game, but whatever the two teams’ rankings, it will be a major event for both of them and a treat for the rest of us.

Go Huskies!!!

I fear Miss St more then Louisville...........I thought they would be weakened due to graduations but they have a bunch of athletes on that team and they compete hard and are very physical...........

 

[oldude]

Dont overlook UVA. in terms of a tough game for Louisville before the 12th.

I know UVA has been playing better of late, but they stumbled badly starting the season and it’s difficult to see how they can stay with Louisville.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

I checked Massey projections today, and it still has the same projected Score and MOV in a UCONN / Louisville match-up as it did before the Louisville / ND game last night. I would have expected to see a narrowing of the MOV...but no change.

Sagarin's numbers moved from a 20 point difference to a 14.5 point difference.

 

[CocoHusky]

I bumping this thread because I did not see mentioned anywhere: In the Post game presser for this game Muffet said Louisville is the best team in the country and Asia Durr is the best player.
Really? Did the BY cover this in another thread?
"Best player in the country" takes over

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I bumping this thread because I did not see mentioned anywhere: In the Post game presser for this game Muffet said Louisville is the best team in the country and Asia Durr is the best player.fet
Really? Did the BY cover this in another thread?
"Best player in the country" takes over

Wait. Doesn't Muffet always have the best player in the country? Durr is very very good, but ND was so flat that game they would make lots of good players look very, very good.

 

[JordyG]

I bumping this thread because I did not see mentioned anywhere: In the Post game presser for this game Muffet said Louisville is the best team in the country and Asia Durr is the best player.
Really? Did the BY cover this in another thread?
"Best player in the country" takes over

I guess Jeff is also the best coach in the country as well. Maybe the best team/player/coach in history.

 

[oldude]

I bumping this thread because I did not see mentioned anywhere: In the Post game presser for this game Muffet said Louisville is the best team in the country and Asia Durr is the best player.
Really? Did the BY cover this in another thread?
"Best player in the country" takes over

So I basically gave MM a pass on those remarks, because what was she going to say, the truth?

“We completely got our ass kicked for the entire game by a team that was more athletic, played harder and was better coached than we were”