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Leaving the next year is my life up to a boneyard poll

Stay or go?

  • Stay

    Votes: 90 71.4%

  • Go

    Votes: 36 28.6%
  • Total voters
    126

Leaving the next year is my life up to a boneyard poll​

If this is really true, then I say you become a barefoot nomadic minstrel living on the kindness of strangers. It will give you great context for the rest of your life.


Eliott GIF by Un si grand soleil

"Yeah, this is bad, but it's not as bad as the year I was a barefoot nomadic minstrel!"
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
Ahhh why didn’t I think of going into regular teaching before becoming an administrator. I’ve been teaching for 7 years, plus a two year principal internship. Led health and wellness committee, professional learning committee and created a group of related service and special education teachers to improve equity and fidelity of service provided during remote learning last year.

I’m a special education teacher so unfortunately there aren’t as many teacher leader opportunities to seemlessly between teaching as with gen Ed where you can be a department head, instructional coach, team leader, etc
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You didn’t mention that before
 
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Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
No offense but it’s kind of illogical to think I woke up one day and wanted to be a school administrator without being a teacher
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Should’ve given more background information regarding your resume. Have you tried the assistant principal route with your job pursuits? Maybe getting administrative experience for a year or two at the private school may help. Hate to start losing years toward retirement though.
 
…or an assistant director or director of student services or special education?
 
To me a big factor would be your primary motivation for wanting to be an administrator vs teacher. If you essentially like your current job, and are going into admin for long term advancement ($$), then I would stay put regarding the current offer, and wait for something that was a better overall situation. If you have found that you don't enjoy teaching, and are looking for a career change to get away from something you consider unpleasant, then try a counter offer.

I have a relative that started out teaching, then became a principal and eventually a superintendent. Said he always missed teaching as he rose through the ranks. Also required him and his family to move three of four times over the course of his career in order to go where the opportunities were. He eventually retired on the young side and went back to coaching at a small private school.
 
MTBingNinja said:
Should’ve given more background information regarding your resume. Have you tried the assistant principal route with your job pursuits? Maybe getting administrative experience for a year or two at the private school may help. Hate to start losing years toward retirement though.
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You don't think someone coming from an admin prep program pursued assistant principal jobs? What do you think the 15 interviews were for?

Your advice is pretty lame dude. He asked your thoughts on the two positions. Whether he's done a thorough job during his job search is kind of irrelevant.

Assistant principal jobs are intensely competitive. They are getting 100+ applications in good districts with high pay.
 
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So I called the director (this position would be assistant director) and asked if there was any flexibility on the salary offer. She told me to email the person above her and CC her to see what they can do.
 
If you're considering turning it down, counter offer instead as someone mentioned already. People in general don't do a great job negotiating for their salary. They undoubtedly have a range that they're willing to pay for the position. You have to get near the top of that range, especially if you're not planning on staying long term. There's no downside to asking for more in this case. The worst they can do is say no.
 
To me the big question is how much do the public school board of ed's value private school administration experience. If this makes you a shoo-in after just one years experience over all similar candidates then to me it is worth it. There are substantial differences between goals, policies and student body makeup in private vs public education. For example many private schools have fundraising goals which might be part of the job while public schools don't. Private schools can reject students they don't consider desirable but public schools don't. On the teaching end private school teaching experience will give you a big advantage in competing for a job in public school system if all other things are equal so that part works well for prospective teachers.
 
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Fellow educator and currently in an 092 program as well so this topic is interesting to me. I'd vote stay due to distance and the $$ drop. I moved a couple of years ago and my commute went from 10 min to 30 and I HATE it. It has caused tons of unhappiness that has severely impacted my marriage, my joy in my job (obviously COVID hasn't helped), and I wish I hadn't moved to our "dream" house (not a dream, btw).
 
All these grant jobs popping up too in the educational sector, will throw off a lot of new public school salary jobs from being developed
 
dennismenace said:
To me the big question is how much do the public school board of ed's value private school administration experience. If this makes you a shoo-in after just one years experience over all similar candidates then to me it is worth it. There are substantial differences between goals, policies and student body makeup in private vs public education. For example many private schools have fundraising goals which might be part of the job while public schools don't. Private schools can reject students they don't consider desirable but public schools don't. On the teaching end private school teaching experience will give you a big advantage in competing for a job in public school system if all other things are equal so that part works well for prospective teachers.
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My salary I was offered is probably what a public school pays to send one kid
 
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ucp990411 said:
From someone who has lost a child I would hope you are joking. I would give my entire life's savings to spend another minute with my child.
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yes im dead serious. I hate my kid and hate spending a moment with him. :rolleyes: What is wrong with some of you?!!!
 
I did the 50 minute to a CT rural area job for six months where I got a raise to go. You do not want to do the 50, it's not easy.
 
CL82 said:
Have you looked into the backgrounds of people who currently occupy the positions that you want? Did any of them start out in a private school? Do you have any common acquaintances who can make an introduction so you can get their sense of the value of the position you were looking at?

What happened to the guy before you? If he left for another job where did he go? Any common acquaintances with him?

If you decide that this position isn’t worth a pay cut, or at least as big a pay cut, don’t turn it down, counter offer. Express your interest and enthusiasm in the opportunity but explain that the numbers don’t work for you. If they like you, ther could be movement.
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I voted stay but i vote with this second paragraph more. The vote was a close call but my wife just made a similar move for a far larger pay cut and made it up unexpectedly in a year (over 40k a year pay cut).
 
It seems the real question you need to answer is what your long term goal is and whether or not this position will help you get there.

And, is money or happiness more important, and how do you define happiness? Short commute, more time with family, better salary and potential for higher level responsibilities?

Look at Bob Hurley and compare his career to Dan Hurley. In the end, who will be the happiest? The one with the storied career in high school or the one with a much higher salary? Maybe each is as happy as they could hope to be even if they use differing measuring sticks.

If this job gets you on the path you want, but the 50 minute commute and the salary reduction, for a year, are too much, you may not be sufficiently committed to achieving your goal and should reconsider it. Only you can answer that and it's never easy to answer.
 
only two people can make this decision and that is you and your wife. Talk to her and see how she feels about it.

Not sure about your faith, but I would pray too.

Good luck no matter what you do
 
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