Leaving the next year is my life up to a boneyard poll

[jibsey]

Take the job but things are fluid in teaching. Something better may come up.

 

[husky429]

IMO you ask for 85K or whatever your number is and be willing to walk. Having another job that makes more money already is about as good of a bargaining chip at a new job that you're going to get.

 

[Adios]

Sometimes, families have to struggle for more security.

If your goal is to be involved in school administration, this is a no brainer. How many opportunities are you going to get again to build up a resume? The sooner, the better.

 

[twiceahusky]

This. There is also the union/non-union aspect.

50 min is not impossible though 15k is a hit when you are starting out.

Ask yourself how long it would take you to make that up if all goes according to plan and how the environments and expectations stack up between the two.

Is this a one year detour or a shot in the dark.

One year less towards retirement as a teacher/administrator generally means 2% less for each year that you are retired. So that could be a chunk. You have to ask … will this get you your next job in a public school where you need to be to make $$? Seems many teachers that I know buddy up with administration, get extra experience/responsibilities, and then get a big leg up on future jobs in our school system. Does leaving your current local school system hurt prospects in current system?

 

[ucp990411]

Id give up thousands of dollars in income for 2 extra hours away from my toddler

From someone who has lost a child I would hope you are joking. I would give my entire life's savings to spend another minute with my child.

 

[MTBingNinja]

Go into regular teaching for a year(s), grab some experience and join a lot of committees. Try to head some school initiative programs. Start going up the ladder from there (i.e. department head, etc). If you’re a minority, your chances are even greater to becoming an administrator IMO. You don’t want to start losing years toward your retirement. But with that said, you’re certainly going to grab some great experience at the private school and you might be able to use that experience to grab a public administration job that much sooner.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Go into regular teaching for a year(s), grab some experience and join a lot of committees. Try to head some school initiative programs. Start going up the ladder from there (i.e. department head, etc). If you’re a minority, your chances are even greater to becoming an administrator IMO. You don’t want to start losing years toward your retirement. But with that said, you’re certainly going to grab some great experience at the private school and you might be able to use that experience to grab a public administration job that much sooner.

Ahhh why didn’t I think of going into regular teaching before becoming an administrator. I’ve been teaching for 7 years, plus a two year principal internship. Led health and wellness committee, professional learning committee and created a group of related service and special education teachers to improve equity and fidelity of service provided during remote learning last year.

I’m a special education teacher so unfortunately there aren’t as many teacher leader opportunities to seemlessly between teaching as with gen Ed where you can be a department head, instructional coach, team leader, etc

 

[tzznandrew]

how did none of you Jabronies ask if this was my dream job?

Because you wouldn't be dumb enough to ask the BY if you should take your dream job, regardless of the circumstances.

 

[polycom]

15K less for an insane daily commute. That's going to be a hard no, better jobs will come around.

 

[polycom]

Because you wouldn't be dumb enough to ask the BY if you should take your dream job, regardless of the circumstances.

*We assume...

 

[tzznandrew]

You’re a teacher and your grammar is this lousy? Hmm, weird. Best of luck with whatever you do.

Grammar flexes on internet message boards are about as lame as you can get.

 

[CL82]

Leaving the next year is my life up to a boneyard poll​

If this is really true, then I say you become a barefoot nomadic minstrel living on the kindness of strangers. It will give you great context for the rest of your life.

"Yeah, this is bad, but it's not as bad as the year I was a barefoot nomadic minstrel!"

 

[ZenConn]

No thread is complete without a song reference.

 

[MTBingNinja]

Ahhh why didn’t I think of going into regular teaching before becoming an administrator. I’ve been teaching for 7 years, plus a two year principal internship. Led health and wellness committee, professional learning committee and created a group of related service and special education teachers to improve equity and fidelity of service provided during remote learning last year.

I’m a special education teacher so unfortunately there aren’t as many teacher leader opportunities to seemlessly between teaching as with gen Ed where you can be a department head, instructional coach, team leader, etc

You didn’t mention that before

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

You didn’t mention that before

No offense but it’s kind of illogical to think I woke up one day and wanted to be a school administrator without being a teacher

 

[FairView]

I don't think I'd want my kid to attend a school where administrators sought decision-making help in a sports chat room.

 

[husky429]

I don't think I'd want my kid to attend a school where administrators sought decision-making help in a sports chat room.

Getting insight from as many people as possible is rule #1 of school admin guy

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

I don't think I'd want my kid to attend a school where administrators sought decision-making help in a sports chat room.

This is just a collaborative problem solving jam session

 

[MTBingNinja]

No offense but it’s kind of illogical to think I woke up one day and wanted to be a school administrator without being a teacher

Should’ve given more background information regarding your resume. Have you tried the assistant principal route with your job pursuits? Maybe getting administrative experience for a year or two at the private school may help. Hate to start losing years toward retirement though.

 

[MTBingNinja]

…or an assistant director or director of student services or special education?

 

[mussels]

To me a big factor would be your primary motivation for wanting to be an administrator vs teacher. If you essentially like your current job, and are going into admin for long term advancement ($$), then I would stay put regarding the current offer, and wait for something that was a better overall situation. If you have found that you don't enjoy teaching, and are looking for a career change to get away from something you consider unpleasant, then try a counter offer.

I have a relative that started out teaching, then became a principal and eventually a superintendent. Said he always missed teaching as he rose through the ranks. Also required him and his family to move three of four times over the course of his career in order to go where the opportunities were. He eventually retired on the young side and went back to coaching at a small private school.

 

[husky429]

Should’ve given more background information regarding your resume. Have you tried the assistant principal route with your job pursuits? Maybe getting administrative experience for a year or two at the private school may help. Hate to start losing years toward retirement though.

You don't think someone coming from an admin prep program pursued assistant principal jobs? What do you think the 15 interviews were for?

Your advice is pretty lame dude. He asked your thoughts on the two positions. Whether he's done a thorough job during his job search is kind of irrelevant.

Assistant principal jobs are intensely competitive. They are getting 100+ applications in good districts with high pay.

 

[CL82]

Your advice is pretty lame dude.

Well that was unusually candid, even for The Boneyard

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

…or an assistant director or director of student services or special education?

Yes

 

[husky429]

Well that was unusually candid, even for The Boneyard

Call it like I see it