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Exit 4 said:
I have been quiet long enough.

Lets face it. Uconn staff smelled a prima donna who didnt want to compete. Instead of risking it all on someone who might flake, they wanted a worthy alternative. And who can blame Coach P for wanting another QB. This team cannot afford to slowly sink via underperforming QB play as we have since Danny O. We need options. We need QBs who want to compete. No prospect should ever threaten a school that they dont want competition. Life is full of comp, if you dont like it, shut your lip and look elsewhere, but dont tell the media, dont voice it in twitter, just look for another school - try I-AA.

Lagow only has himself to blame.
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As far as I know all the UConn coaches knew was that they needed a 2 QB class, and wanted the best QBs they could get. But Lagow's reaction does suggest that he expected to be coming into a situation where he would have minimal competition and when that situation changed, regretted his commitment to UConn. Of course he will face competition wherever he goes, and competition is good for him in the long run, so this is a puzzling reaction, but he's a young kid with an apparently strong-willed Dad, so I hope the coaches don't hold it against him.

The fiasco certainly doesn't make Lagow look good to other college coaches, so I wonder what opportunities he will have. If he does come to UConn still, hopefully the experience will have been a maturing one for him and he'll be ready to face the competitive nature of high-level football with humility and enthusiasm, and support for his teammates including the ones at his own position.
 
LOL, so silly. I only lectured with a few sentences. What were you saying about being melodramatic?
 
Exit 4 said:
I have been quiet long enough.

Lets face it. Uconn staff smelled a prima donna who didnt want to compete. Instead of risking it all on someone who might flake, they wanted a worthy alternative. And who can blame Coach P for wanting another QB. This team cannot afford to slowly sink via underperforming QB play as we have since Danny O. We need options. We need QBs who want to compete. No prospect should ever threaten a school that they dont want competition. Life is full of comp, if you dont like it, shut your lip and look elsewhere, but dont tell the media, dont voice it in twitter, just look for another school - try I-AA.

Lagow only has himself to blame.
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Perhaps you should have stayed quiet.

No school recruits 2 similarly rated QB's in the same class without very extenuating circumstances where each wants a particular school regardless. That is a very rare occurance. Whether the Lagow's knew about Boyle's recruitment 6 months ago or not is irrelevant.

Once Boyle's commitment became public, it was reasonable for them to reassess the situation. It has nothing to do with competition.

The fact that Day keeps telling everyone Boyle was his #1 target only gives the Lagows more reason to look around first.

The rest of the nonsense around signing day, his twitter account, etc is responding to internet craziness that ought not have been responded to in the first place.

There is a time information is ready for public consumption and a time when it isn't. Our fandom does not entitle us to live updates on the deliberations of an 18 yr old and his family.

As I said before, I'd like to see him play here. If he likes the school he should sign and not let his Dad's concerns stop him. Ultimately, it should be Richard's call. If he goes somewhere else, I won't be agonizing over it like some lovelorn teenager.


Lovelorn teenagers aside, this is yet another milestone in UConn program history. Thousands of posts about FB recruiting in the middle of BB season.

Hopefully we don't go full SEC nuts when it comes to these recruiting dramas.

PP will have to answer to the Texas HS FB community about what happened. It's just good politics.

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pj said:
As far as I know all the UConn coaches knew was that they needed a 2 QB class, and wanted the best QBs they could get. But Lagow's reaction does suggest that he expected to be coming into a situation where he would have minimal competition and when that situation changed, regretted his commitment to UConn. Of course he will face competition wherever he goes, and competition is good for him in the long run, so this is a puzzling reaction, but he's a young kid with an apparently strong-willed Dad, so I hope the coaches don't hold it against him.
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They don't regret the commitment. But they do wish they were more proactive at looking at other schools. That's how much Richard Lagow liked UConn.
 
pj said:
As far as I know all the UConn coaches knew was that they needed a 2 QB class, and wanted the best QBs they could get. But Lagow's reaction does suggest that he expected to be coming into a situation where he would have minimal competition and when that situation changed, regretted his commitment to UConn. Of course he will face competition wherever he goes, and competition is good for him in the long run, so this is a puzzling reaction, but he's a young kid with an apparently strong-willed Dad, so I hope the coaches don't hold it against him.

The fiasco certainly doesn't make Lagow look good to other college coaches, so I wonder what opportunities he will have. If he does come to UConn still, hopefully the experience will have been a maturing one for him and he'll be ready to face the competitive experience with humility and eagerness.
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Not for nothing, but how can you post this and then say that the Texas HS football coaches will hold this against UConn?
 
SubbaBub said:
No school recruits 2 similarly rated QB's in the same class without very extenuating circumstances where each wants a particular school regardless. That a very rare occurance. Whether the Lagow's knew about Boyle's recruitment 6 months ago or not is irrelevant.

Once Boyle's commitment became public, it was reasonable for them to reassess the situation. It has nothing to do with competition.
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SubbaBub, you're just wrong about this. I answered it here: http://the-boneyard.com/threads/lagow-offer-status.33390/#post-498497:

pj said:
Top schools bring in two highly rated QBs all the time. Sometimes one is lower rated, but again, stars are not totally trustworthy. If Bama is bringing a guy in, they believe he has potential to become a starter.

Just looking around the SEC this year and using 247 composite ratings:

Connecticut Tim Boyle PRO 0.8625; (Richard Lagow PRO 0.8272); Kivon Taylor ATH 0.7000 (unrated everywhere)

Alabama Cooper Bateman PRO 0.9623; Parker McLeod PRO 0.8435
Arkansas Austin Allen PRO 0.8950; Damon Mitchell DUAL 0.8333
Auburn Jeremy Johnson PRO 0.9273 ... prior year had 2 QBs 0.8982 and 0.8634
Florida Max Staver PRO 0.8472
Georgia Bruce Ramsay PRO 0.9518
Kentucky Reese Phillips PRO 0.7991
LSU Hayden Rettig PRO 0.9311; Anthony Jennings PRO 0.9135
Mississippi Ryan Buchanan PRO 0.9005; Devonte Kincaid DUAL 0.8894
Miss St Cord Sandberg DUAL 0.9071; Damian Williams DUAL 0.8218
Missouri Trent Hosick DUAL 0.8841; Eddie Printz PRO 0.8609
South Carolina Connor Mitch PRO 0.8866 ... prior year had 2 QBs 0.8731 and unrated
Tennessee Joshua Dobbs PRO 0.9276; Riley Ferguson PRO 0.8741
Texas A&M Kohl Steward PRO 0.9267; Kenny Hill DUAL 0.9090
Vanderbilt Johnathan McCrary DUAL 0.8839; Chad Kanoff PRO 0.8647

Out of 14 SEC teams, 8 had 2 QBs with both QBs rated higher than Rich Lagow; 1 had 2 QBs with the second QB rated only a whisker lower than Rich Lagow; 2 had 1 highly rated QB a year after taking 2 QBs; 3 had 1 QB in each of the last two years, but with the exception of Kentucky this year, all were rated higher than Rich Lagow.

It is certainly not abnormal in high-level college football to have a class with two highly rated QBs, even if they are both PRO style QBs.

Given UConn's situation where QBs from early classes have transferred or failed to develop and the roster is short of scholarship QBs, it's entirely appropriate for UConn to seek a 2 QB class, and to seek the highest rated QBs they can obtain.
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It looks like the Lagows thought they would be coming into a unique situation with minimal competition for a multi-year role as the starting QB. When the competitive environment normalized, they wanted to reconsider.

If that's the case, they were basing their decision on the wrong criteria. It should have been school/education, coaches, facilities, competitiveness, opportunity to develop as a QB and as a young man. Competition doesn't hurt that opportunity, generally it helps. It's best to be exposed to the highest level of competition you can.

Again, I hope Lagow ends up at UConn and decides that it is the best spot for him to develop as a QB and a person. But I hope he also respects UConn's goal to become an elite football program, and therefore its need to recruit competitors at every position and maintain a normal number of scholarship players at every position.
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
Not for nothing, but how can you post this and then say that the Texas HS football coaches will hold this against UConn?
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Most outsiders assume there's two sides to every breakup, and that there were probably mistakes or flaws on both sides. It's natural to have more sympathy for a local kid than for a distant school.
 
pj said:
SubbaBub, you're just wrong about this. I answered it here: http://the-boneyard.com/threads/lagow-offer-status.33390/#post-498497:



It looks like the Lagows thought they would be coming into a unique situation with minimal competition for a multi-year role as the starting QB. When the competitive environment normalized, they wanted to reconsider.

If that's the case, they were basing their decision on the wrong criteria. It should have been school/education, coaches, facilities, competitiveness, opportunity to develop as a QB and as a young man. Competition doesn't hurt that opportunity, generally it helps. It's best to be exposed to the highest level of competition you can.

Again, I hope Lagow ends up at UConn and decides that it is the best spot for him to develop as a QB and a person. But I hope he also respects UConn's goal to become an elite football program, and therefore its need to recruit competitors at every position and maintain a normal number of scholarship players at every position.
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As you'll find in my response. Your verdict isn't as strong as you think. It's rare and almost unheard of in the lower BCS ranks.

LSU is the only comparable in your list and UConn is not LSU.

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Exit 4 said:
Blah, blah, blah. We're fans on this site, not university administrators.
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Being a fan is hardly an excuse to not act like a decent grown up. You are not engaged in silly internet chatter among anonymous posters -- you are jumping on a 19 year old who may have had his life take a serious adverse turn when you can't possibly know the facts involved.

Leave the kid and the family alone. They are not anonymous in this -- they actually have something real invested in the situation.
 
If Lagow thought he was going to be the only QB taken, and it appears that is the case, the question is. WHY? His dad has been through this process before. The family doesn't come off as naive and/or uneducated. I think it's fair to believe that if he thought he was going to be the only QB taken, it's because that's what he was told. And I believe he had a fair amount of trust established with the staff to believe that promise would be honored. I don't see any reason to believe he just assumed he would be the only QB taken, or that the topic was never discussed with the coaches. Especially from a kid who committed as early as he did, playing where he plays, with the chance to earn more offers.

There is a difference between not wanting to compete, and not trusting the people who pick the starters after you've had your trust betrayed. Who told him he'd be the only QB taken? If it was Pasqualoni or Day, then can he really trust the head coach or his position coach? If not, why should he think he'll get a fair chance to compete to start? If it was GDL, then the staff has an out because that situation has changed. Who said what to this kid to make him question the staff's commitment to him? Until we know those answers, we don't know and should STFU with the prima donna comments.

I think based on his comments, reaction, and what we know about his commitment and when it took place that he was made promises that were broken. But the family has too much class (or too much common sense) to call out the people who may have misled him since there is still the possibility he ends up playing for him/them.
 
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Who said what to whom and when is only relevant to the future reputations of the parties involved.

All that matters right now is we have 1 local QB signed that the staff seems happy with and another QB, that the fanbase has been pretty excited about for a year, with a presumably still valid scholarship offer trying to decide if he wants to come aboard the USS Connecticut.

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WingU-Conn said:
But the family has too much class (or too much common sense) to call out the people who may have misled him since there is still the possibility he ends up playing for him/them.
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Very true. His father is a very nice man.
 
WingU-Conn said:
If Lagow thought he was going to be the only QB taken, and it appears that is the case, the question is. WHY? His dad has been through this process before. The family doesn't come off as naive and/or uneducated. I think it's fair to believe that if he thought he was going to be the only QB taken, it's because that's what he was told. And I believe he had a fair amount of trust established with the staff to believe that promise would be honored. I don't see any reason to believe he just assumed he would be the only QB taken, or that the topic was never discussed with the coaches. Especially from a kid who committed as early as he did, playing where he plays, with the chance to earn more offers.

There is a difference between not wanting to compete, and not trusting the people who pick the starters after you've had your trust betrayed. Who told him he'd be the only QB taken? If it was Pasqualoni or Day, then can he really trust the head coach or his position coach? If not, why should he think he'll get a fair chance to compete to start? If it was GDL, then the staff has an out because that situation has changed. Who said what to this kid to make him question the staff's commitment to him? Until we know those answers, we don't know and should STFU with the prima donna comments.

I think based on his comments, reaction, and what we know about his commitment and when it took place that he was made promises that were broken. But the family has too much class (or too much common sense) to call out the people who may have misled him since there is still the possibility he ends up playing for him/them.
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We don't need to try and place blame here. People need to realize it is the nature of recruitment, this stuff happens more than you think. Historically it hasn't happened to UCONN recruits because they have never had options or other more legit offers like our class did this year. But lets not just immediately start blaming the staff for this. Like you said we don't know on RL's side. So don't act like we know on our coaching staff's side. HCPP might have his issues with on the field coaching but from my account his recruiting reputation is impeccably clean. I doubt he would coerce a kid into believing he was the only one and then drop the hammer on him two weeks before signing day. Communication might have been lost, there was coaching changes but what it comes down to in recruiting is the UCONN needs to whats best for the program and make difficult decisions and RL and fam needs to do whats best for him and his future and make difficult decisions. Plain and simple. And sometimes this leads to friction and it doesn't always work out. But the blaming game is as pointless as a broken pencil. Can't wait for this saga to be over.......Even if I still check up here to see if he has signed.
 
WingU-Conn said:
If Lagow thought he was going to be the only QB taken, and it appears that is the case, the question is. WHY? Lagow stated last week that he knew there would be 2 QB's in this class since the summer. His dad has been through this process before. The family doesn't come off as naive and/or uneducated. I think it's fair to believe that if he thought he was going to be the only QB taken, it's because that's what he was told. And I believe he had a fair amount of trust established with the staff to believe that promise would be honored. I don't see any reason to believe he just assumed he would be the only QB taken, or that the topic was never discussed with the coaches. Especially from a kid who committed as early as he did, playing where he plays, with the chance to earn more offers.

There is a difference between not wanting to compete, and not trusting the people who pick the starters after you've had your trust betrayed. Who told him he'd be the only QB taken? If it was Pasqualoni or Day, then can he really trust the head coach or his position coach? If not, why should he think he'll get a fair chance to compete to start? If it was GDL, then the staff has an out because that situation has changed. Who said what to this kid to make him question the staff's commitment to him? Until we know those answers, we don't know and should STFU with the prima donna comments.

I think based on his comments, reaction, and what we know about his commitment and when it took place that he was made promises that were broken. But the family has too much class (or too much common sense) to call out the people who may have misled him since there is still the possibility he ends up playing for him/them. Did you read his father's posts in the days leading up to Signing Day? I have to assume you did not. You are smarter than this.
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Butch said:
People do change.
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So apparently, it's ok to insinuate that our current coaching staff lacks integrity, but Lagow's family.....they are off limits. You're unbelievable. Call his dad and grovel some more. This fanbase can be embarassing at times.
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
So apparently, it's ok to insinuate that our current coaching staff lacks integrity, but Lagow's family.....they are off limits. You're unbelievable. Call his dad and grovel some more. This fanbase can embarassing at times.
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Go suck on a pacifier. His father has been very good to me. And he has nothing to gain from me.
 
Butch said:
People do change.
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Are you kidding me? Listen I am not on either side here like I stated previously. BUT the guy is approaching 70 years old, he is far gone from the days of establishing his recruiting morals and values. Step back a minute and check out reality. And you say, Lagows father who i gather you don't know in the least bit personally, has "been very good to you", what has HCPP done to you???? Ill state that it's laughable if you take him not succeeding at his job personally..........
 
kcc1442 said:
Are you kidding me? Listen I am not on either side here like I stated previously. BUT the guy is approaching 70 years old, he is far gone from the days of establishing his recruiting morals and values. Step back a minute and check out reality. And you say, Lagows father who i gather you don't know in the least bit personally, has "been very good to you", what has HCPP done to you???? Ill state that it's laughable if you take him not succeeding at his job personally..........
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Just recruiting approach in this scenario, that's all. I know he did very well recruiting in-state. Phenomenal job. No one is disagreeing about that.
 
kcc1442 said:
Are you kidding me? Listen I am not on either side here like I stated previously. BUT the guy is approaching 70 years old, he is far gone from the days of establishing his recruiting morals and values. Step back a minute and check out reality. And you say, Lagows father who i gather you don't know in the least bit personally, has "been very good to you", what has HCPP done to you???? Ill state that it's laughable if you take him not succeeding at his job personally..........
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So pathetic. Butchy is star struck by Lagow's father. So it's ok to call into question our current head coach's integrity and post publicly about it.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
So pathetic. Butchy is star struck by Lagow's father. So it's ok to call into question our current head coach's integrity.
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I've been around many people much bigger than him. Maybe you should cuddle up with Matt and watch soaps.
 
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Butch said:
People do change.
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You ever stop to think about this. Let's say White told him he was going to be the only Qb recruit. He has since left, now let's say the staff is concerned over Whitmer's concussions. Circumstances do change and the coaches have a program to run. You can't let the feelings of any single recruit get in the way of running your program.
 
noeynox said:
You ever stop to think about this. Let's say White told him he was going to be the only Qb recruit. He has since left, now let's say the staff is concerned over Whitmer's concussions. Circumstances do change and the coaches have a program to run. You can't let the feelings of any single recruit get in the way of running your program.
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They do not think they are above the program and still want to come to Connecticut. They do have to look out for themselves. Who in their right mind wouldn't?
 
The other thing I'll add is the dad posted he felt UConn should be taking a JUCO as the second qb. Nothing against him, but how anyone could defend the position of anyone who thinks they can suggest what the coaching staff should be doing or whom they should be offering is beyond me. Best of luck to Richard where ever he winds up.
 
noeynox said:
The other thing I'll add is the dad posted he felt UConn should be taking a JUCO as the second qb. Nothing against him, but how anyone could defend the position of anyone who thinks they can suggest what the coaching staff should be doing or whom they should be offering is beyond me. Best of luck to Richard where ever he winds up.
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As said before, from my understanding, it's all about trust. Nothing else. At least now. They really want to come here.
 
if I remember Mr. Lagow's responses, he claimed that a member of the coaching staff WHO IS NOT THERE ANY LONGER lied to them. I would assume it's Clayton White no? I believe it was White who was leading the charge to bring in Lagow and he is no longer here.
Perhaps White made promises to Lagow that are no longer valid and that's why they're second-guessing everything.
 
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