What horse is that exactly?
And I guess that is why we have contracts and related processes to enforce them. Simple, you terminate the contract prior to the expiration and short of any gross violations or misconduct and you'll owe me the balance. These kind of contracts have nothing to do with if someone deserves the balance or not. These were offenses however no gross violations or misconduct. The NCAA hasn't even given their determination to solidify their investigation yet. If it were that cut and dry then you wouldn't need lawyers other than to draw up bullet clad contracts in these situations.
Neither do I. There are plenty of contract snippets of JC's and KO's contracts on the thread that support the referenced comments.
@CL82 Noting the departed coach's contract linked again in your preceding message, its' existence and language considered justifying "just cause" for dismissal are different topics than the topics/questions previously raised. Specifically, the possible existence and potential impact of the following:
The contract has zero tolerance language in it. Ollie certifies NCAA compliance annually.
No kidding the contract states or minimally implies zero tolerance. Again, I asked about potential relevant supporting meeting notes, follow up emails, etc. Above and beyond the contract's lingo, such written documentation might (or perhaps not) be a potential relevant differentiator post-NCAA APR concerns compared with prior or current coaches' contracts, contract discussions, etc. Likewise, written versus verbal annual NCAA compliance sign-off, alleged misrepresentation of facts, etc.
Everyone is aware of K.O.s contribution? Really? but continue to beat a dead horse about his last 2 years as head coach and how much is sucks despite us having a new Head Coach. There are not many folks on this board talking about or acknowledging any of this man's contributions to our school. How much do you think a man can take? K.O. didn't fire himself or knowingly break his own contract. K.O. is not solely responsible for an environment of mistrust with some of his staff and his prior coach and mentor. K.O. doesn't have to guess about the conversations and assurances that were made between the Administration and himself. He doesn't have to figure out who was saying this and who was saying that, speaking to whom behind his back. It's all out now; he knows. He has put the picture together over the last 4 years. Adversity brings the darkness out of people and he now knows the truth. Sure when it comes down to it JC is going to protect his legacy like anyone would.
I have been married to a woman of color for 41 years, together for 44. I know what racism is. And I see absolutely no evidence of it in the treatment of KO.
You don’t have to see it. It’s a card to be played when you have similar behavior by different coaches with a clear difference in treatment for those situations. Disputes over money brings the darkness out. If there is data to support a different outcome for prior coaches at UCONN that where white than the outcome for a similar situation with coach Ollie then the card can legitimately be played specifically if there is no other reason that can be found to justify this different outcome for Coach Ollie. It’s that simple. Matter of fact it would not surprise me if there are examples of UCONN settling and providing buyouts of contracts for prior coaches that happen to be white with no prior UCONN ties or contributions with a similar or greater level of alleged transgressions.
While I get it concerning this as a legal strategy, there is no way I am buying into the idea that any of this has to do with him being black, white , an Eskimo or a man from Mars. It has to do with Uconn not wanting to pay him, and were it a white guy, they would not want to pay him either. I'm sure this is the lawyers idea ( well pretty sure) and
The NCAA isn't allowed to dismiss Ollie at all. It isn't a party to the employment contract. The language absolutely means that if Ollie violates any law, rule, regulation, policy or university's official interpretation it is grounds for a just cause under the contract.
Not sure I understand the question, but agree arbitration will occur if demanded.
Fair point, but that presumes that KO's max salary is $300K, which may or may not be true. The comparison to $10M is a false one because he was unlikely to get the full amount but that may well have been his thinking. The thing is, his best chance to get cash in hand was earlier on so UConn and he could have a shared narrative that worked for everyone. I'm not sure why that didn't happen. We will probably will never know.
Who knows what they are really saying behind closed doors. Clearly something was said. Clearly conversations were occurring to secure Hurley while this man was still coaching and other assurances being made. Not all discrimination is intentional or conscious and without explicit evidence reasonable people would need to determine simply if there were similar or worse transgressions by prior UCONN coaches and there were related buyouts for them then why not for Kevin Ollie. That is the question and of course no one outside of the school knows the detail of this with prior coaches in similar situations because it was settled quietly.
Clearly not an ideal tactic and will breed all kinds of resentment with the public. They may well have been doing all the things you said behind Ollies back while he was still coaching. I would be surprised if they were not, but I find it hard to believe that anyones race factors into this. But yes, crying racial discrimination is a tactic now days and can backfire. I guess we just all have to wait and see.