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upstater said:
My problem with all this is that I believe it is severely damaging for this to happen again. You were better off not talking to them at all.

At this point I blame the administrators on up to the President of UConn. I know they are desperate, but when asked, "Will you make a pitch to our Presidents?" the administrators should have required the legwork be done by Yormark beforehand.

They are not competing currently with any other school. It is a Yes or No, but instead we're treated to Emperor Nero with a thumbs up or thumbs down based on how much the crowd is booing or roaring in approval.
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It was reported that Benedict and Toscano made a presentation to the AD's, not to the Presidents.

It's unfortunate that this was leaked by UConn guys. Especially saying that it's a done deal. Would it have made the national press if it hadn't been leaked by the UConn guys?
 
jostar1 said:
Well the new information is that media consultants are going to make a presentation to the Big 12 AD's and Presidents. I think this is a good thing. As someone else posted a few days ago, it seems like something has changed with ESPN. That they want UConn in their inventory. There is also the growth in popularity of women's basketball. Also the market size, which would be the largest in the Big 12.
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WBB may be more desirable than Big 12 football?
 
JMick said:
If nothing else it's obvious some schools hate us for whatever reason that I don't quite understand.
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GoKU said:
The media numbers will decide. If the presidents think UConn adds to the next media deal, they'll have the votes.
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The problem is currently UConn football is bad. It is quite possible UConn football could average around .500 team record by 2031 and be okay. Deciding how you evaluate future UConn football value will decide if you add UConn right now since UConn plans to get a full share as of 2031.
 
GoKU said:
The media numbers will decide. If the presidents think UConn adds to the next media deal, they'll have the votes.
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The meeting today with the media consultants is critically important. I have to imagine Yormark likes the results of whatever they are planning to present to the ADs/Presidents if he’s letting this meeting go forward, you don’t gather these people together (especially at this point in the calendar) if you are planning to show them something that isn’t additive or slated to improve their current position over time
 
JMick said:
If nothing else it's obvious some schools hate us for whatever reason that I don't quite understand.
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I would phrase it as resentment, not hatred and I have a firm belief that our success from 2007-2010, along with sone comments by the only two within the school who had the ability to speak for the football program (Edsall & Hathaway) bothered quite a few schools and their fan bases.

Many saw us as a school that really didn't give a s#!t about football until we were guaranteed a spot in a then New Years day bowl conference. Edsall and Hathaway viewed bragging about having access to one of the major bowls (which many schools that had been playing competitive football for many decades did not have) as a good thing.

That we won our conference (while losing to the two worst teams in the conference, and a non-conference game to a mediocre at best Temple squad) irritated enough people that within our conference other schools were publicly lobbying to change the rules so that West Virginia could go instead of us, the committes conspired to send us to the worst possible destination for us and the narrative from shortly before that game until years afterward was that we did not belong.

We were painted as an entitled school/fan base that needed the guarantee of a reward in order to be willing to provide an effort. Sadly, beginning with Hathaway's decisions shortly after Edsall left, we've done very little to change the opinions of anyone on the outside.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
That we won our conference (while losing to the two worst teams in the conference, and a non-conference game to a mediocre at best Temple squad) irritated enough people that within our conference other schools were publicly lobbying to change the rules so that West Virginia could go instead of us, the committes conspired to send us to the worst possible destination for us and the narrative from shortly before that game until years afterward was that we did not belong.
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are you referring to the Fiesta Bowl?

Because the reason the committee sent us there is we won the tiebreaker.
 
BlueMAB said:
are you referring to the Fiesta Bowl?

Because the reason the committee sent us there is we won the tiebreaker.
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Technically the conference, not the committee selected us (due to tiebreaker rules) and the BCS committee somehow found it in their hearts to send us to the Fiesta Bowl (while sending Kansas to the Orange Bowl).

The matchup with Oklahoma was intentional as OU wasn't going to allow a repeat of the Boise St game. The market was flooded with discounted tickets (due to Auburn being selected for the title game and the then rules requiring fans to buy tickets for both events at the venue), allowing part of the narrative being "UConn couldn't sell their allotment".

With anyone else, the effort would have been to do what would have been best for all participants. That year the effort was to make it as difficult for us as possible.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I would phrase it as resentment, not hatred and I have a firm belief that our success from 2007-2010, along with sone comments by the only two within the school who had the ability to speak for the football program (Edsall & Hathaway) bothered quite a few schools and their fan bases.

Many saw us as a school that really didn't give a s#!t about football until we were guaranteed a spot in a then New Years day bowl conference. Edsall and Hathaway viewed bragging about having access to one of the major bowls (which many schools that had been playing competitive football for many decades did not have) as a good thing.

That we won our conference (while losing to the two worst teams in the conference, and a non-conference game to a mediocre at best Temple squad) irritated enough people that within our conference other schools were publicly lobbying to change the rules so that West Virginia could go instead of us, the committes conspired to send us to the worst possible destination for us and the narrative from shortly before that game until years afterward was that we did not belong.

We were painted as an entitled school/fan base that needed the guarantee of a reward in order to be willing to provide an effort. Sadly, beginning with Hathaway's decisions shortly after Edsall left, we've done very little to change the opinions of anyone on the outside.
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I think the issue with UConn there is a lot of fair weather fans. When both Kansas and Iowa state were terrible they still had very good attendance for football games. UConn has to be good to get a decent crowd to come to games. Part of the reason is a lot of UConn football attendance is from nonUConn graduates that are looking for NFL experience without paying NFL ticket prices. Also CT is a professional football state with three teams less than 2 hours from anywhere from CT. Add in Fairfield county is really just a suburb of NYC with a population that could care less about college football (similar to NYC and Boston markets) makes it hard for UConn football to draw large attendance for football games.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
The matchup with Oklahoma was intentional as OU wasn't going to allow a repeat of the Boise St game. The market was flooded with discounted tickets (due to Auburn being selected for the title game and the then rules requiring fans to buy tickets for both events at the venue), allowing part of the narrative being "UConn couldn't sell their allotment".
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Of course, the fact that's never talked about is Oklahoma didn't sell out its allotment either that year. I guess they're not fit to be a basketball power either.

(The reason had to do with the way ticket sales were set up, which effectively flooded the secondary market cheap tickets. IYKYK)
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I would phrase it as resentment, not hatred and I have a firm belief that our success from 2007-2010, along with sone comments by the only two within the school who had the ability to speak for the football program (Edsall & Hathaway) bothered quite a few schools and their fan bases.

Many saw us as a school that really didn't give a s#!t about football until we were guaranteed a spot in a then New Years day bowl conference. Edsall and Hathaway viewed bragging about having access to one of the major bowls (which many schools that had been playing competitive football for many decades did not have) as a good thing.

That we won our conference (while losing to the two worst teams in the conference, and a non-conference game to a mediocre at best Temple squad) irritated enough people that within our conference other schools were publicly lobbying to change the rules so that West Virginia could go instead of us, the committes conspired to send us to the worst possible destination for us and the narrative from shortly before that game until years afterward was that we did not belong.

We were painted as an entitled school/fan base that needed the guarantee of a reward in order to be willing to provide an effort. Sadly, beginning with Hathaway's decisions shortly after Edsall left, we've done very little to change the opinions of anyone on the outside.
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They don't resent us. They don't think much about us at all. People are overthinking this. It's no different than it was with the ACC.

Culturally, do we have a lot of Frats and Sororities, with game day traditions? Do we have any game day traditions for football? Do the people of Connecticut hold weddings on Saturdays in the fall? Do our HS teams still play on Saturday instead of Friday night? That what that does to our audience? Every CT HS football player and their family is often unavailable to attend or even watch our games on TV.

They know how we feel about college basketball, and I think that garners some respect. They want to see that we feel that way about football. They want us to be all-in. We say "add us and we will be", but that's a tough sell. I think the ramp-up proposal is to allow us to build what is needed, culture, not facilities. TCU and Baylor play in 45k stadiums. So does BC. KState is 50k. Colorado 50k. Houston 40k. KU's new stadium is getting smaller from 47k.
 
CL82 said:
Of course, the fact that's never talked about is Oklahoma didn't sell out its allotment either that year. I guess they're not fit to be a basketball power either.

(The reason had to do with the way ticket sales were set up, which effectively flooded the secondary market cheap tickets. IYKYK)
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This was at the same time ESPN was pushing for a Playoff...hard. They used us as reason #1 why the Bowl Championship Series was "Broken". We were the scapegoat so that they could "fix" the problem and line their pockets. Not saying the playoffs weren't needed, just that we didn't need to be singled out, we should have been celebrated as the plucky underdogs instead of the reason why College Football was broken.
 
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