Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[How Sway?!]

On what universe is Cal more desirable than UConn? We could beat their football team now, like this year.

They're in California and we're not. Simple as.

 

[businesslawyer]

So how about UCONN and Stanford to B1G to make it even 20?

There is absolutely no way UConn would be accretive to the Big Ten based on the amount per school it is currently paying out. Under any theory. They can wait for the ACC to blow up and look at the prize jewels from there (and the prize jewels are all worth more financially than UConn).

 

[Rico444]

On what universe is Cal more desirable than UConn? We could beat their football team now, like this year.

I get that their academic profile is fantastic, but does the Big XII really care about that? They bring zero sports value.

 

[NC_Uconn_Fan]

We are still the 2023 NCAA MBBall Champs!!

 

[businesslawyer]

They're in California and we're not. Simple as.

So is Sacramento State. They don't have a fanbase that watches them, and they don't value athletics highly enough to really care about winning.

 

[CL82]

There is absolutely no way UConn would be accretive to the Big Ten based on the amount per school it is currently paying out. Under any theory. They can wait for the ACC to blow up and look at the prize jewels from there (and the prize jewels are all worth more financially than UConn).

... with the truth.

 

[ZooCougar]

I see GoKU as like some of the people who were in the know back during the ACC/Maryland debacle.

Some people have inside info but the situation is fluid and information changes.

 

[ctchamps]

I don't think they want Pacific time zone unless it's a huge upgrade to football (and those two just went to the B1G).

Most likely scenario now is a split among Big XII Presidents and the AD on who the best 2 of the available 3 would be. We know they approved Arizona. There probably is not yet consensus on UConn, ASU and Utah. I'd imagine all three configurations might be favored by some schools. We know Yormark would want UConn, but he doesn't get a vote. However, he probably has a lot of credibility right now. Is it enough?

I trust the other Hawk guy more than you about this. UConn is in. The remaining two just changed either the onset of the Oregon and Washington announcement.

 

[Rewster]

It would have made far more sense to question why folks here were assuming he actually knew anything. As opposed to attacking someone whose motivation may or may not be good.

Easier to talk to one person

 

[ihatepants]

On what universe is Cal more desirable than UConn? We could beat their football team now, like this year.

Because our football program is historically bad. I had posted about UConn's plight outside of our UConn fan echo chamber and that was the gist of it. Our football team is considered "closer to FCS level than even middling G5 level" and that it is our school's fault for "being so bad in the 2010s that they were considering almost dropping football completely." One okayish year does not change that perception.

 

[NH Husky]

There is absolutely no way UConn would be accretive to the Big Ten based on the amount per school it is currently paying out. Under any theory. They can wait for the ACC to blow up and look at the prize jewels from there (and the prize jewels are all worth more financially than UConn).

But UW and OR are accretive prize jewels of a conference that just negotiated $20m per school? Your theory is they are worthy. I see.

 

[GG]

I trust the other Hawk guy more than you about this. UConn is in. The remaining two just changed either the onset of the Oregon and Washington announcement.

Who is the other hawk guy?

 

[businesslawyer]

But UW and OR are accretive prize jewels of a conference that just negotiated $20m per school? Your theory is they are worthy. I see.

I don't think you can explain UW and OR being invited, even at a lower compensation rate, other than the Big Ten's historical relationship with the Pac.

 

[ctchamps]

Would they? What would CBS pay for a 64 team tournament composed of all 64 P3 teams?

Probably less but the amount would still be greater to those schools then they receive now and most likely significantly greater. That’s the calculation Yormark is working with.

And the media entities working with him have calculated it’s more profitable for them as well and indicated this to him when they backed his vision.

The statement by C9C9 if he is a reliable source indicated we are considered the number 1 bb brand in the number 2 sport.

UConn is to basketball what Alabama is to football.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Because our football program is historically bad. I had posted about UConn's plight outside of our UConn fan echo chamber and that was the gist of it. Our football team is considered "closer to FCS level than even middling G5 level" and that it is our school's fault for "being so bad in the 2010s that they were considering almost dropping football completely." One okayish year does not change that perception.

Gonna disagree with you on the historically bad. We had a bad 10 years stretch, but we are hardly historically bad.

 

[ctchamps]

Who is the other hawk guy?

GoKU. Kansas Jayhawks. HuskyHawk went to both UConn and KU.

 

[Jimbo]

one would think that with the big ten going to 18, SEC and B12 would try to follow suit, but who knows.

Hey, if the SEC really wants to rankle those other conferences by grabbing a piece of the Northeast, I have a school I could recommend.

 

[Vowelguy]

So is Sacramento State. They don't have a fanbase that watches them, and they don't value athletics highly enough to really care about winning.

They are the flagship university for the largest state in the union, second best recruiting territory, and home to two top 10 markets. Im not saying they are royalty, but they’re not dregs either.

 

[ctchamps]

It's amazing how much credence people here put on Internet tweets or news stories. The people who know are under CDA and not talking, the people who are talking are guessing. In the end things will go the way that makes financial sense, and assuming the B1G stops at Oregon and Washington, who is more valuable than UConn? Arizona, Stanford, Colorado, maybe Cal ... and no one else. UConn is way more valuable than Utah or Arizona State (as the second teams from their states), especially if the B12 foresees NCAA basketball shifting toward the football model and revenue going to the revenue producers.

GoKU is the most plausible poster because the scenario he's been describing is business-rational. Let's just wait for all the behind-the-scenes work to get done, and it will probably be a good outcome for Huskies.

He’s also been quite predictive.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I view Cal like OSU and WSU. I can't imagine that it really brings value worth $30M to anyone.

OSU at least has a good football team. Years ago Cal mattered. So did Stanford. Neither has a student body that cares about football anymore. I'm sure some alumni do.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Probably less but the amount would still be greater to those schools then they receive now and most likely significantly greater. That’s the calculation Yormark is working with.

And the media entities working with him have calculated it’s more profitable for them as well and indicated this to him when they backed his vision.

The statement by C9C9 if he is a reliable source indicated we are considered the number 1 bb brand in the number 2 sport.

UConn is to basketball what Alabama is to football.

Yeah, but sadly college basketball is to college football what UAB is to Alabama.

 

[businesslawyer]

They are the flagship university for the largest state in the union, second best recruiting territory, and home to two top 10 markets. Im not saying they are royalty, but they’re not dregs either.

I fully agree with your sentence. I respectfully fully disagree with your second. I don't think they bring anything worthy of $30M a year.

 

[ihatepants]

Gonna disagree with you on the historically bad. We had a bad 10 years stretch, but we are hardly historically bad.

10 years is almost half the time that UConn had even been in FBS. They also set historical records (in 2018?) for how bad the defense was during that stretch as well as made people wonder if the 2021 team was the worst FBS team of all time.

 

[HuskiesFan1014]

Because our football program is historically bad. I had posted about UConn's plight outside of our UConn fan echo chamber and that was the gist of it. Our football team is considered "closer to FCS level than even middling G5 level" and that it is our school's fault for "being so bad in the 2010s that they were considering almost dropping football completely." One okayish year does not change that perception.

 

[Rufus]

All of those dramatic posts this morning that made this look like it might not happen was just dramatics. The PAC schools wanted to make it look like they did everything possible to stay together. Oregon and Washington turning down a B1G invite? That's laughable.