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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

Vowelguy said:
But the comparison is with ASU and Utah, in a league that will already have Arizona. Those two are more valuable than Cal & Stan?
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I don't think they want Pacific time zone unless it's a huge upgrade to football (and those two just went to the B1G).

Most likely scenario now is a split among Big XII Presidents and the AD on who the best 2 of the available 3 would be. We know they approved Arizona. There probably is not yet consensus on UConn, ASU and Utah. I'd imagine all three configurations might be favored by some schools. We know Yormark would want UConn, but he doesn't get a vote. However, he probably has a lot of credibility right now. Is it enough?
 
ctchamps said:
Doubt they take them now. They can get U of A without them most likely plus a better option.
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Unless it's the Arizona BOR who is only going to approve the deal if it's for both. Which has been my assumption all along
 
“Big 12 now evaluating their options” could be great news if they mean us (i.e. the pac schools have lost leverage to demand themselves in a package deal). It could also mean staying at 14 with Arizona or looking into Cal / Stanford, but there’s a pulse.
 
ToolzieFan said:
Did they actually invite Utah? It’s easy to miss what has actually happened amidst the rumors and hearsay.

Arizona State hasn’t been invited, have they?
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Swaim said they were invited according to his sources, and this was after he was pushing UConn all week and dousing interest in Utah. Plenty of others corroborated it.

It seems to me that Utah and Arizona St were non-committal as they attended the Pac12 meetings hoping to hold it all together.
 
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Now that the P12 dust has settled, it is time for BY to talk some sense into the B12 Presidents.

The latest B1G move just reinforces that is "war time" and it is going to be a battle for National relevance. There will be 3 power conferences, and the B12 is in a battle with the ACC to see who will win out. Knowing the landscape now, and assuming you already have Colorado and Arizona, do you really want to add repetitive states that you already own in Utah and Arizona State as you go to battle with the ACC...or do you begin the national battle with the ACC now. Not sure how realistic it would be...but adding UConn and Stanford (or Cal) would be a lot more strategic than adding ASU and UU. They lock themselves into the "Southwest Conference" with a couple of Midwest outliers and gives the upper hand to the ACC in the war.

Hopefully BY is able to convey what the future looks like to these B12 Presidents.

Not optimistic though.
 
Feels like it would take a serious bank shot for the Big XII to choose us to arrive at an even number. Not impossible, but very difficult, especially with the PAC-12 schools heading for the hills and willing to take whatever they can get.
 
CL82 said:
I really don't care if it is Miss Scarlet with the candlestick in the library, as long as we get in.
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The response was to make the point that if he has inside info he should be able to provide the other details which he has not thus he shouldn’t speak in absolutes
 
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UConnSportsGuy said:
Now that the P12 dust has settled, it is time for BY to talk some sense into the B12 Presidents.

The latest B1G move just reinforces that is "war time" and it is going to be a battle for National relevance. There will be 3 power conferences, and the B12 is in a battle with the ACC to see who will win out. Knowing the landscape now, and assuming you already have Colorado and Arizona, do you really want to add repetitive states that you already own in Utah and Arizona State as you go to battle with the ACC...or do you begin the national battle with the ACC now. Not sure how realistic it would be...but adding UConn and Stanford (or Cal) would be a lot more strategic than adding ASU and UU. They lock themselves into the "Southwest Conference" with a couple of Midwest outliers and gives the upper hand to the ACC in the war.

Hopefully BY is able to convey what the future looks like to these B12 Presidents.

Not optimistic though.
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I totally agree. This is a time for the ACC and the Big XII to think about the future. ND's nonsense partial membership in the ACC puts them in a weaker position. Identify the optimal number of member schools for long-term value, review available schools to hit that number, and start the courting process. We should be a solid target for either conference.
 
Khal Drogo said:
8-4 for UConn according to a post by C W Lambert
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The Big12 can really put the screws to Utah Arizona Arizona State at this point as they have pretty much no leverage in the situation. I could see them offering a way reduced share (one wed gladly accept).
 
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UConnSportsGuy said:
Now that the P12 dust has settled, it is time for BY to talk some sense into the B12 Presidents.

The latest B1G move just reinforces that is "war time" and it is going to be a battle for National relevance. There will be 3 power conferences, and the B12 is in a battle with the ACC to see who will win out. Knowing the landscape now, and assuming you already have Colorado and Arizona, do you really want to add repetitive states that you already own in Utah and Arizona State as you go to battle with the ACC...or do you begin the national battle with the ACC now. Not sure how realistic it would be...but adding UConn and Stanford (or Cal) would be a lot more strategic than adding ASU and UU. They lock themselves into the "Southwest Conference" with a couple of Midwest outliers and gives the upper hand to the ACC in the war.

Hopefully BY is able to convey what the future looks like to these B12 Presidents.

Not optimistic though.
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Doubling down our west may mean he’s conceding east coast to ACC. ACC should pounce now on eastern half of US options.

ADs will be happy with the money but UCF fan base can’t be excited to play the likes of Utah, ASU, Oklahoma St, etc.
 
Rewster said:
The response was to make the point that if he has inside info he should be able to provide the other details which he has not thus he shouldn’t speak in absolutes
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My comment was made to make the point that "proving or disapproving" GoKU's supposed sources is not particularly important. Worry less about "winning the Internet."
 
upstater said:
The interesting thing in all of this is that the small conferences right now get such a pittance from the tournament, because the NCAA takes such a huge amount. Each small conference gets one credit, and their teams don't advance far. A pittance.

What if all the non-P3 conferences told the P2/3 to off and hold your tournament with your 40-60 members. Good luck with that!
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Assuming they could do this without withdrawing from the NCAA the P-3 would respond "great, more money for us".
 
navery12 said:
Unless it's the Arizona BOR who is only going to approve the deal if it's for both. Which has been my assumption all along
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They have the option of playing hardball now particularly if Stanford indicates interest.
 
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