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ec33 said:
It was about the brands. How many FB and BB brands are larger than USC and UCLA?
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I'd rather grab schools in the fastest growing part of the country. The Carolinas, Georgia, and Florida where college sports are a religion and everyone is moving to. I assume there's nothing left in Texas that would be worthwhile to the B1G.
 
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ec33 said:
Why do AZ and ASU do that? They are going to jeopardize their future and cost their universities tens of millions of dollars for Utah?
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I saw one of the YouTube podcasts that indicated that AZ and AZ State share the same board of regents and that they are tied together. I'm not buying Utah. Not sure if both will be invited to the 12, but it seems as though they only want AZ. That seneriio might help us.

Who really knows?
 
Does anyone remember years ago on one of the prior versions of the Boneyard, there used to be Profanity Friday or something like that? I forget what it was called. We may need that for one day to get it all out.
 
ec33 said:
Why do AZ and ASU do that? They are going to jeopardize their future and cost their universities tens of millions of dollars for Utah?
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I think it is a smart play. There’s strength in numbers, and this helps the move from the superior academic conference to a conference with Baylor, UCF, TCU, BYU etc. none of which makes anyone on their campus feel good. Colorado will push for them too—among others. I guess it is a risk, but they likely have the support from current B12 members.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
I'd rather grab schools in the fastest growing part of the country. The Carolinas, Georgia, and Florida where college sports are a religion and everyone is moving to. I assume there's nothing left in Texas that would be worthwhile to the B1G.
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USC vs. Ohio State is not going to only be watched by southern California and Ohio. It will be watched nationally. That is why you grab them, even in gaining greater interest from California in the conference certainly helps (it is a nice market - the point is the entirety of the US is a larger market).

The ACC teams are not yet on the market, so it is hard to grab them.
 
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JeepCSC said:
The Pac will likely have a GOR too. If the Big wants Washington/Oregon, they are available. If they don’t want them now, I don’t know why those two should think they’d be more attractive in a decade with small paychecks.
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It's not that simple i don't believe. Networks don't want to keep paying big money for conferences to add teams. Paying a team 30 million in the Pac is different than paying that same team 60 million in the B1G.
 
I'm sure Brett Yormark and the B12 have a great reason for wanting to add 4 schools from the PAC conference. Maybe they think that the west coast time zone will help the Big 12 get better TV ratings. Or maybe they think that the PAC schools will bring in more money, even though their media rights deal is only worth $20 million per school.

Whatever the reason, I'm sure it's a great one. I mean, why else would they want to add 4 schools from a conference with very low viewership and a mediocre media rights deal? So, I'm sure that whatever B12 is thinking, it's definitely the right thing to do. And I'm sure that the Big 12 will be a much better conference after adding 4 schools from the currently powerful PAC. Head bang
 
Muddler said:
I think it is a smart play. There’s strength in numbers, and this helps the move from the superior academic conference to a conference with Baylor, UCF, TCU, BYU etc. none of which makes anyone on their campus feel good. Colorado will push for them too—among others. I guess it is a risk, but they likely have the support from current B12 members.
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Like academics has anything to do with this stuff.
 
Muddler said:
I think it is a smart play. There’s strength in numbers, and this helps the move from the superior academic conference to a conference with Baylor, UCF, TCU, BYU etc. none of which makes anyone on their campus feel good. Colorado will push for them too—among others. I guess it is a risk, but they likely have the support from current B12 members.
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Baylor, TCU, Colorado and BYU are rated higher academically than Arizona, ASU, Oregon, and Utah. The TCU campus is as nice as any in the country.
 
B1GEast said:
I saw one of the YouTube podcasts that indicated that AZ and AZ State share the same board of regents and that they are tied together. I'm not buying Utah. Not sure if both will be invited to the 12, but it seems as though they only want AZ. That seneriio might help us.

Who really knows?
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The President of ASU said they are most certainly not tied together and AZ can do whatever it wants. ASU also just made a big push into California and are worried the BIG 12 would kill that plan and reduce attendance.
 
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noeynox said:
It's not that simple i don't believe. Networks don't want to keep paying big money for conferences to add teams. Paying a team 30 million in the Pac is different than paying that same team 60 million in the B1G.
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It’s possible there is no appetite for Washington/Oregon in the BIG. Which means they should likely be first in line for the Big XII to call. Both should want to at least discuss things. I just can’t wrap my head around more smoke being around Utah than Washington.
 
JeepCSC said:
It’s possible there is no appetite for Washington/Oregon in the BIG. Which means they should likely be first in line for the Big XII to call. Both should want to at least discuss things. I just can’t wrap my head around more smoke being around Utah than Washington.
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My best guess, is those 2 schools were vocal against signing a GOR with the Pac. They gonna turn around and sign one with the Big12? Tough to see that. The Big12 would be silly to allow themselves to be used.
 
Stinger92860 said:
I'm sure Brett Yormark and the B12 have a great reason for wanting to add 4 schools from the PAC conference. Maybe they think that the west coast time zone will help the Big 12 get better TV ratings. Or maybe they think that the PAC schools will bring in more money, even though their media rights deal is only worth $20 million per school.

Whatever the reason, I'm sure it's a great one. I mean, why else would they want to add 4 schools from a conference with very low viewership and a mediocre media rights deal? So, I'm sure that whatever B12 is thinking, it's definitely the right thing to do. And I'm sure that the Big 12 will be a much better conference after adding 4 schools from the currently powerful PAC. Head bang
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All of conference realignment history has been about richer conferences raiding poorer conferences to maximize their profit. The BIG could maximize Rutgers in a way the BE could not. Would be the same thing happening here.

But also when all is said and done in 10 years or whatever, I think I’ll never quite get over Central Florida making it. What a strange world realignment has wrought.
 
noeynox said:
My best guess, is those 2 schools were vocal against signing a GOR with the Pac. They gonna turn around and sign one with the Big12? Tough to see that. The Big12 would be silly to allow themselves to be used.
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I thought all parties in the pac already agreed on a GOR to be signed at the same time as the tv contract.
 
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Utah Top Dog said:
Baylor, TCU, Colorado and BYU are rated higher academically than Arizona, ASU, Oregon, and Utah. The TCU campus is as nice as any in the country.
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Or B12 can invite UConn, and we will be the number one ranked school academically in the conference from day 1. UConn is also the #12 ranked overall sports among all colleges for 2022 to 2023. That's #2 in the B12 behind TCU, which is ranked #5.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Or B12 can invite UConn, and we will be the number one ranked school academically in the conference from day 1. UConn is also the #12 ranked overall sports among all colleges for 2022 to 2023. That's #2 in the B12 behind TCU, which is ranked #5.
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Add vicinity and our ownership of the largest tv market! You see what I am saying?
 
Big Loubowski said:
This is such bs, essentially saying look I know something is happening but I won’t say what it is. Bush league stuff.
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Didn't Thamel just tweet essentially the same thing? That Arizona, Utah, and Arizona State would act in unison or something like that. I think they both have scoops with a promise of not expressly stating them. Who knows.
 
MemphisBlues said:
Didn't Thamel just tweet essentially the same thing? That Arizona, Utah, and Arizona State would act in unison or something like that. I think they both have scoops with a promise of not expressly stating them. Who knows.
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He is doing everything he can to prevent UConn from getting into a P5. What do you expect from a fruit fan?
 
hoopsfan22 said:
I'd rather grab schools in the fastest growing part of the country. The Carolinas, Georgia, and Florida where college sports are a religion and everyone is moving to. I assume there's nothing left in Texas that would be worthwhile to the B1G.
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USC is one of the traditional football powers in an area where they’re a ton of Big10 alumni. If you can get a USC, you don’t turn that down. Games against Michigan, OSU and PSU would be ratings juggernauts. Even games against Wisconsin and Michigan State would be a ratings killer. These games pitting traditional powers is what drives ratings. USC is one of those teams.
 
I think the Big 12 would be really stupid to jump from 12 schools to 16 schools by adding 4 PAC schools.
The PAC 12 was falling behind in revenue, in part because they were a west coast conference and there weren't enough eyeballs watching.
Then 2 of the more valuable teams leave, and it's the PAC 10. Still a west coast conference with not enough eyeballs watching.

If the Big 12 is paying attention, they would realize that strictly expanding west is not the best option.
3 PAC schools + UConn makes a lot more sense than 4 PAC schools.
 
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