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UCLA leaving Berkeley hung out to dry really is a shocker. The top two most prestigious public U's in the country cutting ties. Then again, if the BiG is gonna invite two from LA it only makes sense to invite 2 from Frisco, and then some.

""The mystery to me is how the regents allowed UCLA to go and leave Cal ... wounded,” a source told ESPN. “This is not good for Cal or anybody else in the Pac-10.”
Wilner reported that Cal chancellor Carol Christ was “blindsided” by news of UCLA’s move, along with USC, to the Big Ten.
“As a result, the Bears could experience a revenue reduction of at least $10 million annually, thereby jeopardizing their ability to support 28 Olympic and women’s sports (none of them are profitable),” Wilner wrote."


"Without USC and UCLA providing a link to the massive Los Angeles media market, the Pac-12’s revenue could be chopped by 40-to-50 percent starting in the 2024-25 academic year.

As a result, the Bears could experience a revenue reduction of at least $10 million annually, thereby jeopardizing their ability to support 28 Olympic and women’s sports (none of them are profitable)."

 
UCLA leaving Berkeley hung out to dry really is a shocker. The top two most prestigious public U's in the country cutting ties. Then again, if the BiG is gonna invite two from LA it only makes sense to invite 2 from Frisco, and then some.

""The mystery to me is how the regents allowed UCLA to go and leave Cal ... wounded,” a source told ESPN. “This is not good for Cal or anybody else in the Pac-10.”
Wilner reported that Cal chancellor Carol Christ was “blindsided” by news of UCLA’s move, along with USC, to the Big Ten.
“As a result, the Bears could experience a revenue reduction of at least $10 million annually, thereby jeopardizing their ability to support 28 Olympic and women’s sports (none of them are profitable),” Wilner wrote."


"Without USC and UCLA providing a link to the massive Los Angeles media market, the Pac-12’s revenue could be chopped by 40-to-50 percent starting in the 2024-25 academic year.

As a result, the Bears could experience a revenue reduction of at least $10 million annually, thereby jeopardizing their ability to support 28 Olympic and women’s sports (none of them are profitable)."

If Cal cannot find a workable solution it will be the 2022 victim of realignment the way UConn was in 2012
 
It is one of the most one-sided contracts in media history. The ACC for some stupid, unknown reason thought it was brilliant to lock up their rights for 20 years. Epic fail.
There were 6 power conferences at one point. Two run the world. One is dead. One just lost their two most valuable assets and could be on the verge of dissolving. One has lost 50% of their original members and whose saving grace now is no one wants any of the remaining carcass.The last has lost only one member. The GOR and contract length is the only reason the ACC has not been picked apart. So in that respect it did it’s job.

The main issue with the ACC is it’s football powers forgot they were football powers. Swofford put together the best football conference ever if it was 1999. Alas it turned 2003 but quick. So we are left at the whims of ESPN wanting to keep one step ahead of Fox and doing a contract adjustment during one of the periodic look-ins, or Notre Dame deciding they really don’t like the B10/independence. The first is plausible if unlikely, the second is just unlikely. Good run, made it to #3 in a two-league sweepstakes, them’s the breaks.
 
There were 6 power conferences at one point. Two run the world. One is dead. One just lost their two most valuable assets and could be on the verge of dissolving. One has lost 50% of their original members and whose saving grace now is no one wants any of the remaining carcass.The last has lost only one member. The GOR and contract length is the only reason the ACC has not been picked apart. So in that respect it did it’s job.

The main issue with the ACC is it’s football powers forgot they were football powers. Swofford put together the best football conference ever if it was 1999. Alas it turned 2003 but quick. So we are left at the whims of ESPN wanting to keep one step ahead of Fox and doing a contract adjustment during one of the periodic look-ins, or Notre Dame deciding they really don’t like the B10/independence. The first is plausible if unlikely, the second is just unlikely. Good run, made it to #3 in a two-league sweepstakes, them’s the breaks.
There is no chance in hell ESPN will pay teams like Wake and BCU the same as Clemson going forward. I suspect in order to prevent B1G/Fox from raiding some of the top ACC top properties, ESPN will let them absorb into the SEC to up their payouts. ESPN will probably give rest of the leftovers an ok deal to keep them afloat until the next contract, or ESPN will work out some kind of ACC leftovers merger with PAC-12 leftovers to keep them away from FOX.
 
I do concede that's what best for our basketball program might not be what's best for the financials of the university.
Then why in heck would they do what is best for basketball if it is not best for the university?
 
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Cal got a huge stadium debt in addition to lack of funding for multiple Olympic sports. This is a huge hit for Cal. Honestly, B1G should just kill the PAC-12 and take Cal and Stanford if ND doesn't join. It will lock up CA while force a PAC-12 leftovers and ACC leftovers to merge with some PAC-12 programs going to the B12 and MWC.
 
UCLA leaving Berkeley hung out to dry really is a shocker. The top two most prestigious public U's in the country cutting ties. Then again, if the BiG is gonna invite two from LA it only makes sense to invite 2 from Frisco, and then some.

""The mystery to me is how the regents allowed UCLA to go and leave Cal ... wounded,” a source told ESPN. “This is not good for Cal or anybody else in the Pac-10.”
Wilner reported that Cal chancellor Carol Christ was “blindsided” by news of UCLA’s move, along with USC, to the Big Ten.
“As a result, the Bears could experience a revenue reduction of at least $10 million annually, thereby jeopardizing their ability to support 28 Olympic and women’s sports (none of them are profitable),” Wilner wrote."


"Without USC and UCLA providing a link to the massive Los Angeles media market, the Pac-12’s revenue could be chopped by 40-to-50 percent starting in the 2024-25 academic year.

As a result, the Bears could experience a revenue reduction of at least $10 million annually, thereby jeopardizing their ability to support 28 Olympic and women’s sports (none of them are profitable)."




I'm not saying it happens but it could well happen, especially if the Domers turn them down again. Just looking at the percentages of Big Ten alumni in the Bay Area tells you that it's a real possibility. Also assures the SEC won't enter that state, although that's a tertiary concern.
 
Then why in heck would they do what is best for basketball if it is not best for the university?
The points I’m making are not intended to suggest what UConn would do given the choice, it’s to counter the argument that leaving the Big East would be good for the bball program.

It’s pretty clear what the university would do, we’d go to higher revenue conference. Mora and DB are tipping their hand.
 
Connecticut governors making public statements about UConn in conference realignment is always so cringe.
UConn football official instagram account reposted the tweet. At this point I think it’s just wishful thinking and everyone attempting to will it to finally happen, but after nearly 20 years of this I’m not holding my breath.
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The problem is that no football conference is interested in a program with our history and lack of fan support. We’re not going to put up a few good seasons and suddenly have conferences begging us to join them when there’s a bad history behind those few good seasons. We actually had developed into a pretty good program during the expansion 10 years ago and we were passed over. That’s not suddenly going to change. Just look who the Bug XII turned to after they lost Texas and Oklahoma.
Remember, the B1G added rutgers. UCONN has many of the pieces which make it an attractive addition including state flagship, academics, power buget, market and multiple championships in multiple sports. The winning could and most certainly would come later just as it did when it joined the BCS Big East.
 
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Remember, the B1G added rutgers. UCONN has many of the pieces which make it an attractive addition including state flagship, academics, power buget, market and multiple championships in multiple sports. The winning could and most certainly would come later just as it did when it joined the BCS Big East.
Agreed, but I would also say history and success narratives are kind of fickle. If Mora comes in here and wins 4-5 games in year one, it will get attention and a positive feeling around the program. Fleeting, nebulous good feelings about football programs is the cornerstone of how realignment works
 
Agreed, but I would also say history and success narratives are kind of fickle. If Mora comes in here and wins 4-5 games in year one, it will get attention and a positive feeling around the program. Fleeting, nebulous good feelings about football programs is the cornerstone of how realignment works
FSU is in the realignment discussion without a recent winning record
 
UConn football official instagram account reposted the tweet. At this point I think it’s just wishful thinking and everyone attempting to will it to finally happen, but after nearly 20 years of this I’m not holding my breath.
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It’s pretty much the same energy as “Lil Jimmy would have made the Little League team if the other kids weren’t so afraid of how good he is.”
 
It’s pretty much the same energy as “Lil Jimmy would have made the Little League team if the other kids weren’t so afraid of how good he is.”
"...if the other kids' parents weren't so afraid of how good he is." parents looking out for their own kids' best interest is not unprecedented.
 
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Connecticut governors making public statements about UConn in conference realignment is always so cringe.
I don't mind him making a statement, but the one he made was just dumb. I would have liked to hear a statement of how he is in talks with ESPN regarding UConn's future.
 
I don't mind him making a statement, but the one he made was just dumb. I would have liked to hear a statement of how he is in talks with ESPN regarding UConn's future.
Or something like “the University of Connecticut competes against the very best institutions in the country both academically and athletically. We have a proud tradition of success both on the field and the basketball court and in the classroom. I fully expect that we will to continue to compete at the highest levels.”
 
Remember, the B1G added rutgers. UCONN has many of the pieces which make it an attractive addition including state flagship, academics, power buget, market and multiple championships in multiple sports. The winning could and most certainly would come later just as it did when it joined the BCS Big East.
You’re not being objective. Rutgers is the flag ship of a state with almost 10 million people vs UConn in a state with about 40% of NJ’s population. Rutgers is AAU and has a research budget that is much larger than UConn’s. The B1G is a research consortium as well as a sports conference, which is why they value AAU and research $$$. The B1G did a study 20 years ago of universities which are most similar to B1G universities. Rutgers was at the top of the list. They had been bird dogging Rutgers for a long time before they invited them. Twenty years ago we were just bringing our football into 1A and weren’t even in Big East Football yet. We were playing catch up and in many ways we still are.

With all that said, if the B1G were making its decision today, I don’t know that Rutgers would get an invite. The emphasis seems to have shifted from a school’s market to its brand. If a school can deliver eyeballs to regardless of its market size, that seems to be what matters most. Our football program doesn’t deliver that.
 
FSU is in the realignment discussion without a recent winning record
We have no idea who’s in the conversations that matter. Social media and sports writers can put out all kinds of speculation, but those aren’t the conversations that matter.
 
You’re not being objective. Rutgers is the flag ship of a state with almost 10 million people vs UConn in a state with about 40% of NJ’s population. Rutgers is AAU and has a research budget that is much larger than UConn’s. The B1G is a research consortium as well as a sports conference, which is why they value AAU and research $$$. The B1G did a study 20 years ago of universities which are most similar to B1G universities. Rutgers was at the top of the list. They had been bird dogging Rutgers for a long time before they invited them. Twenty years ago we were just bringing our football into 1A and weren’t even in Big East Football yet. We were playing catch up and in many ways we still are.

With all that said, if the B1G were making its decision today, I don’t know that Rutgers would get an invite. The emphasis seems to have shifted from a school’s market to its brand. If a school can deliver eyeballs to regardless of its market size, that seems to be what matters most. Our football program doesn’t deliver that.
Rutgers got the Big Ten invite solely because it allowed the Big Ten to charge a tier 1 premium for households within the NYCDMA. No one in the big 10 was interested in RU for its research prowess, or for “looking like a big 10 school“, which, having been on campus often, I can tell you it does not. As you allude to, the fact that New Jersey has the population density of New Delhi also enhanced its application. The Rutgers invite was a money grab pure and simple. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but let’s not pretend it was something else.
 
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Rutgers got the Big Ten invite solely because it allowed the Big Ten to charge a tier 1 premium for households within the NYCDMA. No one in the big 10 was interested in RU for its research prowess, or for “looking like a big 10 school“, which, having been on campus often, I can tell you it does not. As you allude to, the fact that New Jersey has the population density of New Delhi also enhanced its application. The Rutgers invite was a money grab pure and simple. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but let’s not pretend it was something else.

There are are reasons, but they really aren’t Rutgers related. The size of the state, NYC eyeballs and AAU status are most definitely factors, but so is the fact that they play right next door to NYC. There are so many alumni in the area. Michigan, OSU, PSU and Indiana all gave huge alumni bases in NYC. These are the donating kind of alumni. Being able to hold events before and after games is a huge benefit to these schools. And if you don’t think OSU and Michigan carry more weight than some of the other schools, you would be mistaken.
 
You’re not being objective. Rutgers is the flag ship of a state with almost 10 million people vs UConn in a state with about 40% of NJ’s population. Rutgers is AAU and has a research budget that is much larger than UConn’s. The B1G is a research consortium as well as a sports conference, which is why they value AAU and research $$$. The B1G did a study 20 years ago of universities which are most similar to B1G universities. Rutgers was at the top of the list. They had been bird dogging Rutgers for a long time before they invited them. Twenty years ago we were just bringing our football into 1A and weren’t even in Big East Football yet. We were playing catch up and in many ways we still are.

With all that said, if the B1G were making its decision today, I don’t know that Rutgers would get an invite. The emphasis seems to have shifted from a school’s market to its brand. If a school can deliver eyeballs to regardless of its market size, that seems to be what matters most. Our football program doesn’t deliver that.
My comment regarding rutty was addressing the level of football success, but I agree with your assessment. Still, UCONN checks all the other boxes and will B1G come begging for us? No. But UCONN is still worthy of a look by the big conferences.
 
Or something like “the University of Connecticut competes against the very best institutions in the country both academically and athletically. We have a proud tradition of success both on the field and the basketball court and in the classroom. I fully expect that we will to continue to compete at the highest levels.”
That sounds like Susan Herbst.
 
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