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Ian Fitzsimmons ‏@Ianfitzespn · 12h12 hours ago
TCU AD @_delconte when asked if he is a proponent of a Big 12 Title Game "I am a proponent of everyone just chilling out. It's been 1 year"

Ian Fitzsimmons ‏@Ianfitzespn · 12h12 hours ago
Del Conte on the future of the Big 12 "We are rock solid. I love the 10 school concept. I love the round robin in CFB and bball."
 
Fishy said:
There is a blindingly simple explanation - he has bad sources and lacks the candlepower to realize it.
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This is all true but I'll wager heavily that he has better sources and superior candlepower than any of our favorite hillbilly bloggers (Fish of West Virginia excepted).
 
jostar1 said:
Ian Fitzsimmons ‏@Ianfitzespn · 12h12 hours ago
TCU AD @_delconte when asked if he is a proponent of a Big 12 Title Game "I am a proponent of everyone just chilling out. It's been 1 year"

Ian Fitzsimmons ‏@Ianfitzespn · 12h12 hours ago
Del Conte on the future of the Big 12 "We are rock solid. I love the 10 school concept. I love the round robin in CFB and bball."
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Of course...he's finally reached their only hope of P5.
 
pj said:
This would be the best possible scenario for UConn. It would imply UConn and Kansas to the B1G for 16 ... Texas and Oklahoma State to the Pac? ... Oklahoma and who to the SEC -- maybe ESPN would orchestrate a swap, NC State to the SEC and West Virginia to the ACC, fixing the 4 NC school in the ACC problem?

Regardless, it seems too good to be true ...
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Oh its gotta happen soon pj...any movement and chaos is GOOD.
 
jostar1 said:
Ian Fitzsimmons ‏@Ianfitzespn · 12h12 hours ago
Del Conte on the future of the Big 12 "We are rock solid. I love the 10 school concept. I love the round robin in CFB and bball."
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When Oklahoma is unhappy, you are not rock solid. And Texas doesn't have your back, Mr. Del Conte.

Has anyone ever noticed that the most strident defenders of the status quo are the recently elevated?
 
Honestly a Big 12 dissolution is probably our best bet at this point. Worst case scenario, one or two B12 teams are left over and the AAC adds them. But chaos that does not involve the B12 pillaging two or four AAC teams not named UConn is a plus for us.
 
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jostar1 said:
Ian Fitzsimmons ‏@Ianfitzespn · 12h12 hours ago
TCU AD @_delconte when asked if he is a proponent of a Big 12 Title Game "I am a proponent of everyone just chilling out. It's been 1 year"

Ian Fitzsimmons ‏@Ianfitzespn · 12h12 hours ago
Del Conte on the future of the Big 12 "We are rock solid. I love the 10 school concept. I love the round robin in CFB and bball."
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And we know TCU's word is rock solid!
 
Fishy said:
When Oklahoma is unhappy, you are not rock solid. And Texas doesn't have your back, Mr. Del Conte.

Has anyone ever noticed that the most strident defenders of the status quo are the recently elevated?
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Louisville and Syracuse fans are the internet's leading experts on ACC culture. They took over for the BC fan.
 
Food for thought for the Cowherd bashers:

Take a listen. He hit 2 of 3 schools on the same day. Makes you think something happened with the UConn thing - or his source misunderstood "vetted" for "receiving an invite."

FYI - he was 2 months ahead of the Utah/Colorado public invites.

Listening to this is gonna hurt - what could have been - but maybe what still could be?

Here's the audio:

http://www.mwcconnection.com/2010/4...erd-says?_ga=1.12549876.1952189474.1435718199
 
To summarize:

Oklahoma's president is openly talking about expansion
TCU's AD is telling everyone to chill
B12 Commish says 3 1/3 schools want to expand
Texas ain't saying nothin'
Two separate ESPN commentators are openly talking about it.

I'd say it's safe to say something is happening. Will it come to fruition? Who knows?
 
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The Viking said:
Food for thought for the Cowherd bashers:

Take a listen. He hit 2 of 3 schools on the same day. Makes you think something happened with the UConn thing - or his source misunderstood "vetted" for "receiving an invite."

FYI - he was 2 months ahead of the Utah/Colorado public invites.

Listening to this is gonna hurt - what could have been - but maybe what still could be?

Here's the audio:

http://www.mwcconnection.com/2010/4...erd-says?_ga=1.12549876.1952189474.1435718199
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I moved this to it's own thread so if anyone wants to comment on it - send it over there. Or don't. This isn't Russia. Is this Russia, Danny?
 
Well, the good news is I have Thursday and Friday off from work, so tomorrow is basically useless as everyone is going to be BS'ing about what they are doing for the 4th.

I'll have all day to enjoy this thread.
 
UConn Dan said:
Oh that's cowherd. Then def not happening. I remember before big ten picked Nebraska he said he knew for a fact that the big ten was taking UConn as the 12th team.
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Maybe we were in the discussion and that's why he misread the signals.
 
Does anyone really think Boren made this noise because he desperately wants to add Cincy, Memphis, or UCF? Please. His main goal is to further fragment an already fragmented Big12. OU wants out. OU doesn't want to play Memphis on a Sat in October. I think what Cowherd said makes perfect sense, at least from an OU standpoint. Like A&M, I think OU has had it with Texas and wants to stop playing under their shadow(but will gladly play them annually at the Texas state fair.) Whats the best way to do this? Bring up expansion, which Texas doesn't want. Better yet, bring it up while mentioning schools that add no additional value whatsoever to the LHN.
 
CL82 said:
Maybe we were in the discussion and that's why he misread the signals.
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I think that could be right.....UConn was in the discussion....and the Huskies were also right there with the ACC as well.

My gut feeling is that some ACC and Big Ten Presidents wanted UConn but got out maneuvered/voted.
 
Hoophound said:
I just find it hard to believe ESPN lets guys spout nonsense like that with garbage sources, it kills credibility. Journalism is dead I guess.

I minored in Technical Writing and took quite a few journalism courses in college. One thing I always remember is the constant harping on sources and quality of sources and triple checking. The new world of communication and journalism is hard for me to grasp...and I'm still pretty young.
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Just remember espn is in the entertainment business, not the news business.
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
Honestly a Big 12 dissolution is probably our best bet at this point. Worst case scenario, one or two B12 teams are left over and the AAC adds them. But chaos that does not involve the B12 pillaging two or four AAC teams not named UConn is a plus for us.
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We would have to get very, very lucky. I don't see it given our history. UConn needs five conferences going to 16. In that scenario, it's hard for us to lose. Once you are down to four conferences, we're in trouble.

You are right that in the four conference world, the AAC probably gets stronger, but that's hardly the end result we want.
Worst case scenario is that the B12 expands and pillages the AAC, but I don't think UConn is in the AAC long in that scenario.
 
Big 12 dissolves with 4 to the Pac 12, 2 to each of the B1G, ACC, SEC. Game over.
I think the Big 12 expands and will somehow get Florida State to come over. It has to expand, move east, and get into Florida.
How many conferences can say they have more than 1 school in both Florida and Texas? Only 2.
 
HuskyHawk said:
We would have to get very, very lucky. I don't see it given our history. UConn needs five conferences going to 16. In that scenario, it's hard for us to lose. Once you are down to four conferences, we're in trouble.

You are right that in the four conference world, the AAC probably gets stronger, but that's hardly the end result we want.
Worst case scenario is that the B12 expands and pillages the AAC, but I don't think UConn is in the AAC long in that scenario.
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What about 4 conferences going to 16 or 20 - ACC (16), B1G (20), SEC (20), PAC (16)? That's 72 slots. Right now, the P5 have 65 programs.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
What about 4 conferences going to 16 or 20 - ACC (16), B1G (20), SEC (20), PAC (16)? That's 72 slots. Right now, the P5 have 65 programs.
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That could work. But 4 x 16 doesn't work. Too many on the sidelines and live content too valuable.

I hope we all remember that right before the Big East imploded, everyone thought the Big XII was about to dissolve. I think a few things are becoming more clear and putting the lie to the old value metrics. (1) it's obvious that the conference makes the school as much as the other way around. Rutgers in the B1G is worth more. Louisville in the ACC is worth more. TCU in the Big XII is worth more. UConn, elsewhere is worth more. The same is true of Nevada, Colorado State, etc. Valuing any G5 school as it exists in a G5 conference is faulty. (2) Football drove the bus. Football isn't driving the bus now. Cable networks, media markets and full year, 24 x 7 content are driving the bus. The conferences and media partners are realizing that they undervalued basketball, hockey, baseball etc. UConn absolutely clobbers every other G5 school on this measure. It clobbers many P5 schools on this basis.
 
UCONN13KC said:
Big 12 dissolves with 4 to the Pac 12, 2 to each of the B1G, ACC, SEC. Game over.
I think the Big 12 expands and will somehow get Florida State to come over. It has to expand, move east, and get into Florida.
How many conferences can say they have more than 1 school in both Florida and Texas? Only 2.
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I think the inaction by the B12 over the past 12 months to add schools speaks volumes to the internal doubt harbored by the cornerstone schools about the long run of the conference. Just like when Syracuse and Pitt voted no on the final BE ESPN contract, voting no on expansion to me means they are thinking about something else in the long run.
 
Tuberville talked about the possibility of a new conference. I wonder if he thinks that the leftovers from the Big12 might join up with the AAC:

Tuberville also said on Sirius XM that more changes are in store for college football, including stipends and perhaps another round of realignment.

“I think some teams move in and out of the conference to put themselves in a better situation,” Tuberville said. “I think there possibly might be another conference that might be started that will give a chance for another playoff possibility."

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...berville-big-12-expansion-cincinnati-bearcats
 
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jostar1 said:
Tuberville talked about the possibility of a new conference. I wonder if he thinks that the leftovers from the Big12 might join up with the AAC:

Tuberville also said on Sirius XM that more changes are in store for college football, including stipends and perhaps another round of realignment.

“I think some teams move in and out of the conference to put themselves in a better situation,” Tuberville said. “I think there possibly might be another conference that might be started that will give a chance for another playoff possibility."

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...berville-big-12-expansion-cincinnati-bearcats
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This sounds like what some of us here have been bandying about. Blow up the AAC, and merger the valuable teams from the MWC, AAC and BYI. Bye bye Temple, Tulsa, Tulane.
 
To avoid lawsuits and capture all available TV money, they will need to bring some of the G5 in, but the P5 won't take all of them. The B12 is unstable and destined to die. They need to expand the playoffs to make the major conferences happy. I think a P5 with the B12 replaced by a "best of the rest" in a 5 x 14-16 schools arrangement, and 8 team playoff with 5 autobids, would get all the TV value out of college sports.
 
UCONN13KC said:
Big 12 dissolves with 4 to the Pac 12, 2 to each of the B1G, ACC, SEC. Game over.
I think the Big 12 expands and will somehow get Florida State to come over. It has to expand, move east, and get into Florida.
How many conferences can say they have more than 1 school in both Florida and Texas? Only 2.
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Does that make the AAC a power conference?
 
If college FB wants to do it right they have to scrap the traditional conferences and recreate 4, 5 or 6 conferences each of which encompass 2-3 "regions". The new conferences then bargain collectively. Basketball wouldn't be impacted (in theory) because thw BE, A-10, etc would function as normal and feed into the NCAA tourney.
 
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