Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Exit 4]

UNC is in the unique position in that it provides value to both the SEC and the B1G. That is a very short list of schools to begin with.

I don't see a clear path forward for UNC except to join either the SEC or the B1G. But they do have the choice between the two. Maybe that move doesn't happen until the end of the GOR, but UNC has to pick one or the other or risk being left behind.

Seems this raging question behind closed doors this winter is whether to end the ACC GOR now or hold it together through the end, but with the understanding there will be a crash landing in the early 2030s. Pro now: Conduct a "managed" breakup while the left behind ACC schools have some leverage. Pro later: F- it, its not possible to have controlled break up now...we will fully disintegrate. Better to fight and cling to what we have and cope with the endless in fighting.

The factions in this discussion have to be some of the most duplicitous of all time. Everyone is a friend and enemy.

I have no idea where this lands. In late fall I was hearing ESPN was certainly going to give the ACC a media deal for the balance of the GOR that was a little above the B12 numbers.....but maybe ESPN cannot manage to get this bunch to sit down and listen. The FSU/Clemson lawsuits maybe over, the tension is certainly not.

 

[Fishy]

Seems this raging question behind closed doors this winter is whether to end the ACC GOR now or hold it together through the end, but with the understanding there will be a crash landing in the early 2030s. Pro now: Conduct a "managed" breakup while the left behind ACC schools have some leverage. Pro later: F- it, its not possible to have controlled break up now...we will fully disintegrate. Better to fight and cling to what we have and cope with the endless in fighting.

The factions in this discussion have to be some of the most duplicitous of all time. Everyone is a friend and enemy.

I have no idea where this lands. In late fall I was hearing ESPN was certainly going to give the ACC a media deal for the balance of the GOR that was a little above the B12 numbers.....but maybe ESPN cannot manage to get this bunch to sit down and listen. The FSU/Clemson lawsuits maybe over, the tension is certainly not.

There’s no raging question. It’s fan fiction.

 

[Rdkid]

UNC likely feels comfortable given its market and brand in having a P2 seat when it all goes down. They are not counting on the kindness of strangers tho, a lesson many have learned the hard way. Money talks in terms of demonstrated commitment. I think they are a B10 match.

 

[Exit 4]

There’s no raging question. It’s fan fiction.

Then we will see that grand acc espn media extension announced in q2 with great harmony

 

[Rdkid]

The chancellor is not going to have the first line of his obit read “the guy who let UNC basketball die”, especially since he’s a Dookie.

 

[Fishy]

Then we will see that grand acc espn media extension announced in q2 with great harmony

The grant of rights extends through 2036 because of the ACC Network.

The look in on the media rights contract is not going to be the watershed moment people have convinced themselves it will be.

 

[Exit 4]

The grant of rights extends through 2036 because of the ACC Network.

The look in on the media rights contract is not going to be the watershed moment people have convinced themselves it will be.

We'll see. Only a few months to go.

 

[CL82]

They are met with jeers from me too. It's because the point he's making is weird.

Taylor Swift is vastly more popular than our national electricity grid. If one of these two things vanished tomorrow, there'd be different consequences.

Sure, we'd be able to recover from the loss of our electrical grid.

 

[ramses 2.0]

At every public research institution, international students tend to come for engineering and STEM , and they maninly come from China and India. That's how it used to be. Things are going to change radically in the next 4 yrs. I don't think they know anything at all about football. Honestly.

The President was on solid ground when he said, "Sports are the front porch." Especially for an American audience. But when he says the internationals aren't coming for political science... I don't know. I would just laugh in his face. Mind you, he's not an academic, he's a political appointee. So...

Robert's is referring to the brand identity built mostly by the basketball program specifically as it relates to MJ who is still one the most recognizable sports figures in the world. So you will see many around the world rocking the baby blue interlocking NC logo just because they associate it with him

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Sure, we'd be able to recover from the loss of our electrical grid.

Maybe then the government would allow me to put a nuclear reactor in my backyard so I won't have to pay for electricity.

 

[CL82]

Maybe then the government would allow me to put a nuclear reactor in my backyard so I won't have to pay for electricity.

Actually, if people are genuinely concerned about carbon emissions from the generation of electricity, nuclear power plants are the clear answer.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[upstater]

Robert's is referring to the brand identity built mostly by the basketball program specifically as it relates to MJ who is still one the most recognizable sports figures in the world. So you will see many around the world rocking the baby blue interlocking NC logo just because they associate it with him

It's a nice baby blue. Looks nice on shirts. But those people have no idea about your football. You're just fooling yourself if you think building UNC football is a message to the world.

 

[Husky25]

Robert's is referring to the brand identity built mostly by the basketball program specifically as it relates to MJ who is still one the most recognizable sports figures in the world. So you will see many around the world rocking the baby blue interlocking NC logo just because they associate it with him

I think that is a stretch. It's been nearly 41 years since Jordan has been associated with UNC and the "Air Jordan" brand has been associated with Nike ever since. The "dunk" insignia can be put on any color apparel or merchandise. I venture a guess that more people around the world associate Jordan with the Chicago Bulls than Carolina Tar Heels.

 

[Hoophound]

I think that is a stretch. It's been nearly 41 years since Jordan has been associated with UNC and the "Air Jordan" brand has been associated with Nike ever since. The "dunk" insignia can be put on any color apparel or merchandise. I venture a guess that more people around the world associate Jordan with the Chicago Bulls than Carolina Tar Heels.

I don’t associate Air Jordan with Carolina at all. When I think Nike anything, I think Oregon.

 

[ramses 2.0]

It's a nice baby blue. Looks nice on shirts. But those people have no idea about your football. You're just fooling yourself if you think building UNC football is a message to the world.

I know that & more importantly Roberts knows that. The point he's attempting to make is that survival of 26 non revenue sports depends on a larger investment in football.

 

[ramses 2.0]

I think that is a stretch. It's been nearly 41 years since Jordan has been associated with UNC and the "Air Jordan" brand has been associated with Nike ever since. The "dunk" insignia can be put on any color apparel or merchandise. I venture a guess that more people around the world associate Jordan with the Chicago Bulls than Carolina Tar Heels.

I'm not saying they don't, what I'm pointing out is most people now MJ & it's not unusual for global pop cultural icons like Jay Z to wear his UNC jersey. I have personally had people mention his name the times I have been at airports in foreign countries.

 

[Hondo 77]

The grant of rights extends through 2036 because of the ACC Network.

The look in on the media rights contract is not going to be the watershed moment people have convinced themselves it will be.

Exactly.

 

[Exit 4]

@Fishy - you win...come spike the football

 

[Drew]

 

[Exit 4]

So funny when ESPN insiders are reporting on ESPN media contracts

 

[Chin Diesel]

Lol. So many schools in ACC realize a cut in their ACC revenus beats having to go in to the market alone to find their value.

"ACC sources suggested a vote to support the new revenue distribution plan may not be unanimous, but one conference administrator said a cut in distribution would likely be worthwhile if it meant stability in the coming years as college athletics works its way through a volatile series of existential shifts in its amateurism model. Multiple administrators who spoke with ESPN noted the severe impact that the collapse of the Pac-12 had on Oregon State and Washington State, and the observably diminished values of those programs has helped spark interest in negotiating a settlement."

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Booooooooo

 

[LetsGoUC]

I think if this could be good in the sense that the Big 12 wont take any ACC schools now since they'll stay together and would look again towards us

 

[Husky25]

I'm not saying they don't, what I'm pointing out is most people now MJ & it's not unusual for global pop cultural icons like Jay Z to wear his UNC jersey. I have personally had people mention his name the times I have been at airports in foreign countries.

And I'm say those are fairly large leaps. Anecdotes don't typically extrapolate too far over a general population. There are exceptions obviously, but for the most part Europeans are confused by America's college athletics obsession.